So who came up with the HT Cafe?
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done_got_old
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Why didn't you come up with it if you're so creative?
I know who came up with it and to me HT - How to is just great.
Okay friend, let's see if this writer bleeds at all? You want to make the first cut or shall I?
WriterDom
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I would have if anyone asked. There was a bdsm cafe long before this one.
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That would have been too easy!
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Was something preventing you from participating in the discussion about it at the time?
Besides you, apparently, who cares if other subforums came first, or if "HT Cafe" was determined to be a suitable name?
This seems an awful lot like putrefied sour grapes to me, WD. That's a shame because I've always thought of you as the type of person who would consider the use of your idea for the good of the community as a form of flattery, rather than one who'd get upset over something as petty as the implementation of a similar concept/name years after the fact or feel he should have a monopoly on ideas and/or names. Do you also call out members who have "writer" or "dom" in their usernames or similar avatars for copying you?
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It's just a porn site. That's all. A porn site. Don't get so fucking ruffled over nothing.
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you're the one who felt the need to create a new thread about it rather than using the isolated blurts thread, a fairly standard convention on several of lit's subforums. backpedaling your seeming world weariness into the boring and ever-so tired stock dismissal of "it's just a porn site" is an obvious case of ex post facto rationalization.
you are the one that got ruffled. don't go putting your hangups on erika.
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Well put me on ignore and the thread goes away. Please.
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o sure, i could do that...but that would be boring. besides, i don't believe in letting people off the hook so easily.
you see, a more entertaining option presents itself: i could just bump this every now & then to keep it on page 1 as an example of ex post facto rationalizations and why they suck.
i gotta confess, that sounds kinda appealing just now... :>
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Free speech. Do what you want. And I didn't see the original thread where it was discussed or I would have suggested something else. Like HT Coffee House perhaps. HT wine tasters. Or solicit ideas from Hot To and take 10 of them and put it to a vote with a poll. If Cafe won so be it.
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Although it wasn't aimed at me, thanks for the link Eilan. Its kinda cool to see how one of my fave hangouts came into existence.
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I think a better question is why it's a subforum of How To in the first place. Usually subforums are a small section of the original, not an even broader topic of taking about anything and everything. 
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Actually, that doesn't help at all. I already knew why the forum exists. I just meant that it would have made more sense to be its own forum rather than a subforum of How To. If it really had to be a subforum, it could have, instead, been a moderated subforum of General Board. Afterall, the moderation would make it a restricted subsection of the General Board topic of posting whatever you want.
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Usually, but not always, and not necessarily in this community. The subforums here tend to be catch-alls for the different segments of the discussion board community. The BDSM Cafe, for instance, isn't a more specific version of BDSM Talk, it's a place where those who enjoy BDSM can get together and talk about both BDSM- and non-BDSM subjects. The same concept applies to most of the other subforums, including the HT Cafe. "Spin-off forums" would probably be a more accurate descriptor, but because they're organized under the main forums, they're "subforums."I think a better question is why it's a subforum of How To in the first place. Usually subforums are a small section of the original, not an even broader topic of taking about anything and everything.
And now it's more of a catchall forum, but the original concept was for it to be a place to discuss ideas/issues/questions that arose in How To threads and our relationships in general. We don't have so many of those threads anymore, but we did have quite a few of them back then.
It mainly comes down to the target audience. In the case of the HT Cafe, the target audience was (and still is) How To regulars and fans/enjoyers. At the time, there was a larger core group of regulars and probably more people who didn't venture onto the GB. Making the Cafe a subforum of the GB wouldn't have made much sense to anyone, I don't think, and it probably would have discouraged many from participating and totally changed the shape of the discussions. It could have worked and brought more diversity to the forum, but especially at the time, it made the most sense to make it a subforum of How To.
It's also easier for people who are already in HT to click on a link at the top of the page to go to the Cafe than go to the GB or main forum page, then click one or more times to get to the HT Cafe. Same goes for the BDSM Cafe and similar subforums.
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To iterate.
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Interestingly enough, I've mentioned to a friend that perhaps the Café ought to be merged back into the HT.
It might have been a knee jerk reaction or better idea four years ago (can't believe it's been that long). I don't know if it's needed or even causes confusion about the board (regardless of LadyG defining it in the sticky).
Anyone have any thoughts on this? No, WriterDom, not the name.
It might have been a knee jerk reaction or better idea four years ago (can't believe it's been that long). I don't know if it's needed or even causes confusion about the board (regardless of LadyG defining it in the sticky).
Anyone have any thoughts on this? No, WriterDom, not the name.
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Interestingly enough, I've mentioned to a friend that perhaps the Café ought to be merged back into the HT.
It might have been a knee jerk reaction or better idea four years ago (can't believe it's been that long). I don't know if it's needed or even causes confusion about the board (regardless of LadyG defining it in the sticky).
Anyone have any thoughts on this? No, WriterDom, not the name.
Nah, I think we should leave it. It is what it is, and who knows what it could be months or years down the line? It did what we wanted it to do when it was created (more or less: we've had some really great discussions in the Cafe AND its existence has clarified HT proper), and Lit is so cyclical that we'll likely have that kind of discussion again.
Plus, when I imagine merging the forums, I see tons of threads that don't really belong in HT proper cluttering up the first page and preventing new questions from being answered efficiently. And once there are a certain number of non-HT threads in HT, we'll probably get a whole bunch more off-topic threads that truly belong in other forums - you know how it tends to snowball. If that happens, I bet we'll be right back to wanting a separate cafe.
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Oh dear God. Why is this even being discussed now? Quoll, as usual, is correct. It's been four years. Time to move on.
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[trout-smacks cate]
quit having second thoughts, you.
[hoists trout menacingly]
edit: bump. :>
quit having second thoughts, you.
[hoists trout menacingly]
edit: bump. :>
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Interestingly enough, I've mentioned to a friend that perhaps the Café ought to be merged back into the HT.
It might have been a knee jerk reaction or better idea four years ago (can't believe it's been that long). I don't know if it's needed or even causes confusion about the board (regardless of LadyG defining it in the sticky).
Anyone have any thoughts on this? No, WriterDom, not the name.
This is not a very lively place. With posts going back to 2/24 on the first page. But you have it so you might as well keep it.
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well, thank you for your permission, you pompous ass.
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