Why Conservatives Opt for Propaganda Over Reality

[dan_c00000]

When you follow the link, you get to an opinion piece from a left-wing site that is basing its remarks on yet another left wing blog.

When you go to the actual Pew report and poll...



Well, let us just say that some of the analysis presented is a bit imaginative in its reading between the lines with the key consistent partisan measure being 12% Democrat and 9% conservative.



Now add in the 3% greater number of Democrats and you have an even divide, something we already know.

Even worse mostly liberal and consistently liberal is 34%, mostly conservative and consistently conservative is 27% putting, as KO want to present it, the PROPAGANDA ball actually further into the other court with a 7% advantage to the Liberals.



Lies, damned lies and STATISTICS!

I enjoyed your "opinion" on that poll. Good thing, based on your logic, it isn't valid.

Anyway, what do you say to a study like this?

The conclusion: Sunday morning news shows do the most to help people learn about current events, while some outlets, especially Fox News, lead people to be even less informed than those who say they don’t watch any news at all.

Or are those just damned lies too?

 

[kbate]

Only Hogan got it right, Pew does not publish a single word about the veracity of Fox News reporting, or Drudge, or Limbaugh.

The study purports only to demonstrate the increasing polarization of politics, and media is one place where this is evident.

The blogger is (apparently) putting her own spin on which news outlets publish truth and which publish propaganda. I've been searching Pew and other sources, and have found no documents or studies (yet) on this topic.

All this study does is demonstrate that Conservatives tend to get their news primarily from Fox News and to a lesser extent from Drudge, Limbaugh, Hannity, Beck, and so on... while Liberals get their news from a greater range of sources.

It will take another study to determine whether Fox and Limbaugh put out more false stories and propaganda then MSNBC and The Daily Show.

 

[4est_4est_Gump]

Actually, not too long ago, I actually had FOX on in the background while I was doing some work from home on the computer. I get too distracted too easily when things are silent.

And I know this is purely anecdotal, but it is every bit as valid as the ad hominem-fest we have going on here.

She started watching and there was one of their usual segments with a lib and a con discussing an issue. She turned to me and said, I thought they only presented one point of view. I said no doll, that's the CBS Good Morning News that you watch. The closest they get to that is The Five which is based on the old network news model that we grew up with where the Sunday shows would have a panel of four Democrats and one Republican.

But on the good side for liberals and to their credit, when they are done with CBS, they can go to ABC and NPR and get the same exact story with the same exact slant and comforting format, but they are much smarter for having seen it three times followed up by reading about it in the NYTimes online...

 

[Saint Peter]

Gump had Fox on????

Wow. What a fucking surprise.

 

[RjThoughts]

Only Hogan got it right, Pew does not publish a single word about the veracity of Fox News reporting, or Drudge, or Limbaugh.

The study purports only to demonstrate the increasing polarization of politics, and media is one place where this is evident.

The blogger is (apparently) putting her own spin on which news outlets publish truth and which publish propaganda. I've been searching Pew and other sources, and have found no documents or studies (yet) on this topic.

All this study does is demonstrate that Conservatives tend to get their news primarily from Fox News and to a lesser extent from Drudge, Limbaugh, Hannity, Beck, and so on... while Liberals get their news from a greater range of sources.

It will take another study to determine whether Fox and Limbaugh put out more false stories and propaganda then MSNBC and The Daily Show.

You do realize that The Daily Show is a satire? It's a comedy. Unlike Limbaugh, Jon Stewart purposely plays up the news for giggles and shits and not tells untruths as facts.

 

[4est_4est_Gump]

Repeating for :kbate:

"But on the good side for liberals and to their credit, when they are done with CBS, they can go to ABC and NPR and get the same exact story with the same exact slant and comforting format, but they are much smarter for having seen it three times followed up by reading about it in the NYTimes online..."

Actually, this Libertarian does not get the bulk of his news from TV.

I start with the AP wires in the morning on the computer.

You have to admit, FOX has the hotties.

 

[Sean]

I've said it before and I'll say it again, all American TV news is crap. All of it.

 

[IrezumiKiss]

Gump had Fox on????

Wow. What a fucking surprise.

I kinda figured him for a music-in-the-background kinda guy.

Maybe that's too liberal-ish, though.

 

[RjThoughts]

Gump had Fox on????

Wow. What a fucking surprise.

He likes his "news" to have more sizzle than substance.

 

[4est_4est_Gump]

You do realize that The Daily Show is a satire? It's a comedy. Unlike Limbaugh, Jon Stewart purposely plays up the news for giggles and shits and not tells untruths as facts.

Limbaugh is an entertainer, commentator and comedian.

You know what I find disturbing? After the virtual lynching of Ray Rice over domestic violence and and how his career had to end amid all of the left-wing outrage fueled in a large part by their news media, when Bristol Palin was savagely beaten, the same news sources, who would have done themselves a favor by letting it pass uncommented on, took a fucking victory lap and celebrated her beating.

Does FOX news do that? They employ a lot more of the people who used to be in the liberal alphabet media than the converse.

 

[AllyRose]

Rush isn't a comedian. He's a joke.

 

[Saint Peter]

Poor Ray Rice. Having to slap that bitch around and drag her by the hair out of the elevator without his fancy football glove on.


I hope his knuckles are alright.

 

[RjThoughts]

Limbaugh is an entertainer, commentator and comedian.

You know what I find disturbing? After the virtual lynching of Ray Rice over domestic violence and and how his career had to end amid all of the left-wing outrage fueled in a large part by their news media, when Bristol Palin was savagely beaten, the same news sources, who would have done themselves a favor by letting it pass uncommented on, took a fucking victory lap and celebrated her beating.

Does FOX news do that? They employ a lot more of the people who used to be in the liberal alphabet media than the converse.

Comedian? No, he's not. He tries to hide his misogyny behind the see-through veil of satire. Guess what? It does not work, never has.

 

[4est_4est_Gump]

Rush isn't a comedian. He's a joke.

I fell the same way about the stars on the Left who only think they're funny when they're doing Willow Palin rape jokes.

I don't see why being mean is funny. That's why I never liked Don Rickles or Joan Rivers but liked Bill Cosby and George Carlin.

 

[KingOrfeo]

Only Hogan got it right, Pew does not publish a single word about the veracity of Fox News reporting, or Drudge, or Limbaugh.

The study purports only to demonstrate the increasing polarization of politics, and media is one place where this is evident.

The blogger is (apparently) putting her own spin on which news outlets publish truth and which publish propaganda. I've been searching Pew and other sources, and have found no documents or studies (yet) on this topic.

All this study does is demonstrate that Conservatives tend to get their news primarily from Fox News and to a lesser extent from Drudge, Limbaugh, Hannity, Beck, and so on... while Liberals get their news from a greater range of sources.

It will take another study to determine whether Fox and Limbaugh put out more false stories and propaganda then MSNBC and The Daily Show.

Done; see post #51.

 

[RjThoughts]

I fell the same way about the stars on the Left who only think they're funny when they're doing Willow Palin rape jokes.

I don't see why being mean is funny. That's why I never liked Don Rickles or Joan Rivers but liked Bill Cosby and George Carlin.

But you find Rush a comedian? That's a good one

 

[4est_4est_Gump]

Comedian? No, he's not. He tries to hide his misogyny behind the see-through veil of satire. Guess what? It does not work, never has.

I know. I get it. You're one of those people who know it when they see it.

You're one of the 14% of the Nation who suddenly think the Redskins is a racist trademark because it suddenly blew up in the media you pay attention to, the never-ending crusade for "civil rights" and Social Justice.

But I do not see you guys calling for justice over a man beating the crap out of a woman.

I think that is a political stance. She deserved it. Her mom was a Republican.

Not to mention she was incredibly stupid.

They should all be beaten.

Right?

 

[4est_4est_Gump]

But you find Rush a comedian? That's a good one

It was a rebuttal to the idea that he is news. That was in response to the claim that Jon Stewart (not his real name), is not a newsman.

The point that some of you want to make is that conservatives get their news for Rush Limbaugh while trying to deny that any liberal gets their impression of the news from Stewart's "political comedy."

Of course they do.

I just pointed out the inconsistency in belief.

 

[RjThoughts]

I know. I get it. You're one of those people who know it when they see it.

You're one of the 14% of the Nation who suddenly think the Redskins is a racist trademark because it suddenly blew up in the media you pay attention to, the never-ending crusade for "civil rights" and Social Justice.

But I do not see you guys calling for justice over a man beating the crap out of a woman.

I think that is a political stance. She deserved it. Her mom was a Republican.

Not to mention she was incredibly stupid.

They should all be beaten.

Right?

What the fuck are you ranting about? I don't condone ANY rape jokes, from the left or the right. That's just sick and you're a dumb fuck for even suggesting I do.

 

[DooleyDarter]

Example of GOP's "reality", as shown by Ted Cruz's Deputy Chief of Staff:

Well is that a true statement or not?

 

[RjThoughts]

Well is that a true statement or not?

The implication is that Obamacare caused it.
The good part of the ACA is that Ebola illness is covered!

 

[RobDownSouth]

Well is that a true statement or not?

It's a classic ad hoc debate technique, combining two disparate statements together with the insinuation that one is somehow responsible for the other. It's not technically a logical fallacy, as such, it has tremendous appeal for the Vettemen and Dooley Darters of the world.

 

[kbate]

Done; see post #51.

That isn't necessarily an accurate study (as it covers such a limited group and asks so few questions) and it does not indicate anything about propaganda. It might indicate something about content, as in Fox may not report on some topics while NPR and others do.

You might also note that Liberal haven MSNBC scored as badly as Fox in that study.

 

[AllyRose]

I love some of the twitter comments. 'Before Obamacare I never had a papercut. Impeach!'

 

[domroger]

Example of GOP's "reality", as shown by Ted Cruz's Deputy Chief of Staff:

Damn .He looks like the chief prick in Animal House .