Stories and Breast sizes.

[PennLady]

Yes - detailed information (eg 5 feet 1 inch tall, 91 lbs, 44DD-18-36, blonde hair down to waist level, green eyes, clean shaven from the neck down, blue painted toe nails, etc.) is absolutely essential in the right place.

However, the right place is a forensic pathologist's report on a corpse, not an erotic author's description of a heroine.

It is an interesting fact that in the 12 "Delights" novels (600K words) the principal character is never described physically, and I have never once had any feedback criticising that fact, or even asking about it.

I disagree. Just because you don't like to read or write those descriptions doesn't mean others won't. Those kind of things can be appropriate to a character or story style.

Now, I myself don't give much description like that. I tend to go for hair color, etc., and space it out in a story. But it doesn't mean I might not find a story to write one day where such a "laundry list" description would be the best way to go.

 

[EMPRESSLAINIE]

I don't think (may be wrong!) I have ever referred to a bra size in any of my nasty stories. I also don't use cock inches either.

 

[Noor]

Yes - detailed information (eg 5 feet 1 inch tall, 91 lbs, 44DD-18-36, blonde hair down to waist level, green eyes, clean shaven from the neck down, blue painted toe nails, etc.) is absolutely essential in the right place.

However, the right place is a forensic pathologist's report on a corpse, not an erotic author's description of a heroine.

It is an interesting fact that in the 12 "Delights" novels (600K words) the principal character is never described physically, and I have never once had any feedback criticising that fact, or even asking about it.

"5 feet 1 inch tall, 91 lbs, 44DD-18-36, blonde hair down to waist level" -not physically possible.

A corpse is correct.
A 44" rib cage would make a person large framed so this character would be over 25% under ideal body weight, the DD's would have to be implants because when you get that thin you lose all fat and your breasts shrink. Hair would also need to be a wig because your hair falls out.

 

[lazyhobo]

"5 feet 1 inch tall, 91 lbs, 44DD-18-36, blonde hair down to waist level" -not physically possible.

A corpse is correct.
A 44" rib cage would make a person large framed so this character would be over 25% under ideal body weight, the DD's would have to be implants because when you get that thin you lose all fat and your breasts shrink. Hair would also need to be a wig because your hair falls out.

I hope you realize that all of that information was probably made up on the spot, used only to show an example of how people may display the basic measurements and information.

 

[mynameisben]

To reduce the possibility of offending the breast-challenged among my female readership (whom I could list by name but will refrain from doing so out of deference to both Shelly and Elaine), I judiciously avoid mentioning bra sizes altogether.

When writing quality erotica is of paramount concern, breast size is far too superficial a measure of a woman's sexual attractiveness. This is especially true when coming from a male author. You are much better off focusing on the true beauty of a woman's inner qualities, such as vaginal depth, fluid viscosity, and its resistance to thermal breakdown under demanding load situations.

 

[lazyhobo]

To reduce the possibility of offending the breast-challenged among my female readership (whom I could list by name but will refrain from doing so out of deference to both Shelly and Elaine), I judiciously avoid mentioning bra sizes altogether.

When writing quality erotica is of paramount concern, breast size is far too superficial a measure of a woman's sexual attractiveness. This is especially true when coming from a male author. You are much better off focusing on the true beauty of a woman's inner qualities, such as vaginal depth, fluid viscosity, and its resistance to thermal breakdown under demanding load situations.

This discussion is nothing to do with a women's sexual attractiveness or their true beauty. Its about should we use Bra sizes / measurements when detailing their size.

Now whether you find breast size to be superficial, if you use the breasts IN the story, then you should give us some information regarding a size, We want to know if those small apple like breasts fit snugly in the palm of our hands, or whether those luscious melons squeeze out from around our hands, obviously being a bit too big.

Now those are just some silly descriptions, but the point is, we want to know. At the very least, a Majority (Of the Male readers) Want to know, no need to throw out numbers, or go into depth, but at least give us an idea to how big they are, regardless of whether you use bra sizes or use items / food that compare.

 

[sr71plt]

This is just Ben throwing in a bit of humor.

 

[nicecthulhu]

I prefer not to include detailed measurements on women's breasts or a man's erection.
First off, I'm in the group that doesn't know bra sizes. If I had to buy a bra for my wife I'd be performing the old joke.
Also, I'm not as experienced as many of the other authors around here, but I thought many female readers might be put off by a measurement. If they're reading a story and the woman's built like a barbie doll, then doesn't that take away a bit of the 'oh, that could be me that guy is doing those wonderful things to'? On the other hand, a somewhat vague description (i.e. the size of oranges, hand-sized, whatever) could fit into a woman's imagination as similar to the way she imagines herself. So, then she sees herself as the female protoganist and gets more out of the story?
I can understand that some people might want those details, but isn't the larger audience trying to imagine themselves in the story?
I'm not too keen on reading about a guy with a 12", but an average-sized guy fits into my self-image (whatever average is). I assumed that women, for the most part, would be the same.

That was very funny, mynameisben.

 

[PennLady]

I prefer not to include detailed measurements on women's breasts or a man's erection.
First off, I'm in the group that doesn't know bra sizes. If I had to buy a bra for my wife I'd be performing the old joke.

I'm with you, I prefer not to include such specifics, either, and I probably forget them as soon as I read them in a story unless they are important to the story. However, some people do get a better picture of a character's body with that information, and as SR pointed out earlier, some characters might be interested in or fixate on that.

And as far as bra sizes, well, then thing is a 36D isn't always a 36D. I imagine you could get five different women who all wear the same size bra, and they'd all have different body types. So a specific size is going to call up different images to different people, and that's not a bad thing.

Also, I'm not as experienced as many of the other authors around here, but I thought many female readers might be put off by a measurement. If they're reading a story and the woman's built like a barbie doll, then doesn't that take away a bit of the 'oh, that could be me that guy is doing those wonderful things to'? On the other hand, a somewhat vague description (i.e. the size of oranges, hand-sized, whatever) could fit into a woman's imagination as similar to the way she imagines herself. So, then she sees herself as the female protoganist and gets more out of the story?
I can understand that some people might want those details, but isn't the larger audience trying to imagine themselves in the story?

I think it's futile to guess what "the larger audience" is doing when reading a story. I personally don't imagine myself in the story. I want to relate to the characters, to empathize or sympathize. If I wanted me in a story, I'd write me in a story. All you can say is "some people probably like...." The only thing you can be sure of is what you like, or how you feel when reading a story.

Some people like reading about women with Barbie-doll figures and men with large endowments -- it's all part of the fantasy. Again, personally, I'm often put off with measurements because the author doesn't seem to check if such measurements are realistic. But not everybody wants realism.

I'm not too keen on reading about a guy with a 12", but an average-sized guy fits into my self-image (whatever average is). I assumed that women, for the most part, would be the same.

That was very funny, mynameisben.

I think it's best just not to assume what any reader likes or wants. Safer that way.

And that was hilarious, ben.

 

[snoopercharmbrights]

I don't think (may be wrong!) I have ever referred to a bra size in any of my nasty stories. ...

Er ... what about?

ALICIA’S STORY

My name is Alicia; I am 5'-9" tall, weight 150, and have 36C breasts. ...

 

[snoopercharmbrights]

"5 feet 1 inch tall, 91 lbs, 44DD-18-36, blonde hair down to waist level" -not physically possible.

A corpse is correct.
A 44" rib cage would make a person large framed so this character would be over 25% under ideal body weight, the DD's would have to be implants because when you get that thin you lose all fat and your breasts shrink. Hair would also need to be a wig because your hair falls out.

I hope you realize that all of that information was probably made up on the spot, used only to show an example of how people may display the basic measurements and information.

Partly, and partly to emphasise the weird shapes some people describe. I didn't mention the 13" (and more) penises.

 

[nicecthulhu]

I think it's futile to guess what "the larger audience" is doing when reading a story. I personally don't imagine myself in the story. I want to relate to the characters, to empathize or sympathize. If I wanted me in a story, I'd write me in a story. All you can say is "some people probably like...." The only thing you can be sure of is what you like, or how you feel when reading a story.

Some people like reading about women with Barbie-doll figures and men with large endowments -- it's all part of the fantasy. Again, personally, I'm often put off with measurements because the author doesn't seem to check if such measurements are realistic. But not everybody wants realism.

In using the term 'larger audience' I was assuming that most people are like me and get caught up in a movie or book. Well, a good movie or a good book. Some fiction is designed to draw you in and make you feel like you're part of the story. Most good fiction gives you a good emotional kick. If the character is too different from the reader then it may be difficult for the reader to feel connected to the character on an emotional level.
A good example might be action films. It was easy to get drawn into Raiders because Harrison Ford wasn't a superman. Arnold's films tend to be more comical and 'how is he going to kill the bad guy?', possibly because very few viewers can relate to his characters.

I definitely agree that different people want different things, though. I had a friend who thought Arnold really portrayed his characters well. And another who thought for the longest time that any woman who didn't look like a centerfold was homely.

Anyway, check it all of as another poor attempt to explain what is going through my head. So much for a career in writing...

 

[PennLady]

It may be that most people do get caught up in stories or movies, but not always for the same reasons. And plain and simple, there's no telling what people will like. I love Raiders, but plenty of others don't.

As for the writing -- just keep practicing.

 

[elfin_odalisque]

I've read several stories and I'm constantly hitting a problem. When describing a woman's breasts, mainly regarding their size, people and authors seem to think that a simple "and she had 34D breasts" is enough information. To be honest, to a man like me with no knowledge of Bra's and their sizes, giving me a bra measurement and a breast size are two completely different things.

I had one story, where even though the breasts were described and included throughout all 7 lit pages, I only actually found out their size around the end of the 5th page, where he described them as "good in size, not really too large, not tiny but enough to fill a general palm" now its not the best description, but I did get the point about how large they really were. The cup size I was given at the start, did not tell me at all how large they really were.

Now, What are your opinions regarding bra sizes as a way of effectively describing the size of a woman's breasts? and if you think, like myself, that this is a bad way of describing them, should we as Editors mention this to any Authors that simply put a cup size?

There was a wonderful 'how to', written by a great guy, that said how can any man estimate a woman's bra size. I can't find it to quote it. It may have been taken down.

As Mistress L and Penn Lady have said, bra size changes between types of bra and different manufacturers. In shops I go up and down cup and chest sizes enough times to make me seasick.

Also, a little known fact, most women have breasts of different sizes.

Ages ago I wrote a fluffy piece on this subject, breasts and bra sizes

Personally, I don't understand why avoiding description to quote random quantification that has little reality helps any story. Even in a rape or incest story the protag doesn't scream, "I love your 36DD jugs".

 

[sr71plt]

Ages ago I wrote a fluffy piece on this subject, breasts and bra sizes

Yes, that was ages ago. Over six years. It also, not incidentally, was the last work Elfin posted to Literotica. Over six years ago.

 

[elfin_odalisque]

Yes, that was ages ago. Over six years. It also, not incidentally, was the last work Elfin posted to Literotica. Over six years ago.

Well, it was still good enough to warrant a 'W'. I'll settle for that.

sr, are you still stalking me? Would a roll in the hay subdue your overactive libido?

Oh, I get it! You miss getting off to my erotic stories. I understand old man. I'll try and serve you one soon. Keep stroking.

 

[Tio_Narratore]

There was a wonderful 'how to', written by a great guy, that said how can any man estimate a woman's bra size. I can't find it to quote it. It may have been taken down.

As Mistress L and Penn Lady have said, bra size changes between types of bra and different manufacturers. In shops I go up and down cup and chest sizes enough times to make me seasick.

Also, a little known fact, most women have breasts of different sizes.
Ages ago I wrote a fluffy piece on this subject, breasts and bra sizes

Personally, I don't understand why avoiding description to quote random quantification that has little reality helps any story. Even in a rape or incest story the protag doesn't scream, "I love your 36DD jugs".

There was a young lady from Nizes
Whose breasts were of two different sizes.
One was so small
It was nothing at all,
But the other was large and won prizes.

 

[elfin_odalisque]

There was a young lady from Nizes
Whose breasts were of two different sizes.
One was so small
It was nothing at all,
But the other was large and won prizes.

Are we talking Edward Lear here?

 

[Tio_Narratore]

Are we talking Edward Lear here?

Edward isn't the only Limerickist around, you know, but I don't know the provenance of this old Chest-Nut. Still, I'd expect Lear to leer at our asymmetric miss...

 

[sr71plt]

I'll try and serve you one soon. Keep stroking.

I won't hold my breath for that. All of your "trying" for six years has produced squat.

 

[Thefamiliar]

If I hadn't read your post as I did, I wouldn't have answered what I did.

I'm happy that's not what you meant, though.

Perhaps, I was a bit quick on the reaction, in my original post, rereading it sounded kind of snotty...sometimes I dont bother to edit, and I can come accross rigid.

Glad you made me clarify though. Im sure you are not the onky one who read it like that.