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[midwestyankee]

Hey, where've you been?

Since you used the word capital (and used it correctly), I guess I'll mention that the improper use of capital/capitol really bugs me. I live near a state capitol, and the frequency of misuse of these words is incredible.

One could raise a good deal of capital with fines on this little bit of incorrect usage.

 

[silverwhisper]

why, i think that's a capitol idea! :>

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[phoenix1224]

Wow!

I'm gone for less than 24 hours and this thread is already on page three. It's kind of amazing for a thread that was started because, while browsing through the treads, I noticed that the same people were spelling the same words wrong over and over again.

Well, I found another one while reading through some of the other threads...


Naked... NOT nakked, nekkid, etc.

 

[phoenix1224]

Well, I'll be damned! Does the porn industry know this? *giggle*
I don't think I've ever seen it spelled the correct way, until now. I think people assume the incorrect way is right due to the fact that animals are called beasts not bests. Wow! Ya learn something new every day.

A little historical factoid: Originally, the word bestiality was used to describe not ONLY sex with animals, but ALL forms of "perverse" sexual acts... Including anal sex, bondage, and even any position that wasn't the missionary position...


Hey... That reminds me of another one...

Pervert... NOT prevert.

 

[Eilan]

Naked... NOT nakked, nekkid, etc.

I can't speak for others, but I use "nekkid" on purpose. There's a difference between "naked" and "nekkid."

Naked means "without clothes."

Nekkid means "without clothes and up to something."

 

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[phoenix1224]

I can't speak for others, but I use "nekkid" on purpose. There's a difference between "naked" and "nekkid."

Naked means "without clothes."

Nekkid means "without clothes and up to something."

I understand that, but there ARE some people that actually think that it's spelled that way.

Probably because of people like you using it for "naughty" purposes...

 

[shannon_est]

Did I imagine this?

When I was younger, I gave my dad a card of some sort and wrote in it "Congratulations Daddy!" He tried correcting me and telling me that it was "congradulations." I fought with him and told him why would people shorten it to "congrats" if there was a 'D' in the word. I went to the dictionary to prove who was right. I seem to remember both versions being listed, though it said the version with 'T' was the more popular version. I remember, because I was mad as hell that I couldn't prove him wrong. Did I imagine this? Now the word congradulations is no where to be found. Does this mean all my childhood memories are false? I wish I had an older version of a dictionary (20+ years) just too see if I'm losing my mind or not.

 

[EJFan]

Naked means "without clothes."

Nekkid means "without clothes and up to something."

true.

down here it's a little different... "naked" is a word used by the culturally elite... "nekkid" means "i'm not wearing clothes and i'm a redneck"... i use the latter to poke fun at the rednecks. in fact, some (not all, but some) of my misspellings and erroneous grammar is done for this exact reason.

sometimes i try to break the communication barrier down a little and i'll type things sort of phonetically with the hope that it's read that way and it's closer to an actual spoken conversation rather than just reading. i have no clue if it works or not but i do it.

i remember many, many, many months ago, someone went on a tirade about using IM abbreviations in the forum. i understand the frustration but i see words as symbols of communication. if the point gets across, that's the most important thing. in my mind, if we examine language over the centuries, it's clearly in constant flux... rules of grammar and spelling are far from static. something may be spelled or written correctly by our present set of rules but in the past or future it would be baffling to a reader.

of course, there ARE plenty of people who write posts and you have no clue what they're saying while reading them. another litizen IM'd me a passage last night that made us both go, "huh?"

i'll add to the list while i'm here:

who/whom... not that it's a huge deal but it's hysterical when someone uses "whom" in completely the wrong place... and they've used it to try to sound like they're wiser than they are... then they wind up looking uber-stupid.

 

[EJFan]

i just happened across this browser plugin at pcworld that will spell check any text input field in your IE browser. i don't know if it works in other browsers but i figured it's worth posting if only for the IE users.

i haven't looked at it in detail or even tried it... but the link above is to a page that explains the product.

 

[~ Kit ~]

http://www.wsu.edu/~brians/errors/errors.html#errors

 

[~ Kit ~]

I can't speak for others, but I use "nekkid" on purpose. There's a difference between "naked" and "nekkid."

Naked means "without clothes."

Nekkid means "without clothes and up to something."

And nakkie - The Rugrats lol

 

[Eilan]

down here it's a little different... "naked" is a word used by the culturally elite... "nekkid" means "i'm not wearing clothes and i'm a redneck"... i use the latter to poke fun at the rednecks. in fact, some (not all, but some) of my misspellings and erroneous grammar is done for this exact reason.

When I'm with my husband, I'm "nekkid," and it's not a redneck thing.

i remember many, many, many months ago, someone went on a tirade about using IM abbreviations in the forum. i understand the frustration but i see words as symbols of communication. if the point gets across, that's the most important thing.

To an extent, yes. What's frustrating, though, is when high school and college students start thinking that it's okay to write research papers and in-class assignments in IM abbreviations. I've seen this firsthand, and I've heard other teachers complain as well.

Actually, I suspected that one of last week's underage posters was underage because of the way her posts were written.

And nakkie - The Rugrats lol

How could we forget the Rugrats?

 

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[midwestyankee]

Who is a subjective pronoun and can so is correctly used as the subject of a sentence or clause. Examples: Who is at the door? I enjoy chatting with anyone who has a good mind and a sense of humor.

Whom is an objective pronoun and thus is used as the object of a preposition or a verb. Examples: To whom did you give the money? I will invite whomever I wish.

Whose is a possessive pronoun. Example: Whose coat is this?

 

[SweetErika]

Who is a subjective pronoun and can so is correctly used as the subject of a sentence or clause. Examples: Who is at the door? I enjoy chatting with anyone who has a good mind and a sense of humor.

Whom is an objective pronoun and thus is used as the object of a preposition or a verb. Examples: To whom did you give the money? I will invite whomever I wish.

Whose is a possessive pronoun. Example: Whose coat is this?

I have trouble with the difference too, and even deciphering "object/subject pronoun" because I learned different words for parts of speech in school. I think this is a pretty good trick though: http://www.sparknotes.com/writing/style/topic_187.html:

"If you can’t get who and whom straight, try this trick: rephrase the sentence to get rid of who or whom. If you find you’ve replaced who/whom with he, she, or they, who is correct.

If you find you’ve replaced who/whom with him, her, or them, then whom is correct.

For example, suppose you have the question Who/whom is the most famous A-list star eating lunch at Elaine’s? Rephrase it: She is the most famous A-list star eating lunch at Elaine’s. Since you’ve used she, you know who is correct in the original question: Who is the most famous A-list star at Elaine’s?

Another example: Vaughn wondered who/whom he would kiss next. Rephrase: Vaughn would kiss her next. Since the rephrased sentence uses her, you know whom is correct: Vaughn wondered whom he would kiss next. "



So, he/she/they/it = who
Him/her/them = whom

That's something I can remember.

 

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[SweetErika]

Midwestyankee and SweetErika, please accept this as a token of my gratitude. So, then who's is a contraction of who is?

(i'm gonna have to print this stuff up for later use)

Yep, it's a contraction of who is. Just like it's and they're, the apostrophe indicates a contraction, not possession.

 

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[Pyro Paul]

To an extent, yes. What's frustrating, though, is when high school and college students start thinking that it's okay to write research papers and in-class assignments in IM abbreviations. I've seen this firsthand, and I've heard other teachers complain as well.

its acctualy starting to be called cyber lingo. its quite intresting too. there was a major out cry of a lot of public schools (again blaming computers and online being evil and rotting our brains) that young children (between 4th and 9th grade) where using words in there reports papers and even just basic simple writing tasks that are used Online. it is becoming more and more intresting as young kids litteraly Write the abrvations of the online lingo words Out.

an intresting thing because a student wrote out a lot of abrvations in a paper (IMO LOL BBL)

also on another note, i once had a girl friend(a friend that was a girl) that did the most helrious thing... we played MMORPG's togeather (massively multiplayer online roleplaying games for your commoners) and she was new to it, after about 2 months of straight playing and losing touch with her life outside of the game, when she went to work (after a 2 month vacation) the first said to one of her co workers was, "oh my god, i was like L-o-L" and then every one stared at her for the next 5 minutes... i was dying of laughter.

 

[Indigo8]

I hate when people type in text speak, that`s so fucking annoying. How hard is it to actually type out the whole word and not just a few?

This irritates the shit out of me too.

r there ne grrls n2 games? gr8.

I actually saw this on a computer programming board that I visit.

 

[bisexplicit]

haha, I love how everyone is so very anal about spelling, grammar, etc. in this forum. I feel like other forums that wouldn't be as true.

One thing that drives me up a wall, now that I'm in O Canada, is words that I feel should be spelled one way, but everyone else insists on spelling another way. "Programmes," "colours," and "centres" all drive me crazy. (Especially "centre" - after having taken quite a few french courses I'm supposed to read this word and pronounce it "center"? Ugh.)

Another thing, since I feel like whining some more about it - is people who IM you and expect to be taken seriously when using those stupid little abbreviations. I barely have the patience for "You're hot. Want to cyber?" But, when its "u r hawt, wnt 2 syber?"...Well, don't even get me started.

But, I do agree that before you jump down someone's throat regarding some spelling or grammar we should make note of ESL possibilities.

 

[midwestyankee]

This irritates the shit out of me too.

r there ne grrls n2 games? gr8.

I actually saw this on a computer programming board that I visit.

On the bright side: some people have to spend money on laxatives.

 

[bisexplicit]

Oh, one more thing. This is, by the way, all a manner of forcing upper middle class ideals upon everyone and forcing conformity and suppressing individualism. (In case you wanted to have a little linguistic anthropology thrown your way.)

 

[midwestyankee]

Oh, one more thing. This is, by the way, all a manner of forcing upper middle class ideals upon everyone and forcing conformity and suppressing individualism. (In case you wanted to have a little linguistic anthropology thrown your way.)

Bear in mind, however, that uniformity (at least some modicum of predictability and commonality of usage) are absolute essentials without which civilization could not exist.