elfin_odalisque
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Why does some perverted guy always have to stick an unwanted and irrelevant oar into a sensible thread?
Why is some feedback so nasty?
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make_some_noise
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I've really got a grip today thanks to all your helpful comments. I'm quite new to writing, I've got my own style (like we all have) and only I can write my story the way I do. So if a handful of ignorant trolls don't like it, too bad! The positive comments are outweighing the negative now. Any comments or emails with constructive criticism are fine as they can only help to better the writing but just plain nasty ones, I'm not taking any notice of those any more! Its true that as they say in Britain there are "different strokes for different folks". Everyone likes something different and you can't please all of the people all of the time. The advice on writing for you and not the reviews is really good advice. As is letting the negative comments wash over you unless they are constructive and letting the positive ones make you realise you have got a talent worth showing the world. Cheers guys.
sweetsubsarahh - I read your link and you've been there yourself so thanks for your really helpful comments, you're great!
elfin_odalisque - thanks for everything, I've changed the public comments to enabled so if you still want to leave a message, you can. And I promise you the British policemen soon!
starscape - i only had time to read part one of your story but I liked it. Great advice from everyone on categories eh? Mine was in erotic couplings not loving wives in fact but with some of the comments you'd think it was! Still it doesn't matter any more, we both wrote great first stories, here's to the next ones! x
sweetsubsarahh - I read your link and you've been there yourself so thanks for your really helpful comments, you're great!
elfin_odalisque - thanks for everything, I've changed the public comments to enabled so if you still want to leave a message, you can. And I promise you the British policemen soon!
starscape - i only had time to read part one of your story but I liked it. Great advice from everyone on categories eh? Mine was in erotic couplings not loving wives in fact but with some of the comments you'd think it was! Still it doesn't matter any more, we both wrote great first stories, here's to the next ones! x
elfin_odalisque
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Cheers girlie, and I'm back to leave a comment.
Sticking yourself out in the public eye opens you out to all sorts of dark forces.
To the two of you, keep writing and keep coming here. We are a bit of a support wing and we never troll.
Elle
Yes, you can change categories.
Resubmit the story - put EDITED after the title. Change the category and in the NOTES field request that the category be changed.
It'll probably take the same amount of time as a newly submitted story.
Thanks to you both for the input. I went ahead and resubmitted it to Erotic Couplings.
Hee hee, this thread is pretty funny.
Definitely going to have to add my own contribution. Maybe it'll make me feel better. Thanks, make_some_noise, for your support. I enjoyed your story very much as well and voted accordingly.
What a nice way to cool off on a hot summer day. Mmm. 
As a reader, I tend to stick toward of my categories of interest, but from the sounds of it it would do me well as a writer to read quite a bit from each category in order to better gauge where stories will be best received.
Thanks for the encouragement.
I definitely think I'll be sticking around for a while and I do have some more stories rolling around my brain yet.
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Stroke your ego? Happily.
I thought it was a great story.
And can you make it a policeman and a policewoman?
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LadynStFreknBed
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I always take it as a compliment if a reader mistakes my story for truth. To me, it means that my writing was totally believable. For example, after I post a foot fetish story, I always get feedback containing a request to discuss my foot fetish. (I don't have one.)
Another common misconception is that writers on Literotica are paid. No writer is paid unless they win a contest. Yet, I've gotten comments criticizing "profiting from" my stories. Anyone thinking that the writers here are paid are going to have higher expectations for what they read.
Another common misconception is that writers on Literotica are paid. No writer is paid unless they win a contest. Yet, I've gotten comments criticizing "profiting from" my stories. Anyone thinking that the writers here are paid are going to have higher expectations for what they read.
elfin_odalisque
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Aw, it's like pretending Santa doesn't exist. We all hang around here waiting to be given the kind of gazillion dollar contract that Scouries has for being a limp dick.
Next you'll be saying you don't believe in fairies.
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Aw, it's like pretending Santa doesn't exist. We all hang around here waiting to be given the kind of gazillion dollar contract that Scouries has for being a limp dick.
Next you'll be saying you don't believe in fairies.
Don't be ridiculous! Of course, I believe in fairies. Coincidentally, fairies were my subject for my poem today in the "30 poems in 30 days" thread in the Poetry Feedback & Discussion forum.
Sheila
Like others have said, some people r just jealous. Others like to play mind games and get off on trying to upset you. One of my recent stories someone called me a 15 year old,which bothers me not at all since I do think like one. And the story wasn't erotic at all with no redeeming qualities what so ever. Yet they read the whole story and is got a decent rating. Another person was very helpful and pointed out some things I need help with.
If I was writing to get better I would defiantly take them up on their suggestions. But I write for my enjoyment not the readers. Because if you can't make yourself happy how can you make someone else?
Just write the way you want to write. If you want to get better take the helpful people's suggestions and apply them. If your like me and are just writing for you own amusment don't worry about what others say.
If I was writing to get better I would defiantly take them up on their suggestions. But I write for my enjoyment not the readers. Because if you can't make yourself happy how can you make someone else?
Just write the way you want to write. If you want to get better take the helpful people's suggestions and apply them. If your like me and are just writing for you own amusment don't worry about what others say.
Some readers just want to turn you off posting
As the author of Colour, Contrast & Conundrum a new posting which has already received boht good and foul comments. I have to make comment on the feedback system and how it contrasts with the prime reason for this erotic website. Surely, the way the site is sub-divided into genre the reader has the knowledge of the subject matter and therefore feedback of a negative nature should concern the plot, narrative and written skills presented in the piece. I'm making no comparison of my writing skills with those of the professional sphere but I do recognise that most of this spiteful and derogative comment is directed at the particular genre, the characters and me as a writer and ignoring the story. Let's be honest I couldn't have gone further to put off people whom are upset at any mention of sex, especially the type that takes place outside of what they see as being sanctified by their God. But my question is why are they reading the work in the first place? I can only think that it is because they wish to dampen the excitement that a writer has when they see in print other people enjoying their work. Nevertheless, I write for myself and for others that might enjoy. My one hope is that by wasting their time reading something that obviously offends them, they miss the chance to do something really worthy in their lives. I hope that misery continues to reign for them. My advice to all those who post their fantasies is, 'understand that some individuals and groups actively seek to turn you away from posting your story', just ignore them.
As the author of Colour, Contrast & Conundrum a new posting which has already received boht good and foul comments. I have to make comment on the feedback system and how it contrasts with the prime reason for this erotic website. Surely, the way the site is sub-divided into genre the reader has the knowledge of the subject matter and therefore feedback of a negative nature should concern the plot, narrative and written skills presented in the piece. I'm making no comparison of my writing skills with those of the professional sphere but I do recognise that most of this spiteful and derogative comment is directed at the particular genre, the characters and me as a writer and ignoring the story. Let's be honest I couldn't have gone further to put off people whom are upset at any mention of sex, especially the type that takes place outside of what they see as being sanctified by their God. But my question is why are they reading the work in the first place? I can only think that it is because they wish to dampen the excitement that a writer has when they see in print other people enjoying their work. Nevertheless, I write for myself and for others that might enjoy. My one hope is that by wasting their time reading something that obviously offends them, they miss the chance to do something really worthy in their lives. I hope that misery continues to reign for them. My advice to all those who post their fantasies is, 'understand that some individuals and groups actively seek to turn you away from posting your story', just ignore them.
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hmmnmm
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I didn't read the responses thus far, so if what I say has already been said, then just take it as reinforcement.
It happens. Just does. People, all kinds of people with free access, who can say whatever they want at no threat to them. It threw me for awhile. It did. Wondered why? Why the venom? What did I do to them? They could probably tell when they began reading that they wouldn't like it, so why did they read it and go through the effort of telling me how much it sucked? And with the motivation being little more than juvenile level spite. Like driving along and bashing mailboxes. Why me? Doesn't matter. It wasn't you. They're just pricks. Who knows what's driving them. What machinery grinds in their minds. You really can't do anything about their existence because they propagate at such high rates and numbers.
So what you have to do is take measures to prevent them from getting to you.
Here's what I do/did. Apply or not as it suits.
I have other interests. People and projects and loves that are equally satisfying. In my case, it would be the guitar, photography, my dog, my wife, writing other things, enjoying life itself. Writing a successfully received story for Literotica is not an all-consuming labor. It's sort of a dabble here dabble there. Throw pieces out there if something seems close enough for now. You know you can always go back and touch it up. Or you can remove it, mess with it, put it back. I even lately took one down, tinkered, changed the title, put it back, spread it around different categories. Didn't give it much thought. Got a few nice comments, and got some not so nice comments. I was actually able to send a cosmic smile of gratitude to the former, and shrug off a 'whatever' with the latter. It's a great feeling. It wasn't always. Took awhile to get to this stage.
The other: I picture myself and the person with the unflattering intention in the same room. I'm sitting at the table, sipping coffee, reading the paper, taking it easy, the day is divine, all is well. The other person approaches me and with an evil grin, he rubs his hands together in glee. A sneer appears on his face. He says, "your story sucked!" A hearty malicious laugh.
I barely glance from my paper, sip from my coffee cup, acknowledge him. I say, "Oh. I see." And return to the paper.
He's seething. It didn't work. He's more upset than I. He tries again. "I voted your story a 1!" The malicious laughter again. Louder.
This time I don't even bother to look up. Just nod as I smile at a funny editorial or comic. Offhandedly say, "Oh. Okay."
He just goes nuts. Disappears in a puff of smoke. I stretch and sigh, prepare for another fantastic day.
Give it a try. It works for me.
Cheers!
It happens. Just does. People, all kinds of people with free access, who can say whatever they want at no threat to them. It threw me for awhile. It did. Wondered why? Why the venom? What did I do to them? They could probably tell when they began reading that they wouldn't like it, so why did they read it and go through the effort of telling me how much it sucked? And with the motivation being little more than juvenile level spite. Like driving along and bashing mailboxes. Why me? Doesn't matter. It wasn't you. They're just pricks. Who knows what's driving them. What machinery grinds in their minds. You really can't do anything about their existence because they propagate at such high rates and numbers.
So what you have to do is take measures to prevent them from getting to you.
Here's what I do/did. Apply or not as it suits.
I have other interests. People and projects and loves that are equally satisfying. In my case, it would be the guitar, photography, my dog, my wife, writing other things, enjoying life itself. Writing a successfully received story for Literotica is not an all-consuming labor. It's sort of a dabble here dabble there. Throw pieces out there if something seems close enough for now. You know you can always go back and touch it up. Or you can remove it, mess with it, put it back. I even lately took one down, tinkered, changed the title, put it back, spread it around different categories. Didn't give it much thought. Got a few nice comments, and got some not so nice comments. I was actually able to send a cosmic smile of gratitude to the former, and shrug off a 'whatever' with the latter. It's a great feeling. It wasn't always. Took awhile to get to this stage.
The other: I picture myself and the person with the unflattering intention in the same room. I'm sitting at the table, sipping coffee, reading the paper, taking it easy, the day is divine, all is well. The other person approaches me and with an evil grin, he rubs his hands together in glee. A sneer appears on his face. He says, "your story sucked!" A hearty malicious laugh.
I barely glance from my paper, sip from my coffee cup, acknowledge him. I say, "Oh. I see." And return to the paper.
He's seething. It didn't work. He's more upset than I. He tries again. "I voted your story a 1!" The malicious laughter again. Louder.
This time I don't even bother to look up. Just nod as I smile at a funny editorial or comic. Offhandedly say, "Oh. Okay."
He just goes nuts. Disappears in a puff of smoke. I stretch and sigh, prepare for another fantastic day.
Give it a try. It works for me.
Cheers!
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hmmnmm
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Another way to look at it:
If a human being somewhere out there finds it the highlight of their day's existence to issue what they apparently assume will be an ego-deflation message of disapproval, and when it is clear the message is not sent to help but to hurt, this is a human who really should not be taken too seriously.
Hm. That didn't come out quite right... Now I'm overwriting. The horror.
If a human being somewhere out there finds it the highlight of their day's existence to issue what they apparently assume will be an ego-deflation message of disapproval, and when it is clear the message is not sent to help but to hurt, this is a human who really should not be taken too seriously.
Hm. That didn't come out quite right... Now I'm overwriting. The horror.
mummys dirty angel
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Don't take the criticism to heart. Some readers have nothing better to do than slate the hard work of author's. I swear half the time they get a tad guilty about getting a 'hard on' about something that goes against the grain of their sexuality, then take it out on the author with their vitriolic comments!
I used to get upset when I received such drivel, but now I tend to laugh it off...
I did get this through my inbox a little while back... "People in England are fucked up! Must be the in-breeding." I take it, whoever sent it, didn't like what I write about...
Don't let it deter you, and keep writing
I used to get upset when I received such drivel, but now I tend to laugh it off...
I did get this through my inbox a little while back... "People in England are fucked up! Must be the in-breeding." I take it, whoever sent it, didn't like what I write about...
Don't let it deter you, and keep writing
Look at it this way, it takes some time and energy for someone to comment of your story. Whether it's good or bad, they invested something into it. I get disappointed when no one comments on my story. Then I feel like I haven't affected anyone. Be good or monumentally bad, but to be mediocre is death!
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Because some people are nasty!
Look at it this way, if someone is willing to slag what you've done, then , more often than not, be "Anonymous" about it, don't even waste pity on them. They do thrive in the "Loving Wives" section, and they seem to be unable to understand that Literotica is a collection of FICTIONAL erotic stories, submitted without compensation. Don't let it eat you up, just know that the nasty things they write are probably the only things that they are capable of writing. Now I'll sit back and watch my ratings drop, like they always do after commenting on those pathetic trolls......
By the way, your story was good, keep writing what is inside you.....
Northsider
Look at it this way, if someone is willing to slag what you've done, then , more often than not, be "Anonymous" about it, don't even waste pity on them. They do thrive in the "Loving Wives" section, and they seem to be unable to understand that Literotica is a collection of FICTIONAL erotic stories, submitted without compensation. Don't let it eat you up, just know that the nasty things they write are probably the only things that they are capable of writing. Now I'll sit back and watch my ratings drop, like they always do after commenting on those pathetic trolls......
By the way, your story was good, keep writing what is inside you.....
Northsider
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I have received some really nasty comments too and they used to bother me but not anymore.
One of my stories on Literotica, Father Confesses, is about a father basically raping his daughter and I wrote it in the first person like he was actually confessing to the deed.
People have gone completely bonkers on that one with their comments. They don't seem to grasp that it is a work of fiction and I am actually female with no children.
Just keep writing and ignore the nasty comments. They are usually posted by people who don't have a clue anyway.
And don't forget my favorite advice: Mediocrity condemns excellence.
One of my stories on Literotica, Father Confesses, is about a father basically raping his daughter and I wrote it in the first person like he was actually confessing to the deed.
People have gone completely bonkers on that one with their comments. They don't seem to grasp that it is a work of fiction and I am actually female with no children.
Just keep writing and ignore the nasty comments. They are usually posted by people who don't have a clue anyway.
And don't forget my favorite advice: Mediocrity condemns excellence.
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I have two stories on Lit.
The first elicited public comments, the second did not. Both gave private comments.
The first public comment was rude, but so funny I openly laughed when I read it. I was they had had the balls to give their name instead of remaining anonymous, I would have mailed them my thanks!
Those who have said mediocrity is worse, are right
Enjoy all the comments, good or bad. Take them for what they are, comments.
The first elicited public comments, the second did not. Both gave private comments.
The first public comment was rude, but so funny I openly laughed when I read it. I was they had had the balls to give their name instead of remaining anonymous, I would have mailed them my thanks!
Those who have said mediocrity is worse, are right
Enjoy all the comments, good or bad. Take them for what they are, comments.
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If you ain't pissin' someone off...
you ain't doin' much.
Seriously. I learned this when I was doing stand-up comedy. I took the challenge of "there is no joke you can tell that won't offend somebody" and did a solid 15 minute bit of me as a loser.
Two women came up to me after the show to let me know that they didn't like the fact that I was so down on myself and they didn't appreciate my style of self-depreciating humor.
You can't please everybody.
you ain't doin' much.
Seriously. I learned this when I was doing stand-up comedy. I took the challenge of "there is no joke you can tell that won't offend somebody" and did a solid 15 minute bit of me as a loser.
Two women came up to me after the show to let me know that they didn't like the fact that I was so down on myself and they didn't appreciate my style of self-depreciating humor.
You can't please everybody.
sr71plt
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I trust you looked at the floor and shuffled your feet and agreed that you were dirty and rotten--just to see if they got the joke.
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To me, criticism or constructive criticism is only as valuable as the thought put into it. An empty compliment is just as worthless as empty criticism...although an empty compliment is much more palatable.
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I do believe I just got my first negative feedback today. Though, I think a more suitable word would be 'confusing'. (For me, anyway.)
I currently have two stories in Literotica's Halloween Contest. Both of them are Exhibitionist/Voyeur. I got some private and -- how surprising -- anonymous feedback saying:
I kind of laughed, shrugged my shouders and closed the window. Didn't know what to make of it. Ironically, the story is, stat wise, the best rated one I have so far.
I embrace both. I know this thread has been up for a while but to any of you who take the negativity to heart, don't. Keep writing for your readers and for yourself.
I currently have two stories in Literotica's Halloween Contest. Both of them are Exhibitionist/Voyeur. I got some private and -- how surprising -- anonymous feedback saying:
I kind of laughed, shrugged my shouders and closed the window. Didn't know what to make of it. Ironically, the story is, stat wise, the best rated one I have so far.
I embrace both. I know this thread has been up for a while but to any of you who take the negativity to heart, don't. Keep writing for your readers and for yourself.
sr71plt
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I do believe I just got my first negative feedback today. Though, I think a more suitable word would be 'confusing'. (For me, anyway.)
I currently have two stories in Literotica's Halloween Contest. Both of them are Exhibitionist/Voyeur. I got some private and -- how surprising -- anonymous feedback saying:
I kind of laughed, shrugged my shouders and closed the window. Didn't know what to make of it. Ironically, the story is, stat wise, the best rated one I have so far.
I embrace both. I know this thread has been up for a while but to any of you who take the negativity to heart, don't. Keep writing for your readers and for yourself.
Neither has to say "sex." They both very much say "erotic," which is what this Web site is all about.
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Not exactly. I'd love to say that we got into a fight that ended in a threeway night of passion too but sadly no. My inner smartass took over and I lambasted them on the spot for being so insensitive to my craft and skill as to critique it to my face and be so ignorant as to not be able to recognize my brand of humor as the mirror held to society to reflect it's imperfections and problems and if they weren't ready to work within society they needed to stay home and watch more Arsino Hall until they learned how to behave as an audience.
Or fairly close to that. Hecklers I could handle, the perpetual victim types drove me out of my mind.
