Something I Saw In The Park

[rosco rathbone]

*fix your pants* at the adorable soon to be teen-aged boychild who's pants are always falling down...I'm told "because they are s'posed ta Ma" All I have to do is think it and even if he is feet from me he hears my mind speaking and fixes them. lol

Well not really but you know what i mean uncle rosco.

Want some zucchini bread?

Could be worse...he could be doing that thing where the pants are worn riding at the bottom edge of the asscheeks, over boxer shorts. I still don't know how they walk in that style. I'm always looking for some kind of secret homeboy garter belt that holds them up.

*eats zuchini bread

 

[Kajira Callista]

Could be worse...he could be doing that thing where the pants are worn riding at the bottom edge of the asscheeks, over boxer shorts. I still don't know how they walk in that style. I'm always looking for some kind of secret homeboy garter belt that holds them up.

*eats zuchini bread

there is one. you are just lookin in the wrong place uncle rosco

 

[subbie_333]

Sitting on a park bench
eyeing little girls with bad intent.
Snot running down his nose
greasy fingers smearing shabby clothes.
Drying in the cold sun
Watching as the frilly panties run.
Feeling like a dead duck
spitting out pieces of his broken luck.

Sun streaking cold
an old man wandering lonely.
Taking time
the only way he knows.
Leg hurting bad,
as he bends to pick a dog-end
he goes down to the bog
and warms his feet.

Feeling alone
the army's up the rode
salvation à la mode and
a cup of tea.
Aqualung my friend
don't start away uneasy
you poor old sod, you see, it's only me.
Do you still remember
December's foggy freeze
when the ice that
clings on to your beard is
screaming agony.
And you snatch your rattling last breaths
with deep-sea-diver sounds,
and the flowers bloom like
madness in the spring.

 

[rosco rathbone]

Sitting on a park bench
eyeing little girls with bad intent.
Snot running down his nose
greasy fingers smearing shabby clothes.
Drying in the cold sun
Watching as the frilly panties run.
Feeling like a dead duck
spitting out pieces of his broken luck.

Sun streaking cold
an old man wandering lonely.
Taking time
the only way he knows.
Leg hurting bad,
as he bends to pick a dog-end
he goes down to the bog
and warms his feet.

Feeling alone
the army's up the rode
salvation à la mode and
a cup of tea.
Aqualung my friend
don't start away uneasy
you poor old sod, you see, it's only me.
Do you still remember
December's foggy freeze
when the ice that
clings on to your beard is
screaming agony.
And you snatch your rattling last breaths
with deep-sea-diver sounds,
and the flowers bloom like
madness in the spring.

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[Netzach]

there is one. you are just lookin in the wrong place uncle rosco

It's can't just be that. I saw the most dazzling display of this ever on a young man while we were driving home from the Grocery. They clung up beneath his buttcheeks in an impossible anti-gravity act.

 

[greeneyed_Lady]

And what did you learn??

 

[Netzach]

And what did you learn??

That there has got to be some velcro or something.

 

[Kajira Callista]

That there has got to be some velcro or something.

Hmmm now to just gain enough nerve to walk up to a low pant wearing guy and ask to see his velcro

 

[midwestyankee]

Hmmm now to just gain enough nerve to walk up to a low pant wearing guy and ask to see his velcro

Some of the rest of us have a velcro too, yanno. (so that's what they're calling it now?)

 

[chauderlos]

I've been a daycare provider and I have two kids in my own.

You can kick and starve and ignore a dog, too. And that dog will whimper and whine and fall into ecstatic, exhausted happiness when you deign to feed it or pay it some attention. Dogs will adore you for mistreating them.

I have dogs too. Not the way I'd choose to run a house or a life.

Strong, loving father figures have open ears as well as open mouths.

And open arms, too.

 

[Kajira Callista]

Some of the rest of us have a velcro too, yanno. (so that's what they're calling it now?)

*bats lashes* maybe.

 

[kinkyknickers]

I'd say this method would work with me. Getting into confrontation with me never goes well. I'm best left to mull it over in my own head and like to be left alone. Eventually things getted worked out and go back to normal. Time is on my side (yes it is).

 

[Homburg]

I am thinking about adding "ignoring" to my list of topics that are big-time inciters. Y'know, along with brown, beastiality, etc. Precious little gets knickers in a wad like ignoring.

Personally, I'd bet good money that the old man listened to her inside voice, and she stopped using it when she did not get her way. You'll note that RR's story said nothing about what occurred prior to the fake crying. Once the child has entered into fake crying, ignoring the immature chit may well be your best option. The fact that old gent knew when to hug shows that he cares, and knows a damned sight more about kids than most of us do I'd warrant.

Great anecdote, RR

 

[Essene]

I am thinking about adding "ignoring" to my list of topics that are big-time inciters. Y'know, along with brown, beastiality, etc. Precious little gets knickers in a wad like ignoring.

Personally, I'd bet good money that the old man listened to her inside voice, and she stopped using it when she did not get her way. You'll note that RR's story said nothing about what occurred prior to the fake crying. Once the child has entered into fake crying, ignoring the immature chit may well be your best option. The fact that old gent knew when to hug shows that he cares, and knows a damned sight more about kids than most of us do I'd warrant.

Great anecdote, RR

I agree.

I was ignored as a kid, and that does not strike me as ignoring. I'll wager that she didn't get her way, and that she was being dramatic...

I know my fellow moms think I'm strict- but in a good way. They come to me for advice on how to handle certain things - advice on how to be more consistent...

When my little one does something that they are not supposed to do, they are given two warnings. One time tells them that what they are doing is unacceptable. The second time warns them of getting a "time out". The third time they get a time out. While they are on their way to the time out we discuss why it is that they are getting a time out.

Sometimes they just pout, and other times they have a full blown hissy. I don't bat an eye. I just stay firm, and if they happen to throw anything around, they'll be expected to pick it up when they're done doing whatever it is that they need to do.

I strongly reward good behaviour. They're a good kid, and they don't get many time outs. Other moms I know do a lot of talking, but are not as consistant, and they seem to lose control of the kid.

Mine knows I mean business. We have a great relationship. They're well behaved, but if someone walked into me giving them a time out, and being firm, they might think I'm being unneccessarily harsh.

 

[graceanne]

Partly playing devils advocate here, but . . .

Sometimes you can do everything right (ask what's wrong, listen, etc) and sometimes they just need to cry it out.

No, you can't hit your friends (or throw sand, or take things from people, etc), you will sit here with me because you won't stop, and I don't care if that upsets your feeling. Doesn't mean I don't love you, and if you want to snuggle that's fine, too. Then let them do what they need to do. Normally fake crying like that is just an attempt at manipulation, anyway. When my kids fake cry I put them in their room until they're done. (Literally - not a time limit, they know to come out when they're done.)

From the adult pov - depends on the type of D/s relationship you have. No, it wouldn't work for me, because treating me like a child just pisses me off. Doesn't make it NOT ok to have a relationship like that. They're not called Daddy Dom's for nothing.

 

[Harmony_1985]

I am thinking about adding "ignoring" to my list of topics that are big-time inciters. Y'know, along with brown, beastiality, etc. Precious little gets knickers in a wad like ignoring.

Personally, I'd bet good money that the old man listened to her inside voice, and she stopped using it when she did not get her way. You'll note that RR's story said nothing about what occurred prior to the fake crying. Once the child has entered into fake crying, ignoring the immature chit may well be your best option. The fact that old gent knew when to hug shows that he cares, and knows a damned sight more about kids than most of us do I'd warrant.

Great anecdote, RR

If it was fake crying, its a temper tantrum and the best way to deal with it is to ignore it. Children will sit there and "whine" for about 5 minutes, maybe longer dependant on their age, and get it out of their system. Once they realise it's not getting them their own way, they stop and I just go "Are you done now?" and they go back to the way they were before it occured.

It's attention seeking to try and get what they want, so ignoring the action is often the swiftest way to deal with it without giving in to them.

 

[graceanne]

I am thinking about adding "ignoring" to my list of topics that are big-time inciters. Y'know, along with brown, beastiality, etc. Precious little gets knickers in a wad like ignoring.

Personally, I'd bet good money that the old man listened to her inside voice, and she stopped using it when she did not get her way. You'll note that RR's story said nothing about what occurred prior to the fake crying. Once the child has entered into fake crying, ignoring the immature chit may well be your best option. The fact that old gent knew when to hug shows that he cares, and knows a damned sight more about kids than most of us do I'd warrant.

Great anecdote, RR

Pretty much my feeling on the matter. Fake crying, no matter the reason, should not be responded to. All you're doing is teaching the child to manipulate.

 

[graceanne]

If it was fake crying, its a temper tantrum and the best way to deal with it is to ignore it. Children will sit there and "whine" for about 5 minutes, maybe longer dependant on their age, and get it out of their system. Once they realise it's not getting them their own way, they stop and I just go "Are you done now?" and they go back to the way they were before it occured.

It's attention seeking to try and get what they want, so ignoring the action is often the swiftest way to deal with it without giving in to them.

I remember once my middle girl came to me, in fake tears, whining, and said 'I CAN'T GET MY BED MADE!' *sniffsnivelwhine*

I didn't even look up from the computer and said 'wow that sucks.'

There was silence for a few second where you could almost HEAR her thinking, and then in a perfectly reasonable and calm voice she said 'mommy? will you help me make my bed.' My immediate response was 'yes. hold on a second.'

Ignoring bad behavior works.

 

[Harmony_1985]

Pretty much my feeling on the matter. Fake crying, no matter the reason, should not be responded to. All you're doing is teaching the child to manipulate.

Yep and if you let a child wrap you around their finger from a young age, you're screwed later in life.

 

[graceanne]

USE YOUR WORDS.

I tell my kids to 'use your big boy/girl words'. Once I was on the phone with a social worker (concerning something else - not my kids) and I said this to my daughter was in a melt down, and she thought it was the coolest way of telling a child not to whine. She just RAVED about it.

I was like 'oh, um, that's what my mom used to say to my littlest sister.'

 

[Recidiva]

I remember once my middle girl came to me, in fake tears, whining, and said 'I CAN'T GET MY BED MADE!' *sniffsnivelwhine*

I didn't even look up from the computer and said 'wow that sucks.'

There was silence for a few second where you could almost HEAR her thinking, and then in a perfectly reasonable and calm voice she said 'mommy? will you help me make my bed.' My immediate response was 'yes. hold on a second.'

Ignoring bad behavior works.

If a child throws a tantrum, I'm willing to listen up to that point and when someone calms down. I won't listen in the middle. I won't listen if I'm being manipulated, I'll point out I don't like whining, selfishness or the idea that the world needs to be fair and I have to make it that way. My kids know life's tough and they have to get strong to deal with it, and that I work hard and don't complain and I expect the same. I mean, sure, bitch after your work is done and I'll sympathize that homework sucks, but I won't sympathize with bitching and not doing it.

Fortunately being a relative hard ass about it made my kids able to express themselves well and calmly, because I won't listen to someone otherwise. I tell them if they're too upset to speak clearly they're too upset to think clearly, so they should go spend some time alone until they calm down.

I'm not sure my kids would have caught on as to why exactly I ignored this bit of "bad behavior" (crying, upset, selfish) and comforted another bit of "bad behavior" (crying, upset, in pain) without explaining it over and over and sticking to that standard.

Works with grownups too.

 

[curiousalice]

9 times out of 10, if I snap at someone over something little (I throw a fit in other words) it's because something else is bothering me, and the best way to get me to talk about what's bothering me is to let me be mad for a while and then give me a hug. I'm 20 years old and I STILL need hugs. Your story about the little girl sounds like a typical action for me, except the things that upset me now are more important that being punished for not playing nicely. Either way though, I know that when I throw a fit about something, I can be really upset over something not even related, but I can't get it out until I've had a hug.

As for ignoring, I agree with everyone here. Ignoring bad behavior and being fair/consistant is the best way to deal with it. My daughter isn't quite able to speak to me in words beyond simple things, but she knows that I do not respond to temper tantrums. When she gets mad and throws a temper tantrum at home, I just leave the room or put her in her room. When she calms down again, we try it again. For example, she wants her juice but refuses to say "juice", and I know she can, so I insist on it and she gets mad instead. I set her down in her room to cry and she comes to me a few minutes later and says "juice" and she gets her juice.

As a side note: There is a definite difference between an "I'm mad" cry and an "I'm hurt" cry.

 

[Harmony_1985]

As a side note: There is a definite difference between an "I'm mad" cry and an "I'm hurt" cry.

There is, and you can always tell the difference between the 2.

 

[cherokee_dove]

Of course if you'd asked her why she was crying and listened to the answer rather than ignored her, maybe you could avoid the acting out.

I hate adults that ignore kids like that.

You can't take care of bunches of kids that way. Only one or two. Get a bunch and that theory goes to hell fast.

Recidiva, from what i read of Roscos opening post; Rosco had just came in to the park, when he saw this incident.

Who's to say the grandfather figure hadn't already put the little girl on "time out" for something she did while playing with the other children.

And her being the "Oh so sweet lil girl" thought that she could get off "time out" if she started doing the fake crying and whining? And the grandfather figure just knew she was "playing up the audience", and he wasn't going to give up on being the rules maker?

And once the little girl finally stopped, knowing that the "whining rage" of a temper tantrum wasn't going to get her, her own way; she decided to crawl into grandfather figures lap. And fall asleep from exhaustion from the temper tantrum. Like a good lil girl. Instead of a brat.

To be honest, i use to pull the same tricks on my dad; and he would just say "T, in ain't gonna getcha nowhere; so ya might as well stop now and act your age".

 

[Sir_Winston54]

... My kids know life's tough and they have to get strong to deal with it ...

Instant flashback to Johnny Cash and "A Boy Named Sue."