To everyone who wants to discuss/ask about BDSM

Not all BDSM is d/s.
Not everyone wants to discuss in detail what is going to play out. Not everyone does "scenes" actually.
I don't know what you mean by usual d/s relationship?

If someone is new to this and/or new to their partner, it might be a good idea to talk a lot about who you are and what you like or think you'd like.

I don't understand what you mean when you say it would be moot if a submissive doesn't like something in a scene?

Well i was talking in general. What i have realised that each d/s relationship is different. Well forgive me, but i dont have much knowledge. I m reading things and certain how to or certain stories which helps in making me understand and question.
I m not sub/dom. I m still learning and understanding myself.
What i meant was different. And it was cleared later on.( not being rude, i m at loss how to explain myself)
thank you for your reply
 
It doesn't feel different to me. What we do feels like being husband and wife. However, when I look at it from the lens of what is seen as "normal" I see it's obviously different.

For us it's different because we are both into S&M. I have chosen not to say no to sex, at least from the start. I like to be tied up.

Thank you so much for replying back and conversing. Nods, so isnt a bit like a label given to what a couple does?
 
Thank you so much for replying back and conversing. Nods, so isnt a bit like a label given to what a couple does?

I'm slightly confused, but I think you're saying BDSM is a label given to what a couple does? I suppose you could say that.

Remember, BDSM is a huge umbrella term. It's like the word exercise. It could encompass a huge number of activities, and not everyone likes all activities that would be included with the term.
 
I'm slightly confused, but I think you're saying BDSM is a label given to what a couple does? I suppose you could say that.

Remember, BDSM is a huge umbrella term. It's like the word exercise. It could encompass a huge number of activities, and not everyone likes all activities that would be included with the term.

Yes. i meant BDSM is a label given to what couple does. Sorry for not being specific and confusing you.
*Understanding* So, one should know/willing to explore certain activities which is CSS and in boundaries to what a D/s couple discussed and agreed before?
 
punishment

I was just exploring the bdsm library forum in which the topic of punishment sprung up.
So, my question is when would the need to punish arise? Does disobeyance also leads to punishment?
What happens when Dom commits a mistake?
 
I was just exploring the bdsm library forum in which the topic of punishment sprung up.
So, my question is when would the need to punish arise? Does disobeyance also leads to punishment?
What happens when Dom commits a mistake?

When would the need to punish arise?
When the two parties have agreed that if certain rules aren't followed, the response will be punishment.

Does disobedience also lead to punishment?
Not in my case. I think there's a thread on punishment somewhere. You'd probably find it valuable.

What happens when Dom commits a mistake?
Sub respectfully points it out if it is necessary, and the dom fixes it or resolves to do things differently in the future. Or the dom convinces the sub why it wasn't a mistake. Or the dom is a jerk and does something entirely different. Or, the sub sucks it up and doesn't say anything about it. Either that works out fine because he/she is able to let it go, or it builds resentment and anger over time as the mistakes add up. This is like any other relationship with another person.
 
My Epiphany

I felt like something as always missing in my life.From childhood up.Teen and early adult years,more so.relationships lacked "something" but I could never figure out what.I felt like I wasn't whole. And it wasn't until a bad panic attack last year,that I came to the realization of what I was lacking.I lay there feeling like I was going to die.It was that bad.usually around 45 minutes plus for my attacks.Very scary for me.

I went into deep thought on my life,as I lay there,and started contemplating.From childhood until now. As a little girl,I awlays had the need to please and wanted praise.for whatever it was I was aske to do. Task finished and a thank you.I still stood there waiting.For what ??
and I was a shy,sensitive little girl.You yelled at me, I would cry and be upset,and upset that they were upset with me etc..My teen and early adult years, relationships felt incomplete.Sex was alright but unsatisfying for me.

While I was in my late twenties,events in life made me fearful of men,and it took me a few years after to get it through my head that not all males would hurt me.I still have a healthy fear of men I don't know,and some I do know.and to this day will get defensive if I feel threatened or too nervous around them.So safety is a huge deal for me. I have to know I'm safe with my partner and that he would not hurt me,or let anyone else hurt me.Not that I can't defend myself but,you get the point.

Several years later I realized I liked rough sex,nothing extreme mind you,But rough,even a smidge more than your normal rough.Being open minded as I am,I would give cues.Not being brave enough then to say what I wanted,Also knowing they weren't like that.And maybe it is my coping mechanism for the things in life I went though. A fellow Lit memeber and dear friend I was talking to had stated that.and it was a valid point.One I never thought of,until then. It makes more sense to me now.

Always being the more experienced,more dominant one in bed, that took charge of the pleasure aspect of it,in hopes that they would get my cues and take the lead.I was tired of being like that.In my life,from my twenties on, I was the foundation for those in my life.ALWAYS the one everyone leaned on for whatever.Always the strongest who knew what to do and when.people came to me for answers or help.And I did my best for them.Be it family or friend. A lot of stress.so I had myself on the back burner for a long time with my wants and needs.

Well,The last few years was the icing on the cake for me.My foundation crumbled.I couldn't be what everyone wanted anymore. I didn't have it in me to do it anymore.For the first time in my life, I felt weak.and completely lost.I made the wrong choice,and gave up. To the point I didn't want to live.I didn't want to be here anymore. and almost did it too_One thing stopped me cold.My kids.So I picked myself back up,Having no one but myself to lean on.and started taking care of me,finally.Now that I know what my health issues are,and am dealing with them.I focused on my wants and needs for a change.And refocused on what I thought was missing.I started researching and reading articles,for months absorbing knowledge and other peoples stories. and that's also how I found LIT in mid DEC. of '14.

I agree with many posters on being the focal point in your life,Always the strong one or boss, in life, your job,what have you..It would be such a change,and a nice relief to give the reigns over to, have someone dominant and assertive,who can take charge, to lean on,and say, "I got this" even if it's only at certain times.That's where my sub side comes in. I don't believe I'm a natural sub.Never been one to listen to anyone in life.Blazing my own trail,Even if it's crooked :) and I had no clue where I was going.I just went with it.

So that's going to be a learning experience for me.Having to "defer to" some one stronger and more Dominant than me, I've never listened to anyone in my life. Not even my ex husbands.So in that area, I think I'll need a lot of patience,Since I am quite stubborn and willfull and " Obeying" will be a feat for me to accomplish.But not impossible to learn.

I know in many aspects of BDSM, no matter what level you play on,some have rules and guidelines for their S's. and that's fine too.Knowing for most D's, it's for their Subs' health and safety.As well as for the Dom's wants and needs.The lifestyle goes both ways. dom's also need aftercare sometimes.Just as the sub does after a scene or playtime.so I've also been learning those possiblilites for future reference.

I think the D/s relationship needs both parties helping each other learn and grow,as a person and or a couple. It should not be all one sided.Complete submission would be very scary for me.Never submitting in that way,in that sense, to anyone in my life. Would I even know how,on whatever level of submission that is agreed apon.So that particular fear might, for me, be a slower process to accomplish.But learning about each other and knowing each other more as you go,Communicating openly and honestly about all the aspects involved,You will eventually become less fearful and more at ease and I do believe " Guidelines" or rules are important also.To an extent. It would make the relationship a little smoother, as opposed to having very little or no rules.
Depending on your level of BDSM,Family size and agreement.and having issues crop up because you did something wrong but didn't realize it would be something that would upset your parter.With some rules stated and agreed upon,The relationship would be easier for both parties to adjust to. But every couple is different.Some have no rules.For me, I prefer someone who can keep me grounded and focused.That states they care about you,your well being,safetyand health. I can get A.D.D at times so staying focused on a subject or project is sometimes difficult for me.I flitter from one thing to another at times.Trying to do everything at once.

My apologies for the length, I write a lot when talking about something I'm passionate about. Or have knowledge of. I know I still have much to learn and It will be a fun process.
 
I have to comment on the "giving up all control" aspect to this discussion. There's a very wide and colorful middle ground too. You don't have to give up all control. And I would argue that even if you like the idea, you only give up a little bit to the start if you're new. I mean you don't meet someone you like, marry them that day, make joint bank accounts, make your wills, and have sex with them all in one day do you?

Also, not every relationship has a dynamic where one person gives up their power all the time. We are pretty vanilla most of the time, and I "wear the pants" in the relationship so to speak. I'm not in charge, but I usually have strong ideas of what I want and he's generally easy to convince. I'm usually the one seen around the house saying, "Dear, can you go do x?" He does it because he's happy to, and prefers for me to be the one that makes sure everything gets done. He also generally trusts that the world will continue to go round without him, and I feel as if the world will collapse in a heap if I'm not making sure it all stays together (slight exaggeration).

He rarely asks me to do things. In fact, the other day he was being productive and cleaning, and I was being a useless lump. I asked him what he wanted me to do (because I felt guilty about not helping) and he got all frustrated with me and snapped and said he was not going to tell me what to do. He's usually laid back but this really triggered something in him.

And yet when we have sex the rules change entirely. We go from equal partners with me generally the guiding force, to him being 100% in charge. Even in the early days of our relationship before we really knew what we wanted he was generally the one guiding that part of our relationship. I need that in sex so I can let go and enjoy the experience without stressing about whether I'm feeling the right things, or doing the right things, or whatever other neurotic thoughts I do normally. My early fantasies were always of not being in control.

People in vanilla relationships divide up responsibility/authority all the time without even realizing it. I feel like sometimes when people think of BDSM they think they have to slough off all the knowledge and common sense that comes from the "vanilla" world. You don't have to entirely change the rules (unless you want to). Sometimes incorporating BDSM into your relationship just means tweaking things a bit. Sometimes it means changing the rules entirely.

Take it slow, enjoy the journey, find someone to get to know who you feel compatible with and over time see what works for the two of you. The dynamic you have in one relationship may not play out exactly the same in a relationship with someone different.

OK I'll step off my soap box now haha. I'm sure I've already said much of this before. It's just that so much of what you can read about BDSM and D/s relationships is often on the extreme end of a power exchange can work. It's totally valid, but there are as many ways of going about this as there are people doing it.

Great post

I remember commenting to someone that I was sexually submissive only and he didn't seem to understand, and yet he was very much positioning himself as an experienced Dominant...it was only as the conversation progressed that I realised he was a fantasist, and playing out his fantasy on here.

Not that I think there's anything wrong in that..the mind can be a wonderful place to play out fantasies that you cannot access in RL

I hope you've read stella omegas essay ...it's fabulous about picking your kink
 
Thank you for your reply.
Do you mind if I ask you how did you know you have the submissive-ness in you?
How did you embrace it or let's say accepted it?
With newbie is it better to have an experienced Dom so as to know how to make things work?

I've always been happiest pleasing others. Sometimes to my own detriment. I vaguely had ideas of being controlled and found myself drawn to erotica featuring BDSM themes. I didn't want to fully acknowledge my fantasies (or make any of it real) until an acquaintance told me about his involvement in the local BDSM community. He dropped some words like "munch" and the name of a local club. I googled and started researching. Finding normal everyday people like myself made me feel so much better. I came here and have been enjoying myself ever since. :)

Having an experienced partner comes with the perks of having someone that understands the situation a little better. My husband and I started together, me having a little more knowledge than him. That was only because I introduced him and researched far more. It's been fun learning with him.

So the submissive can choose which part of control they have and which they offer to Dom?

Yep! You look for a partner that is compatible with your level and you negotiate and come to an understanding. This can evolve and change thought the relationship. Never think you can't renegotiate. Subs and doms are human beings before anything else.
 
When would the need to punish arise?
When the two parties have agreed that if certain rules aren't followed, the response will be punishment.

Does disobedience also lead to punishment?
Not in my case. I think there's a thread on punishment somewhere. You'd probably find it valuable.

What happens when Dom commits a mistake?
Sub respectfully points it out if it is necessary, and the dom fixes it or resolves to do things differently in the future. Or the dom convinces the sub why it wasn't a mistake. Or the dom is a jerk and does something entirely different. Or, the sub sucks it up and doesn't say anything about it. Either that works out fine because he/she is able to let it go, or it builds resentment and anger over time as the mistakes add up. This is like any other relationship with another person.


Thank you so much!
And yes you got me, I m an avid reader. *Blushes*
I will look into the thread and reply back.
 
I was just exploring the bdsm library forum in which the topic of punishment sprung up.
So, my question is when would the need to punish arise? Does disobeyance also leads to punishment?
What happens when Dom commits a mistake?

Punishment isn't right for everyone. In my relationship, we tried it and found that it didn't serve much of a purpose. Disobedience only leads to punishment if you've agreed to do that. I dunno what happens in other relationships, but typically we both own up to our mistakes and take responsibility like adults.

Check the link in my signature to see how many of us operate. It's a great opportunity to see the diversity here. :) [/shameless plug]
 
I felt like something as always missing in my life.From childhood up.Teen and early adult years,more so.relationships lacked "something" but I could never figure out what.I felt like I wasn't whole. And it wasn't until a bad panic attack last year,that I came to the realization of what I was lacking.I lay there feeling like I was going to die.It was that bad.usually around 45 minutes plus for my attacks.Very scary for me.

I went into deep thought on my life,as I lay there,and started contemplating.From childhood until now. As a little girl,I awlays had the need to please and wanted praise.for whatever it was I was aske to do. Task finished and a thank you.I still stood there waiting.For what ??
and I was a shy,sensitive little girl.You yelled at me, I would cry and be upset,and upset that they were upset with me etc..My teen and early adult years, relationships felt incomplete.Sex was alright but unsatisfying for me.

While I was in my late twenties,events in life made me fearful of men,and it took me a few years after to get it through my head that not all males would hurt me.I still have a healthy fear of men I don't know,and some I do know.and to this day will get defensive if I feel threatened or too nervous around them.So safety is a huge deal for me. I have to know I'm safe with my partner and that he would not hurt me,or let anyone else hurt me.Not that I can't defend myself but,you get the point.

Several years later I realized I liked rough sex,nothing extreme mind you,But rough,even a smidge more than your normal rough.Being open minded as I am,I would give cues.Not being brave enough then to say what I wanted,Also knowing they weren't like that.And maybe it is my coping mechanism for the things in life I went though. A fellow Lit memeber and dear friend I was talking to had stated that.and it was a valid point.One I never thought of,until then. It makes more sense to me now.

Always being the more experienced,more dominant one in bed, that took charge of the pleasure aspect of it,in hopes that they would get my cues and take the lead.I was tired of being like that.In my life,from my twenties on, I was the foundation for those in my life.ALWAYS the one everyone leaned on for whatever.Always the strongest who knew what to do and when.people came to me for answers or help.And I did my best for them.Be it family or friend. A lot of stress.so I had myself on the back burner for a long time with my wants and needs.

Well,The last few years was the icing on the cake for me.My foundation crumbled.I couldn't be what everyone wanted anymore. I didn't have it in me to do it anymore.For the first time in my life, I felt weak.and completely lost.I made the wrong choice,and gave up. To the point I didn't want to live.I didn't want to be here anymore. and almost did it too_One thing stopped me cold.My kids.So I picked myself back up,Having no one but myself to lean on.and started taking care of me,finally.Now that I know what my health issues are,and am dealing with them.I focused on my wants and needs for a change.And refocused on what I thought was missing.I started researching and reading articles,for months absorbing knowledge and other peoples stories. and that's also how I found LIT in mid DEC. of '14.

I agree with many posters on being the focal point in your life,Always the strong one or boss, in life, your job,what have you..It would be such a change,and a nice relief to give the reigns over to, have someone dominant and assertive,who can take charge, to lean on,and say, "I got this" even if it's only at certain times.That's where my sub side comes in. I don't believe I'm a natural sub.Never been one to listen to anyone in life.Blazing my own trail,Even if it's crooked :) and I had no clue where I was going.I just went with it.

So that's going to be a learning experience for me.Having to "defer to" some one stronger and more Dominant than me, I've never listened to anyone in my life. Not even my ex husbands.So in that area, I think I'll need a lot of patience,Since I am quite stubborn and willfull and " Obeying" will be a feat for me to accomplish.But not impossible to learn.

I know in many aspects of BDSM, no matter what level you play on,some have rules and guidelines for their S's. and that's fine too.Knowing for most D's, it's for their Subs' health and safety.As well as for the Dom's wants and needs.The lifestyle goes both ways. dom's also need aftercare sometimes.Just as the sub does after a scene or playtime.so I've also been learning those possiblilites for future reference.

I think the D/s relationship needs both parties helping each other learn and grow,as a person and or a couple. It should not be all one sided.Complete submission would be very scary for me.Never submitting in that way,in that sense, to anyone in my life. Would I even know how,on whatever level of submission that is agreed apon.So that particular fear might, for me, be a slower process to accomplish.But learning about each other and knowing each other more as you go,Communicating openly and honestly about all the aspects involved,You will eventually become less fearful and more at ease and I do believe " Guidelines" or rules are important also.To an extent. It would make the relationship a little smoother, as opposed to having very little or no rules.
Depending on your level of BDSM,Family size and agreement.and having issues crop up because you did something wrong but didn't realize it would be something that would upset your parter.With some rules stated and agreed upon,The relationship would be easier for both parties to adjust to. But every couple is different.Some have no rules.For me, I prefer someone who can keep me grounded and focused.That states they care about you,your well being,safetyand health. I can get A.D.D at times so staying focused on a subject or project is sometimes difficult for me.I flitter from one thing to another at times.Trying to do everything at once.

My apologies for the length, I write a lot when talking about something I'm passionate about. Or have knowledge of. I know I still have much to learn and It will be a fun process.


Never do apologize for what you have written. It took a great deal of time to write and that too from your heart. I will always respect it and it means so much to me that you took your time to reply back.It has helped me immensely. Thank you.
 
We had a very vanilla marriage for years. Both my wife and I were very hard headed. But since she's accepted to submit to me. And give me the control and power that I need, our marriage and sex life has been amazing. She still likes to be stubborn once an awhile, but I sit her down and remind her of what I expect from her. I never punish her disobedience, but I fully reward her obediance and submission.
 
I felt like something as always missing in my life.From childhood up.Teen and early adult years,more so.relationships lacked "something" but I could never figure out what.I felt like I wasn't whole. And it wasn't until a bad panic attack last year,that I came to the realization of what I was lacking.I lay there feeling like I was going to die.It was that bad.usually around 45 minutes plus for my attacks.Very scary for me.

I went into deep thought on my life,as I lay there,and started contemplating.From childhood until now. As a little girl,I awlays had the need to please and wanted praise.for whatever it was I was aske to do. Task finished and a thank you.I still stood there waiting.For what ??
and I was a shy,sensitive little girl.You yelled at me, I would cry and be upset,and upset that they were upset with me etc..My teen and early adult years, relationships felt incomplete.Sex was alright but unsatisfying for me.

While I was in my late twenties,events in life made me fearful of men,and it took me a few years after to get it through my head that not all males would hurt me.I still have a healthy fear of men I don't know,and some I do know.and to this day will get defensive if I feel threatened or too nervous around them.So safety is a huge deal for me. I have to know I'm safe with my partner and that he would not hurt me,or let anyone else hurt me.Not that I can't defend myself but,you get the point.

Several years later I realized I liked rough sex,nothing extreme mind you,But rough,even a smidge more than your normal rough.Being open minded as I am,I would give cues.Not being brave enough then to say what I wanted,Also knowing they weren't like that.And maybe it is my coping mechanism for the things in life I went though. A fellow Lit memeber and dear friend I was talking to had stated that.and it was a valid point.One I never thought of,until then. It makes more sense to me now.

Always being the more experienced,more dominant one in bed, that took charge of the pleasure aspect of it,in hopes that they would get my cues and take the lead.I was tired of being like that.In my life,from my twenties on, I was the foundation for those in my life.ALWAYS the one everyone leaned on for whatever.Always the strongest who knew what to do and when.people came to me for answers or help.And I did my best for them.Be it family or friend. A lot of stress.so I had myself on the back burner for a long time with my wants and needs.

Well,The last few years was the icing on the cake for me.My foundation crumbled.I couldn't be what everyone wanted anymore. I didn't have it in me to do it anymore.For the first time in my life, I felt weak.and completely lost.I made the wrong choice,and gave up. To the point I didn't want to live.I didn't want to be here anymore. and almost did it too_One thing stopped me cold.My kids.So I picked myself back up,Having no one but myself to lean on.and started taking care of me,finally.Now that I know what my health issues are,and am dealing with them.I focused on my wants and needs for a change.And refocused on what I thought was missing.I started researching and reading articles,for months absorbing knowledge and other peoples stories. and that's also how I found LIT in mid DEC. of '14.

I agree with many posters on being the focal point in your life,Always the strong one or boss, in life, your job,what have you..It would be such a change,and a nice relief to give the reigns over to, have someone dominant and assertive,who can take charge, to lean on,and say, "I got this" even if it's only at certain times.That's where my sub side comes in. I don't believe I'm a natural sub.Never been one to listen to anyone in life.Blazing my own trail,Even if it's crooked :) and I had no clue where I was going.I just went with it.

So that's going to be a learning experience for me.Having to "defer to" some one stronger and more Dominant than me, I've never listened to anyone in my life. Not even my ex husbands.So in that area, I think I'll need a lot of patience,Since I am quite stubborn and willfull and " Obeying" will be a feat for me to accomplish.But not impossible to learn.

I know in many aspects of BDSM, no matter what level you play on,some have rules and guidelines for their S's. and that's fine too.Knowing for most D's, it's for their Subs' health and safety.As well as for the Dom's wants and needs.The lifestyle goes both ways. dom's also need aftercare sometimes.Just as the sub does after a scene or playtime.so I've also been learning those possiblilites for future reference.

I think the D/s relationship needs both parties helping each other learn and grow,as a person and or a couple. It should not be all one sided.Complete submission would be very scary for me.Never submitting in that way,in that sense, to anyone in my life. Would I even know how,on whatever level of submission that is agreed apon.So that particular fear might, for me, be a slower process to accomplish.But learning about each other and knowing each other more as you go,Communicating openly and honestly about all the aspects involved,You will eventually become less fearful and more at ease and I do believe " Guidelines" or rules are important also.To an extent. It would make the relationship a little smoother, as opposed to having very little or no rules.
Depending on your level of BDSM,Family size and agreement.and having issues crop up because you did something wrong but didn't realize it would be something that would upset your parter.With some rules stated and agreed upon,The relationship would be easier for both parties to adjust to. But every couple is different.Some have no rules.For me, I prefer someone who can keep me grounded and focused.That states they care about you,your well being,safetyand health. I can get A.D.D at times so staying focused on a subject or project is sometimes difficult for me.I flitter from one thing to another at times.Trying to do everything at once.

My apologies for the length, I write a lot when talking about something I'm passionate about. Or have knowledge of. I know I still have much to learn and It will be a fun process.

I've always been happiest pleasing others. Sometimes to my own detriment. I vaguely had ideas of being controlled and found myself drawn to erotica featuring BDSM themes. I didn't want to fully acknowledge my fantasies (or make any of it real) until an acquaintance told me about his involvement in the local BDSM community. He dropped some words like "munch" and the name of a local club. I googled and started researching. Finding normal everyday people like myself made me feel so much better. I came here and have been enjoying myself ever since. :)

Having an experienced partner comes with the perks of having someone that understands the situation a little better. My husband and I started together, me having a little more knowledge than him. That was only because I introduced him and researched far more. It's been fun learning with him.



Yep! You look for a partner that is compatible with your level and you negotiate and come to an understanding. This can evolve and change thought the relationship. Never think you can't renegotiate. Subs and doms are human beings before anything else.

Thank you so much!! Helped me to understand it :)
 
Never do apologize for what you have written. It took a great deal of time to write and that too from your heart. I will always respect it and it means so much to me that you took your time to reply back.It has helped me immensely. Thank you.

Your Very Welcome,Even condensing is difficult for me when writing. I try to answer as a whole in stead of just parts of a subject. lol :rose:
 
Punishment isn't right for everyone. In my relationship, we tried it and found that it didn't serve much of a purpose. Disobedience only leads to punishment if you've agreed to do that. I dunno what happens in other relationships, but typically we both own up to our mistakes and take responsibility like adults.

Check the link in my signature to see how many of us operate. It's a great opportunity to see the diversity here. :) [/shameless plug]

Okay :) I will do that :)
 
Punishment isn't right for everyone. In my relationship, we tried it and found that it didn't serve much of a purpose. Disobedience only leads to punishment if you've agreed to do that. I dunno what happens in other relationships, but typically we both own up to our mistakes and take responsibility like adults.

Check the link in my signature to see how many of us operate. It's a great opportunity to see the diversity here. :) [/shameless plug]

We had a very vanilla marriage for years. Both my wife and I were very hard headed. But since she's accepted to submit to me. And give me the control and power that I need, our marriage and sex life has been amazing. She still likes to be stubborn once an awhile, but I sit her down and remind her of what I expect from her. I never punish her disobedience, but I fully reward her obediance and submission.

Nods :)
 
I'm with Gianbattista. I don't do "scenes" I have sex. This is all a natural part of intimacy and sex in my marriage.

This is true for us as well. I've quoted Master on this a few times, because I think it's simple and succinct: D/s is how we love, BDSM is how we make love.

I was seduced into the lifestyle in college. It started out innocently enough--he was tutoring me, I thought he was sexy and made a move on him, and he completely turned things around. I'll be forever grateful to him for bringing me into his world. I don't usually pimp my stories but Impulse Control, Intimate Evening, and Initiation into Submission (in my link below) are a mostly-biography of how I stumbled into all of this. That was thirty-mumble years ago. :rose:
 
This is true for us as well. I've quoted Master on this a few times, because I think it's simple and succinct: D/s is how we love, BDSM is how we make love.

I was seduced into the lifestyle in college. It started out innocently enough--he was tutoring me, I thought he was sexy and made a move on him, and he completely turned things around. I'll be forever grateful to him for bringing me into his world. I don't usually pimp my stories but Impulse Control, Intimate Evening, and Initiation into Submission (in my link below) are a mostly-biography of how I stumbled into all of this. That was thirty-mumble years ago. :rose:

Oh wow :) I will read those stories and reply back :)
 
Ssc

Originally posted by RisiaSkye
One of the questions I am most commonly asked
about BDSM, both here and in RL, is how one
differentiates between Domination using extreme
sensation and abusive, hurtful relationshiops.
One of the few things I've consistently found
agreement on within the BDSM community, here
and elsewhere, is the primary need to adhere to
the SSC motto. So, let's take a look at this a little
more closely. What does Safe, Sane &
Consensual really mean?
Safe: A Dominant of any variety has a principal
and unwavering ethical and emotional duty to
their sub, bottom, slave (etc.) to keep them safe.
This means, no matter how intense or edgy the
play, that the Dominant must be in control of
themself and the scene, able to protect the sub
from real harm and damaging emotional turmoil.
This means not physically harming the sub in a
lasting way, it means knowing how to use any
toys that enter a scene (particularly with
potentially dangerous toys like TENS units), it
means respecting hard limits, and it means
always having one eye on the safety and
emotional security of the bottom/sub. A Dominant
who fails to do this fails both the sub, and
themself.
Safety also requries submissives to protect
themselves, particularly early in a relationship.
Safe-calls, safe-words, discussions of limits,
contracts, agreements, and even references from
other submissives work toward this end. Honesty
also goes a long way toward safety. If a
submissive has health issues or limits which may
affect play, it is their duty to be honest about
them. If a sub has a negative, frightening, or
damaging experience (like sub-drop), this should
also be communicated to the Dominant in the
interest of safety.
Sane: A BDSM relationship is a relationship first.
This means that all play should respect the
boundaries of personal respect and individual
needs, shouldn't require a person to lose their
sense of self, distance themselves from the rest of
their life, surrender things they want to keep, or
adopt an entirely new persona.
That's not to suggest that there are hard and fast
limits as to what can constitute play, or how far it
can go. It does mean, however, that consistent,
rational focus, and clear self-awareness are a
principle part of playing in safe and satisfying
ways. Drug use, sleep deprivation, violence,
public exposure, and other kinds of edgy, even
dangerous activities play a part in many (if not
most) relationships, BDSM or otherwise. There's a
big difference between drinking a bottle of
champagne and going on a five day coke binge,
however; at the point that these things begin to
compromise good judgement and the safety of
the players, they cease to be "sane."
This sexuality is a part of people's lives, to
differing degrees, but should always be
recognized as a part of their lives and
personalities. This requires "sanity" on the point
of the observer as well as the participants.
Further, all BDSM activities should be entirely
one's own choice. This brings us to the next point.
Consensual: All BDSM is chosen by both partners.
Any interaction, sexual or otherwise, which
exploits one of the participants or uses them
against their will is abuse , not BDSM. It's
important to realize that while you may not like or
enjoy the sexual behaviors favored by some within
this lifestyle, no matter how the behavior looks
from the outside it is a freely chosen consensual
behavior enacted between two adults. As such, it
deserves respect and tolerance.
Further, submissives do not cease to retain their
ability to choose when entering into any BDSM
relationship with a Dominant. Even in collared,
long-term RL relationships, perhaps the most
"binding" committment between two players, the
submissive is always a person with rights who
chooses the Dominant just as much as the Dom/
me chooses the sub. Hard limits exist for a
reason--as a marker of the submissive's consent
and its limits. Failure to respect those limits
compromises not only the safety of the sub, but
the foundational trust necessary to the
relationship as a whole. The minute it fails to be
consensual, it becomes abuse; when one player
no longer wants to play, if it continues, it becomes
rape.
Violent, passionate, aggressively heated sex is not
the same thing as abuse specifically because both
parties choose it, want it, desire it deeply. If they
did not, they wouldn't be there. If that's not the
case in your relationship or one you witness, it is
not BDSM. It is abuse, and should be treated
accordingly.
Please also see Hecate's thread on "breaking
submissives" for an elaboration of the difference
between Domination and abusive D/s relations.


I thought I would share this as this helped me to understand the very basic of what exactly bdsm is.
Secondly I realized how important is the responsibility of Dom to make sure of the well being of sub.
So my question is : What does A Dom do to ensure well being of their sub? Not just physical but mentally, emotionally too. And Oh, what is sub-drop?
Anyone is free to answer or ask :)
 
I, myself am still very new to this world, but have learned a lot about myself these last couple of months. Like many who have commented before me, I have always felt like I was missing something.

In my prior relationships, I had always gone out of my way to make sure the man I was with was well taken care of. I never really thought about it as me, having the need to be submissive, just super caring and wanting to make sure they were happy. And oddly enough looking back, I find that had lead to some very unhealthy relationships, where I was super unhappy. A few months ago I met 'R', and I knew something was completely different about him. We started out as a normal 'vanilla' relationship. When we would get intimate, he would be a little rough and was attempting to test the waters regarding how I would respond to simple things. He eventually informed me that he was a Dom and very much into BDSM, which lead to some very long conversations. I like many of the new people here went to the library and I spent hours, in there reading about everything. And scaring myself with some of the stuff. I am lucky to have 'R' while I am discovering this, because as soon as I have a question I message him and we discuss my concern about something.

The hardest thing I had trouble with over everything wasn't the fact that, he was into spanking, flogging, choking, rope paly, etc. It was the fact that I had to give up some control. I am a very independent woman, and need to feel in control to feel safe with my life. I have no desire to be a Domme, I have just been in a lot of crappy relationships. 'R' and I have been able to slowly over come this, with a lot of communication in and out of the bedroom. We don't call what we do scenes nor do we really discuss what is going to happen. I don't believe 'R' fully ever plans out what is going to happen when we are intimate, he kind of just goes with it. We sext a lot, when we aren't together and he teases me by sending me pictures of the new flogger, or informing me he bought new rope. I definitely think communication is so important in this type of relationship. 'R' tends to get frustrated with me because I am terrible at communicating my thoughts at times. Something I have learned I need to work on and have made great strides with.


I thought I would share this as this helped me to understand the very basic of what exactly bdsm is.
Secondly I realized how important is the responsibility of Dom to make sure of the well being of sub.
So my question is : What does A Dom do to ensure well being of their sub? Not just physical but mentally, emotionally too. And Oh, what is sub-drop?
Anyone is free to answer or ask :)


I think it depends on the Dom and what kind of relationship you have with that person. As with 'R' and I, after we have been intimate, it is 'R' who is cleaning up the wonderful mess we make, because I am normally too out of it to be able to do anything. Once he has cleaned up, we cuddle for a while, and he use to ask about how I felt with what just happened. But has learned to wait a few hours, before we discuss it. If 'R' can't spend the night we never get too rough with our intimate time. He likes to make sure he can be with me for a while after, incase I have questions about what just happened or I want to discuss something. Mentally and emotionally, 'R' always make sure to answer any questions I have, completely honestly. He also makes sure to let me know afterwards how proud he is of me and how I took what he gave me so well.

Especially after the first time, his Dom side really showed. I got completely lost in him and it was great, but at one point it got to be too much pleasure and it became overwhelming painful for me. I had to ask him to stop. Which he did, very willing, as any Dom should do when the Sub says to stop. He immediately cuddled me and discussed what happened, but I had no desire to at the time to discuss it. I was still in a sort of high, even though I had him stop. About 2 days later, I felt really crappy about having to make him stop. And worried that maybe I can't be in this world, and I wasn't good enough for him, and so many other things (Sub-Drop). When I finally went to 'R' about all this, he informed me that I should never feel terrible for asking him to stop. Communication is key. I have not really had a sub-drop since. There are some amazing threads in the library about Sub-Drop. Not everyone experiences them, and if you do communicate with whoever your Dom is.
 
For me, the draw is not knowing any better.
I'm not very experienced, and only just becoming aware there's a whole other side to sex and relationships. I'm naturally curious, open minded and a little bit introvert. The thought of being totally exposed and explored so intimately and psychologically is a massive turn on.
 
I m assuming that most of the people here may have been vanilla & have then come to embrace bdsm.

That's a bit like:"Most people may have been masturbating before they embraced intercourse."


I think there is already the first misconception.

Draw two partially overlapping circles, one with sex and one with relationship. Then you can sort activities in three areas:
Single, sex - masturbation
Relationship, sex - intercourse
Relationship, no sex - bicycling

Now, if you want to add BDSM, you draw a third circle, partially overlapping all the other areas. You don't replace the previous sex circle with another one. And then we are close to reality, where BDSM can be a part of the relationship, without sex; can be part of sex, without relationship and can be both.

How does switch work in monogamy?

Very much like you want to watch Honey Boo Boo and he wants to watch Zombieland. You either find:
- an official solution
- an unofficial solution
- no solution
- someone who also likes to watch Honey Boo Boo

How does a newbie over come their fear while being single?

I didn't know that being single is something to be afraid about.


~qp~
 
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