anonamouse said:
Angeline said:I realized early on that the academy and the literary world alike, and I don't think there really is a distinction between the two, are always dominated by fools, knaves, charlatans and bureaucrats. And that being the case, any human being, male or female, of whatever status, who has a voice of her or his own, is not going to be liked.
-- Harold Bloom
wildsweetone said:i've borrowed this poem of normal jean's and put it here because there's something i'd like to ask... (and normal jean, it is simply that your poem triggered off some thinking out loud for me
one of the theories i glanced at a while back was that the woman Shakespeare is said to have written (was it his sonnets? sorry i've forgotten) for, was actually a man. of course another theory is that it was a black woman. actually, from what i gathered there were many theories and none of them proven.
I have also been reading 'Classic Haiku - An Anthology of Poems by Basho and His Folowers' which is translated and annotated by Astaro Miyamori. In this book Astaro not only translates but also tells us what was probably in Baso's thoughts when he wrote his Haiku.
I wonder sometimes how many people, noted or not, actually get it wrong when they inform us why and what these famous people were writing about.
Sure some things can be proven to be correct. But when there are many opinions around like there are for Shakespeare and for Basho (innumerable people in innumerable languages translate Basho's writing and often come up with very different meanings during the translation process), how do you know which to believe?
How much of our knowledge about these two and other classics, is wrong?
What do you do? Choose an option that you prefer, one that seems more right than the others?
Angeline said:I realized early on that the academy and the literary world alike, and I don't think there really is a distinction between the two, are always dominated by fools, knaves, charlatans and bureaucrats. And that being the case, any human being, male or female, of whatever status, who has a voice of her or his own, is not going to be liked.
-- Harold Bloom
bogusbrig said:
Angeline said:Prairie Lights is my favorite bookstore. They have a huge poetry selection and loads of oddball stuff you can't find anywhere else. I'd love to support them more, but I don't get to Iowa City too often anymore.
GRRR!
I love bookstores and am lucky to live in an area where there are quite good ones. The University Book Store, which is semi-associated with the University of Washington, is large, comprehensive, has a pretty good poetry section and all kinds of other interesting things like a section on "cultural theory" (where you can get your yuks reading Cixous, Foucault, de Man, and others). Open Books, which is fairly close by, is the only all-poetry bookstore west of the Mississippi. Wide range of contemporary poetry, both new and used. Run by a guy who was a student of Bill Knott.Angeline said:Yes, but they have to eat and pay the rent, too. People buy Frost and Neruda. Bill Knott and Ted Berrigan don't sell. I've been trying for the longest time to find either (or both) of Sandra Cisneros's books of poetry in my local bookstores. Oh, they can order them or I can get them at Amazon, but I won't find them on local shelves.
Prairie Lights is my favorite bookstore. They have a huge poetry selection and loads of oddball stuff you can't find anywhere else. I'd love to support them more, but I don't get to Iowa City too often anymore.
Tzara said:
If you go, give Trudy¹ a wink for me, mate.bogusbrig said:To hell with it, I'm going to buy a ticket. Rotterdam to London Stansted 90 euro return, 35 minutes flight. Why am I whinging and not on the plane?
Angeline said:Yes, but they have to eat and pay the rent, too. People buy Frost and Neruda. Bill Knott and Ted Berrigan don't sell. I've been trying for the longest time to find either (or both) of Sandra Cisneros's books of poetry in my local bookstores. Oh, they can order them or I can get them at Amazon, but I won't find them on local shelves.
Prairie Lights is my favorite bookstore. They have a huge poetry selection and loads of oddball stuff you can't find anywhere else. I'd love to support them more, but I don't get to Iowa City too often anymore.
