butters
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thanks, Boo. i'll pm them in case they missed this thread.
well, i've only been and gorn and dunnit
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thanks, Boo. i'll pm them in case they missed this thread.
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phewwwwwww I'm glad I'm not going completely senile !
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now there's something really funny - or at least it tickled my funny bone: when i took a look at 'the shape of the thing' this morning, where it says 'similar stories' to the right there was Strap-on Santa (by DecadentAngel) and Leash (by DeepGreenEyes)
hehehehe
and i put up another one that's already here the other day, but today i have subbed a brand new one i wrote this morning.
hehehehe
and i put up another one that's already here the other day, but today i have subbed a brand new one i wrote this morning.
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thanks for your help, annie
first poem submitted and pending.
Oooh I just saw this. Congrats and may you write and submit many more fine poems. (I know you will).
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Me too. I think your earlier post (and Friday AM's persistence) made me feel guilty for having posted repeatedly on the PFD threads. Must be an Irish (American) Catholic thing.
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I've dunnit too and it's all your fault 
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merci, Angeline - thanks for leaving me a comment, too, on the crafting.Oooh I just saw this. congrats and may you write and submit many more fine poems. (I know you will).
damned thing, i had to find a title for it and part of me still doesn't like that one. meh teehee, and don't we (ex in my case) catholic types do guilt and religious allusions just grand?
i'll go read your entry if it's through yet! yes, Friday's the one who put the pea under my mattress. let's blame him, lol.brilliant, annieI've dunnit too and it's all your fault
nah, not me .. it's all Friday's fault i will make a point of checking them out. maybe if we all start subbing again, together we can breathe a little life into the New Poems so as not to leave the likes of seannelson and cal y p, Friday and greenmountaineer hanging out there in the wind.
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okay, well i've just pm'd laurel with the sort of thing we're thinking about - suggesting that any proceeds, or at least some, might be donated to an adult-themed charity such as The Terrence Higgins Trust or breast/testicular cancer awareness/treatment .. that sort of thing.
since we have people here with editing experience, publishing know-how (layout) and so on, i think it's something we could probably put together ourselves to make things easier; however, there will have to be someone who decides which pieces will be included and which not - and that might well throw up 'issues' unless left to Laurel/Manu to determine.
I have put to her that we have truly good writers here whose work isn't always submitted or, when it is, receives a lack of votes that doesn't reflect their quality. I have proposed an anthology of assorted erotic/non top-end writes covering all aspects of what we do here, on the PB, ranging from the pithy to the sublime, the funny to the sharply felt ... the whole gamut.
As soon as Laurel lets me know her thoughts on the matter i'll pass them on to you guys.
In the meantime, do we have anyone else who might consider getting behind this financially, getting the ISBN etc... , though an e-publication would have to be a far less expensive route - just the setting up of some method of payment (if it's to be sold by download) and the hassles involved there?
I know we have enough poets and material to put out a very decent publication.
since we have people here with editing experience, publishing know-how (layout) and so on, i think it's something we could probably put together ourselves to make things easier; however, there will have to be someone who decides which pieces will be included and which not - and that might well throw up 'issues' unless left to Laurel/Manu to determine.
I have put to her that we have truly good writers here whose work isn't always submitted or, when it is, receives a lack of votes that doesn't reflect their quality. I have proposed an anthology of assorted erotic/non top-end writes covering all aspects of what we do here, on the PB, ranging from the pithy to the sublime, the funny to the sharply felt ... the whole gamut.
As soon as Laurel lets me know her thoughts on the matter i'll pass them on to you guys.
In the meantime, do we have anyone else who might consider getting behind this financially, getting the ISBN etc... , though an e-publication would have to be a far less expensive route - just the setting up of some method of payment (if it's to be sold by download) and the hassles involved there?
I know we have enough poets and material to put out a very decent publication.
I'm late to the discussion, but I thought I'd put my two centavos in. If we were to make an e-book for charity we should ask the site to make us a page to present it and host its download. Anyone could download for free but we'd have a 'Donate' button with information about said charity. A poetry e-book for sale with proceeds to charity most likely wouldn't make back the money spent on ISBN, copyright etc. which can be pricey.
It would be a page to present and download a book of poems from Literotica poets, but with all new poems never shared on the site or any other site. I don't know what the unifying idea would be, but I'd put in my time and effort for some sort of genuine collaborative collection, not just everyone putting in some poems they have laying around unpublished.
If the charity is breast and balls the theme can be love of body type of thing.
It would be a page to present and download a book of poems from Literotica poets, but with all new poems never shared on the site or any other site. I don't know what the unifying idea would be, but I'd put in my time and effort for some sort of genuine collaborative collection, not just everyone putting in some poems they have laying around unpublished.
If the charity is breast and balls the theme can be love of body type of thing.
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haha! That's cos I favourited your poem
- and other two are on my fav list too *snort* Chippy, have you ever heard of Webook?
I participated while back in a project on there and we actually got published.
(no, nuffink spicy
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not too late to the discussion at all! we've only just begun
so an e-book makes more sense financially? what's the difference, pricewise, in obtaining the copyright for an e over a print? is there any? i don't have a clue about this side of things, really, so it's just as well you and others here do. i was hoping you'd pipe up, with your insider knowledge
i don't know what others will feel about the all the poems never having appeared here, though i get the other sites part: they would still be 'new' to most eyes opting to download, and quality is the true bar, for me. there may be poets here having something of a dry spell who'd not automatically find they would be able to write new but might still have wonderful pieces on the forums hidden away that might benefit the reader if the were exposed. perhaps this is something Laurel needs to decide on, though i'm happy, personally, to write new.
i am also happy to put in time proof-reading and even hunting back through old pages to nominate lost poems for publication if it will help. oh. another thing: if this happens and it takes the form of an e-book, that will surely allow more leeway with the number of pieces we might include ... though we'd need to have a limit or there'd be a danger of it growing into an unwieldy monster.
not so sure about your idea for theme - it might exclude a lot of decent poetry that doesn't fit too well with it. maybe others would disagree with me. it's all just ideas right now. i suppose there could be various sections devoted to different themes under the one umbrella of whatever gets decided upon...
we need to wait to see what L says, but it's good to know there's support for this kind of venture amongst us here. once again, Friday was the instigator of the idea.
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ah, so you're to blamehaha! That's cos I favourited your poem
Chippy, have you ever heard of Webook?
I participated while back in a project on there and we actually got published.
(no, nuffink spicy
ty for favuritting it, lol.
no, i hadn't, meebs, but i have bookmarked their page. ta!
and grats! what was it called?
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ah, so you're to blame
ty for favuritting it, lol.
no, i hadn't, meebs, but i have bookmarked their page. ta!
and grats! what was it called?
teehee!
Muchly welcome
Erm... I'm sending you pm, it's rather private
not too late to the discussion at all! we've only just begun
so an e-book makes more sense financially? what's the difference, pricewise, in obtaining the copyright for an e over a print? is there any? i don't have a clue about this side of things, really, so it's just as well you and others here do. i was hoping you'd pipe up, with your insider knowledge
i don't know what others will feel about the all the poems never having appeared here, though i get the other sites part: they would still be 'new' to most eyes opting to download, and quality is the true bar, for me. there may be poets here having something of a dry spell who'd not automatically find they would be able to write new but might still have wonderful pieces on the forums hidden away that might benefit the reader if the were exposed. perhaps this is something Laurel needs to decide on, though i'm happy, personally, to write new.
i am also happy to put in time proof-reading and even hunting back through old pages to nominate lost poems for publication if it will help. oh. another thing: if this happens and it takes teh form of an e-book, that will surely allow more leeway with the number of pieces we might include ... though we'd need to have a limit or there'd be a danger of it growing into an unwieldy monster.
not so sure about your idea for theme - it might exclude a lot of decent poetry that doesn't fit too well with it. maybe others would disagree with me. it's all just ideas right now.
i suppose we need to wait to see what L says, but it's good to know there's support for this kind of venture amongst us here. once again, Friday was the instigator of the idea.
I thought the new poems and e-print itself could be worked on here in community, on poetry message board, as a Literotica product. ISBN, Library of Congress, copyright can easily run into the hundreds of dollars. The product could be put together and presented without any money spent, only the little space that the text would take up on Lit servers. Having it presented on Lit would be copyright protection enough for me. I already post my poems here. A hard copy version would be something to talk about in the future. Amazon and a few other companies have donation programs, whereas you can use their money transfer services cheaper for charity than a normal paypal 'Donate' on Kaptain Kitty's Komic site. Others can chime in on the ISBN thing, just my opinion. If it's a creative communal effort I'm in, if it's just a collection of poems previously posted, I'm less interested. 1201 and foehn wrote my two favorite Lit poems.
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i think the idea of it being a creative communal effort is the best idea
I read the new poems you've posted to your submissions page and thread. Are they brand new? Are you currently fertile, hitting on all cylinders in your word engine?
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imprint's brand new, as are the other little ones on the thread.
the crafting and the shape of the thing are on here and older
not written for a short while but yeah, these arrived over the past two days
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i think the idea of it being a creative communal effort is the best idea
As you've already blamed me for originating this idea, perhaps I should speak
I don't know much about the technicalities either, and I welcome anyone who can help with ideas and know-how. I'm more than happy to put my metaphorical shoulder (broad as it may be) to the wheel.However, I'm not so keen on the latest idea of getting new poems "to order" for a publication. My original suggestion came out of the knowledge that there are exceptional poets here whose work should be celebrated, and a lot of them do not visit the Forum or even know its there. An "original" collection would inevitably exclude them, and moreover would be too much like a Forum competition, which often generates surprises but is rarely the best work of the poets concerned.
If I may, I would like to suggest the following (assuming Laurel and Manu are agreeable, of course)--that we have a banner on the Forum andon the New Poems section of the site inviting the submission of 3 poems each for inclusion in an anthology. A lot of people won't respond, but if for reasons of space or quality some poets have to be excluded then I am happy to have that decided by the mods, if they are ok to do it: if not, then maybe an informal group of Forumees.
What do you think?
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If somebody is going to put something snotty on your poem, why don't they have to guts to put their name?!!
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well, i don't really know about the 'snotty' bit, but the why no name? some people feel they might be unfairly judged, perhaps, if they give a less favourable comment on a work that's getting pretty good responses. maybe ... really, though, they are free to speak their mind - different people like different stuff, and they might well have a way of improving the poem. which is why i asked for more info re personal feedback. i've not heard anything yet, but it's early days.
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merci, Angeline - thanks for leaving me a comment, too, on the crafting.
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My titles often suck, but I don't stress about it as some folks do. I figure that ee cummings and WB Yeats got to be two of my most favorite poets without ever even using poem titles (cept for first lines) that I know of, so what me worry? <alfred e newman emote>
I'm laboring away at this novel thing. Tzara is right it is really hard! I haven't even written a word of it yet, but I spend lots of time writing about it. I'm reading novels I like and thinking about why I like them (aka what are the devices and qualities that engage me as a reader). Then I think about my plot and characters and write my ideas down. I read some interview with John Irving where he talked about the architecture of a novel, and that's what I'm wrestling with now, trying to envision my characters more clearly and figure out what happens and why. I should probably start a thread about this in the story circle or AH, huh?
Some of us here published in a few volumes of a poetry journal called Barking Dogs, which another Lit poet published on Lulu.com. It's inexpensive but you have to do your own design (or take on the extra expense of hiring someone who does). But it's a pretty good deal there.
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Perhaps I was too subtle perhaps I should write about the full horror of growing up as an abused child ...... would that tittilate their taste buds give them something to wank over !!!!!!!!
I can think of only one or two poets who never visit the forum(or do so rarely) who have continued to post poems for more than weeks or a couple months(neither of those poets have been active in the last six months.) Why include a poet who happens to pop by for a few months during the collection stage and posts a flurry of poems? Do they represent the best of Literotica? And what's the point of including poets who haven't submitted or visited Lit since 2005, 2002?
The exceptional poets I've seen post new poems over at New Poems pretty much all venture over here for a minute or a year, as they're invited. The New Poems page rarely generates the best work from the poets who visit the Forum. If the idea is to generate traffic to the New Poems page, a collection isn't the best way to do that. A Lit book of new poems(not generated for the New Poems page, but for the collection) seems like the best way to show off Lit poets ie people who visit the website for more than a month and a few submitted poems.
