Firing Guns Causes Brain Damage.

[Lazaran]

Interesting report on 60 Minutes tonight that chronicles the effects of blast overpressure on the brains of individuals who frequently fire guns:

https://www.cbsnews.com/amp/news/veteran-traumatic-brain-injury-60-minutes/

The key lines from the report:

"And with the explosion comes the formation of something called the blast wave," Perl told 60 Minutes. "And it is sufficiently powerful to pass through the skull and through the brain."

“Perl found scarring in Ryan Larkin's brain, but there was one big difference: Ryan had not been hit by a roadside bomb. Most of what he endured was low-level, repeated shocks from his own weapons, like a large caliber rifle notorious for leaving gunners dizzy.”



That ^ explains soooooo much, and it is yet another argument in favor of gun control legislation.

There are likely MILLIONS of gun "aficionados" who NEVER EVEN served in the military who are suffering from the type of brain damage outlined in the report: Gun "aficionados" who are armed to the teeth and waiting to have that “one bad day”. (Looks at Wat, etc.)

Something definitely needs to be done about the brain damaged ticking time bombs that are the gun “aficionados". (Looks at Wat, etc, again).

At the very least, gun "aficionados" should have their brains scanned to see if they’re mentally / psychologically compromised. (Looks at Wat, etc, again.)



Also:

We. Told. Them. So.

 

[Bray123]

Do guns cause brain damage, or does brain damage make people get guns?

Chickens/eggs.

 

[lovecraft68]

Burning Teslas will get you 20 years.

I'll take my chances at the range.

 

[Boat1]

Interesting report on 60 Minutes tonight that chronicles the effects of blast overpressure on the brains of individuals who frequently fire guns:

https://www.cbsnews.com/amp/news/veteran-traumatic-brain-injury-60-minutes/

The key lines from the report:

"And with the explosion comes the formation of something called the blast wave," Perl told 60 Minutes. "And it is sufficiently powerful to pass through the skull and through the brain."

“Perl found scarring in Ryan Larkin's brain, but there was one big difference: Ryan had not been hit by a roadside bomb. Most of what he endured was low-level, repeated shocks from his own weapons, like a large caliber rifle notorious for leaving gunners dizzy.”



That ^ explains soooooo much, and it is yet another argument in favor of gun control legislation.

There are likely MILLIONS of gun "aficionados" who NEVER EVEN served in the military who are suffering from the type of brain damage outlined in the report: Gun "aficionados" who are armed to the teeth and waiting to have that “one bad day”. (Looks at Wat, etc.)

Something definitely needs to be done about the brain damaged ticking time bombs that are the gun “aficionados". (Looks at Wat, etc, again).

At the very least, gun "aficionados" should have their brains scanned to see if they’re mentally / psychologically compromised. (Looks at Wat, etc, again.)



Also:

We. Told. Them. So.

Consider the source of the report and watch this man. He shoots 200,000+ rounds a year and has for DECADE'S.
He's STILL sharp as a tack.

Also, note that he's shooting a REVOLVER!
Remember that when you attack semiautomatic weapons.
Many people have a lot to learn about firearms

 

[subdudeme13]

Consider the source of the report and watch this man. He shoots 200,000+ rounds a year and has for DECADE'S.
He's STILL sharp as a tack.

Also, note that he's shooting a REVOLVER!
Remember that when you attack semiautomatic weapons.
Many people have a lot to learn about firearms

I don't have a problem with CBS. Noise will cause you to go deaf at a minimum and I see the guy in the picture is wearing ear protection. There is concrete medical evidence that football players suffer brain damage.

U.S. Marines who fired artillery rounds against ISIS in Syria experienced mysterious, life-altering mental and physical problems, including symptoms potentially related to traumatic brain injuries (TBIs) from blast exposure, with some receiving diagnoses of TBI. Also Google Robert Card.

I used to shoot a lot of skeet and never wore ear protection, back in the day. Dr. said that is probably why I have tinnitus. Now go get spanked .

 

[Sean Renaud]

Burning Teslas will get you 20 years.

I'll take my chances at the range.

IT probably won't get you 20 years and given what happened with J6 it official in America that if you commit a crime for political reasons a president of you party obligated to get you off. Thems the rules! I normally wouldn't lead with this but I do have to start here this time on this subject because its important. As with almost everything this is so much worse on the side of the Republicans than it is on the Democrats. At least Dems don't as a rule don't try to go all virtue signaling and hype of the military and vets. They pay respect of course but the right uses us as props and fuck all that. I'm past tired of "Thank you for your service."

So let me start with I've never (or if I have I've long since forgotten) had any issues wit Laz at all. So I apologize and you do possess at least one or two "Get out of jail free" cards even if you are burning one here. Fuck you for parading out a suicidal vet to further a political cause. That is fucked up. I'm not going to discuss suicide at this moment other than to let people know that I do know what its like to stand on the edge of that precipice and know how simple it would be to just slip into the dark and not climb out because it wouldn't make any difference. Sucks but there it is. The focus here should be at least in part on not just the physical damage but also the emotional damage that life does to you. I will get back to the fuck you part later.

This isn't about guns make you stupid. Its about if your job being around firearms, not just yours five days a week for however many hours a day. I'm not going to guess because every MOS is different and even within the same MOS the amount of actual time put in can vary greatly. I'm sure there are people who genuinely do shoot every day or at least most days but those are such outliers I'm not sure there is any reason to put too much stock in a minority THAT small.

Here is a six minute video that sums up the scenario here a bit.

He had a very specific problem so I am not blaming the VA but we as a nation MUST pay closer attention to our military, vets and for you first responders i, Sean Renaud uses all his E4 status and clout to bestow upon thee honorary members of the Vet tribe. You're suicide rates are trash just like ours and nobody talks about it.

This father is someone who the Left should have started talking to in the lead up to the 2024 election. Harris should have sworn she would flood the field with improvements to Veterans lives with an emphasis on mental, transitioning back to civilian life which is different for everybody and for many isn't as easy. This isn't like leaving your job after 4-20 years with most being lower than the 10 year mark. I won't bother looking up how many go past twenty years though. This is like leaving your family and even if you've had more than one family they are always a part of you.

We should take special mention to remind people that Trump and Musk are all about cutting cutting via finding waste, fraud and abuse and vowed not to touch the military without which there is no way to get even most of the way to the claimed numbers of roughly two trillion dollars and i will be sticking with that number.

The facts however is that despite being tied entirely to the military the the Department of Veteran Affairs is its own thing. Trump could easily devastate the VA and still keep to his word and that is the last thing we should be cutting. That should be the focus for a moment here, we have no idea what this could affect both long and short term.

The Right is talking about waste, fruad and abuse. Does anybody think that a party who speaks about that is going to be interested in running test and tracking vets for years on just how life treats them with no clear parameters is going to pass that muster? I don't see that as probable.

End of the day there are real problems, guns are a real problem but these are several issues and if your take away from a soldier deteriorating before the eyes of his family. A man fucked in the head but had enough their to know he was damaged and damaged in a physic way that was affecting his mental health is guns can make you dumb. That's probably the stupidest take I'll get today about guns. Or it would have been if some moron hadn't followed it up with burning Teslas will get you trouble so they would rather go shooting.

I do appreciate the article but I cannot let using damaged vets as a prop to fight against guns is a very special kind of a scummy move. Holy fuck is that messed up in ways I don't really have words for. In the words of US's first porn star First Lady 'Be best.'.

 

[LLCox]

Listening to internet morons is what gives people brain damage.

 

[Sean Renaud]

Listening to internet morons is what gives people brain damage.

Far less than our ancestors who listening street corner morons.

 

[Lazaran]

Consider the source of the report and watch this man. He shoots 200,000+ rounds a year and has for DECADE'S.
He's STILL sharp as a tack.

Also, note that he's shooting a REVOLVER!
Remember that when you attack semiautomatic weapons.
Many people have a lot to learn about firearms

The report revealed what it revealed.

Take from it what you will.

Getting defensive about the revelation that repeated firing of guns causes brain damage is a YOU problem. (YOU might want to have that checked out…)



Also:

We. Told. Them. So.

 

[Lazaran]

IT probably won't get you 20 years and given what happened with J6 it official in America that if you commit a crime for political reasons a president of you party obligated to get you off. Thems the rules! I normally wouldn't lead with this but I do have to start here this time on this subject because its important. As with almost everything this is so much worse on the side of the Republicans than it is on the Democrats. At least Dems don't as a rule don't try to go all virtue signaling and hype of the military and vets. They pay respect of course but the right uses us as props and fuck all that. I'm past tired of "Thank you for your service."

So let me start with I've never (or if I have I've long since forgotten) had any issues wit Laz at all. So I apologize and you do possess at least one or two "Get out of jail free" cards even if you are burning one here. Fuck you for parading out a suicidal vet to further a political cause. That is fucked up. I'm not going to discuss suicide at this moment other than to let people know that I do know what its like to stand on the edge of that precipice and know how simple it would be to just slip into the dark and not climb out because it wouldn't make any difference. Sucks but there it is. The focus here should be at least in part on not just the physical damage but also the emotional damage that life does to you. I will get back to the fuck you part later.

This isn't about guns make you stupid. Its about if your job being around firearms, not just yours five days a week for however many hours a day. I'm not going to guess because every MOS is different and even within the same MOS the amount of actual time put in can vary greatly. I'm sure there are people who genuinely do shoot every day or at least most days but those are such outliers I'm not sure there is any reason to put too much stock in a minority THAT small.

Here is a six minute video that sums up the scenario here a bit.

He had a very specific problem so I am not blaming the VA but we as a nation MUST pay closer attention to our military, vets and for you first responders i, Sean Renaud uses all his E4 status and clout to bestow upon thee honorary members of the Vet tribe. You're suicide rates are trash just like ours and nobody talks about it.

This father is someone who the Left should have started talking to in the lead up to the 2024 election. Harris should have sworn she would flood the field with improvements to Veterans lives with an emphasis on mental, transitioning back to civilian life which is different for everybody and for many isn't as easy. This isn't like leaving your job after 4-20 years with most being lower than the 10 year mark. I won't bother looking up how many go past twenty years though. This is like leaving your family and even if you've had more than one family they are always a part of you.

We should take special mention to remind people that Trump and Musk are all about cutting cutting via finding waste, fraud and abuse and vowed not to touch the military without which there is no way to get even most of the way to the claimed numbers of roughly two trillion dollars and i will be sticking with that number.

The facts however is that despite being tied entirely to the military the the Department of Veteran Affairs is its own thing. Trump could easily devastate the VA and still keep to his word and that is the last thing we should be cutting. That should be the focus for a moment here, we have no idea what this could affect both long and short term.

The Right is talking about waste, fruad and abuse. Does anybody think that a party who speaks about that is going to be interested in running test and tracking vets for years on just how life treats them with no clear parameters is going to pass that muster? I don't see that as probable.

End of the day there are real problems, guns are a real problem but these are several issues and if your take away from a soldier deteriorating before the eyes of his family. A man fucked in the head but had enough their to know he was damaged and damaged in a physic way that was affecting his mental health is guns can make you dumb. That's probably the stupidest take I'll get today about guns. Or it would have been if some moron hadn't followed it up with burning Teslas will get you trouble so they would rather go shooting.

I do appreciate the article but I cannot let using damaged vets as a prop to fight against guns is a very special kind of a scummy move. Holy fuck is that messed up in ways I don't really have words for. In the words of US's first porn star First Lady 'Be best.'.

Sorry, not sorry.

It couldn’t be helped that the report was predicted on the life of a service member - and I did NOT slander the service member in any way.

It was actually intended as a PSA for the PB’s right wing ammosexual incels who NEVER SERVED but likely fire off more rounds, etc, than a typical service member. (The PB’s right wing ammosexual incels might want to get a brain scan to see if brain damage from repeated firing of guns has caused them to "think" and comment like they do.)



The risk / danger from repeated firing of guns is clear and present, and the consequences have been articulated in great detail.

It is what it is.



Also:

We. Told. Them. So.

 

[Boat1]

I don't have a problem with CBS. Noise will cause you to go deaf at a minimum and I see the guy in the picture is wearing ear protection. There is concrete medical evidence that football players suffer brain damage.

U.S. Marines who fired artillery rounds against ISIS in Syria experienced mysterious, life-altering mental and physical problems, including symptoms potentially related to traumatic brain injuries (TBIs) from blast exposure, with some receiving diagnoses of TBI. Also Google Robert Card.

I used to shoot a lot of skeet and never wore ear protection, back in the day. Dr. said that is probably why I have tinnitus. Now go get spanked .

...and a renowned US Surgeon General stated that the NFA of 1934 was the leading cause of hearing loss in the nation.

So those who are concerned, should be in favor of repealing the NFA of 1934.

 

[Sean Renaud]

Sorry, not sorry.

It couldn’t be helped that the report was predicted on the life of a service member - and I did NOT slander the service member in any way.

It was actually intended as a PSA for the PB’s right wing ammosexual incels who NEVER SERVED but likely fire off more rounds, etc, than a typical service member. (The PB’s right wing ammosexual incels might want to get a brain scan to see if brain damage fri repeated firing of guns has caused them to "think" and comment like they do.)



The risk / danger from repeated firing of guns is clear and present, and the consequences have been articulated in great detail.

It is what it is.



Also:

We. Told. Them. So.

There is no such animal as a typical service member. I doubt these average ammosexual fires off that many rounds. I'd be willing to bet virtually none of them are setting off explosives on anything that could be called a remotely regular basis. Sure there is that one guy who is blowing up prarie dog dens on his ranch and. . .okay that guy is the shit its funny watching those holes go up and I have enough experience with gardening to know I have no pity for burrowing animals that destroy what I'm working on. Especially ones that are in no risk of being even reigned in as a population. We've decimated predators so much that other animals are flat out of balance.

Sorry, not sorry.

It couldn’t be helped that the report was predicted on the life of a service member - and I did NOT slander the service member in any way.

It was actually intended as a PSA for the PB’s right wing ammosexual incels who NEVER SERVED but likely fire off more rounds, etc, than a typical service member. (The PB’s right wing ammosexual incels might want to get a brain scan to see if brain damage from repeated firing of guns has caused them to "think" and comment like they do.)



The risk / danger from repeated firing of guns is clear and present, and the consequences have been articulated in great detail.

It is what it is.



Also:

We. Told. Them. So.

It doesn't show the danger of any regular amount of firing guns.

 

[Lazaran]

There is no such animal as a typical service member. I doubt these average ammosexual fires off that many rounds. I'd be willing to bet virtually none of them are setting off explosives on anything that could be called a remotely regular basis. Sure there is that one guy who is blowing up prarie dog dens on his ranch and. . .okay that guy is the shit its funny watching those holes go up and I have enough experience with gardening to know I have no pity for burrowing animals that destroy what I'm working on. Especially ones that are in no risk of being even reigned in as a population. We've decimated predators so much that other animals are flat out of balance.

There are maaaaany servicemembers who fire guns faaaaaar less than some ammosexual incels that NEVER served…

It doesn't show the danger of any regular amount of firing guns.

Watch the 60 Minutes video.

Also:

The military is currently moving to training with dry fire guns, etc…

There is a reason for that ^ …

 

[ChinoMoreno]

Burning Teslas will get you 20 years.

I'll take my chances at the range.

Hey bro you need to be careful shooting guns. Your brain thought this thread was comparative to bad people burning teslas!

 

[subdudeme13]

...and a renowned US Surgeon General stated that the NFA of 1934 was the leading cause of hearing loss in the nation.

So those who are concerned, should be in favor of repealing the NFA of 1934.

I imegine we see fire arms legistlation differently. I do think there is brain damage being caused to service men. I do not trust the military in regard to the health of service men. I know guys who suffered from being exposed to agent orange and they were denied care for years. I have a brother in law who had some bad choices to make upon getting out after being hit with a grenade. I would be in favor or repealling the 2nd.

 

[subdudeme13]

Hey bro you need to be careful shooting guns. Your brain thought this thread was comparative to bad people burning teslas!

You don't have to burn a Tesla, just wash it!

 

[Lazaran]

Hey bro you need to be careful shooting guns. Your brain thought this thread was comparative to bad people burning teslas!

Yuuuuge red flag…

 

[Politruk]

If firing guns causes brain damage, why does it not appear to be a commonplace syndrome among combat veterans? Doctors paid close enough attention to them to figure out that PTSD is -- brain damage should be easier to diagnose.

 

[Lazaran]

If firing guns causes brain damage, why does it not appear to be a commonplace syndrome among combat veterans? Doctors paid close enough attention to them to figure out that PTSD is -- brain damage should be easier to diagnose.

The “60 Minutes” report went into great detail about why the brain damage was missed before now.

It took a special brain scan that was twice as sensitive as a typical brain scan to detect micro tears in neurons from the repeated blast overpressure from firing small arms , etc (no roadside bomb incident or something similar to explain it).

Watch the entire “69 minutes” episode; It’s as tragic as it is illuminating.

 

[Boat1]

I imegine we see fire arms legistlation differently. I do think there is brain damage being caused to service men. I do not trust the military in regard to the health of service men. I know guys who suffered from being exposed to agent orange and they were denied care for years. I have a brother in law who had some bad choices to make upon getting out after being hit with a grenade. I would be in favor or repealling the 2nd.

Military service is the ONLY thing that comes close to prison, regarding one's loss of freedom and liberty, without doubt.
I had a dear friend, Nam vet... I was the ONLY person he'd let take him to the VA Hospital, simply because he knew I'd get him out if needed.

 

[Wonderer67]

Hasn’t affected me none!

 

[Lazaran]

Hasn’t affected me none!

The only way you would know is to have the new scanning procedure done. The “60 Minutes” report said they’re taking volunteers.

 

[Sean Renaud]

If firing guns causes brain damage, why does it not appear to be a commonplace syndrome among combat veterans? Doctors paid close enough attention to them to figure out that PTSD is -- brain damage should be easier to diagnose.

I highly recommend you watch the video I posted or the full video. Combat vets are not firing their weapons five days a week. I didn't do combat training but I doubt even in training they are live firing daily. There are so many other things they need to do. Basic Physical training, orientiering, I know I had to prove I could swim, that I wouldn't just die if you threw me into a river in full uniform. Hot tip: I would totally die, and die by choiec. The agony of swimming in uniform is unlike anything you've likely done. Screw that. That said I COULD likely survive and circumstances somewhat ideal I could probably even cross a moderately sized body of water. Very moderate or pretty good conditions.

This man was a trainer so day in day out he was around not just guns but explosives. Add on to this that military types are notorious "Alpha" types and I mean that in the worst possible way. I'm better than most but not immune to it. If we are given a choice between whining about our problems and manning up we're gonna man up 9/10 times. That's who we are. We are also more likely to eat bullets than we are to talk about our feelings. My greater point? This guy knew he had a problem, spoke about it and wanted an autopsy. Vets make up 6% of the population and 20% of all suicides.

This goes to both sides but primarily to the right. Stop pretending you give a single fuck about us. You do not. You like to cheer and hold our hands but you do that for Lebron James, John Cena and Floyd Mayweather. You BBQ on the days dedicated to us living or dead. I'm 100% behind Pride, Black, Hispanic, Breast Cancer Awareness and I think that might be it of the month long ones. I'm aware there are TWO montths dedicated the military and I don't want a full month of propaganda being pourded into kids skulls. But where is the month where everybody where Military socks to honor us. you know like the Pink Socks? Nobody is telling you about the accomplishments of this woman or that or who died to breast cancer or how many die annually. Just for one month we know these socks or silly stickers go towards that cause. i don't even mind if you just don't acknowledge us t all but this whole "Thank you for your service." Fuck all the way off. Double that for the right who are furious that Biden got 13 killed. Which we have no reason to think it would have been any different under any other leader. What we do know is 18 a day cancel their own subscription to Life and. . .where are you? Oh right, championing the exact same masculinity that puts them there. Congrats fuckers.

 

[subdudeme13]

Hasn’t affected me none!

Like me! There isn't anything to affect.