15 killed in shooting at Uvalde elementary school, active shooter killed, officials say

all the more reason why cops should support a ban on owning this kind of weapon
A new investigation from the Texas Tribune found that officers decided that “immediately confronting the gunman” and the assault-style weapon “would be too dangerous,” although some of the officers on-scene were equipped with the same rifle.

“You knew that it was definitely an AR. There was no way of going in,” Uvalde Police Department Sgt. Donald Page told investigators, according to the Texas Tribune.

“We had no choice but to wait and try to get something that had better coverage where we could actually stand up to him,” he added.

Uvalde Police Department Detective Louis Landry also reportedly said that “once we found out it was a rifle he was using, it was a different game plan we would have had to come up with.”
https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/poli...&cvid=2066f2e7c2634f3bc31cc63cb0dc69b6&ei=190
 
Umm, DUH!!!

DOJ report on Uvalde shooting cites 'cascading failures' in law enforcement response

https://external-content.duckduckgo.com/ip3/abcnews.go.com.icoABC|29 minutes ago
The Department of Justice on Thursday released its report on the law enforcement response to the May 2022 shooting at Robb Elementary School in Uvalde, Texas.


But will anybody be prosecuted?
important quotes from that article... mind-boggling!
Lt. Mariano Pargas, Uvalde's acting police chief at the time, was among the first officers to arrive at Robb. He was deemed by the review team to be "the person best positioned to direct command and control" the law enforcement response, but "failed to do so."

After the initial failure to pursue and confront the shooter, communications breakdowns compounded the confusion on-scene – even after the arrival of Uvalde Consolidated Independent School District Police Chief Pete Arredondo, whom the report identified as the de-facto on-scene commander. Arredondo "lacked a radio," the report found, "having discarded his radios during his arrival thinking they were unnecessary."

"Leadership ... demonstrated no urgency for establishing a command and control structure, which led to challenges related to information sharing, lack of situational statuses, and limited-to-no direction for personnel in the hallway or on the perimeter," the report found.

Counter to well-established active-shooter training methods, Arredondo "directed officers intending to gain entry into the classrooms to stop."
 
The only way of resolving the incompetence of an acting police chief is by bringing in an incompetent Consolidated Independent School District Police Chief.
 
Umm, DUH!!!

DOJ report on Uvalde shooting cites 'cascading failures' in law enforcement response

https://external-content.duckduckgo.com/ip3/abcnews.go.com.icoABC|29 minutes ago
The Department of Justice on Thursday released its report on the law enforcement response to the May 2022 shooting at Robb Elementary School in Uvalde, Texas.


But will anybody be prosecuted?
This continues to be a source of great pain for me.
The Mighty Bosstones: "I'm not a coward, I've just never been tested. I'd like to think that if I was I would pass."
I'm pretty sure I would run away fast if an active shooter was at a theater, mall, or workplace. But dammit to hell! There were parents outside pleading, trying to scale fences, and threatened with arrest if the passed the police lines! I have not borne a child into this world, but I know I would risk my life to enter a school if I saw, knew Uvalde or Sandy Hook was being duplicated.
These fuckers just stood there!!! :mad: :mad: :mad:
I would have resigned if I were a cop. Those involved should have immediately been fired.
How do the folks there even respect the police? The parents of Uvalde have something in them that I do not have. I honestly don't know how they go on day to day. This is my home but Goddamn you America!
 
Chief Dude didn't just stand there. He stopped others from going in.
 
"The families of some of the Uvalde victims have blasted police as cowards and demanded resignations. At least five officers have lost their jobs, including two Department of Public Safety officers and the on-site commander, Arredondo.

No one has been charged with a crime. "

https://apnews.com/article/uvalde-s...eport-police-16b59efa5c5015d685d917c3f0f26256
Is being a coward a crime if you're not in the military? He's a shining example of the "good guy with a gun" defence the ammosexuals throw around.
 
This continues to be a source of great pain for me.
The Mighty Bosstones: "I'm not a coward, I've just never been tested. I'd like to think that if I was I would pass."
I'm pretty sure I would run away fast if an active shooter was at a theater, mall, or workplace. But dammit to hell! There were parents outside pleading, trying to scale fences, and threatened with arrest if the passed the police lines! I have not borne a child into this world, but I know I would risk my life to enter a school if I saw, knew Uvalde or Sandy Hook was being duplicated.
These fuckers just stood there!!! :mad: :mad: :mad:
I would have resigned if I were a cop. Those involved should have immediately been fired.
How do the folks there even respect the police? The parents of Uvalde have something in them that I do not have. I honestly don't know how they go on day to day. This is my home but Goddamn you America!

Over the last twenty years or so I've become increasingly uncertain why people put police so far up on a pedastal that its not even funny anymore.

That being said did the police ever explain why they took so long going in? Cus if you aren't in control of the situation its entirely possible that rushing in gets you in deeper than you already were. Especially if there are similar looking people who work there. I've had jobs where they said "don't do this or you'll face charges" my response "You'll make sure you have positive ID right? Cus I'm looking at my friend here and if you said the suspect is approximately six feet tall, slender, black with a high fade. . ."
 
Over the last twenty years or so I've become increasingly uncertain why people put police so far up on a pedastal that its not even funny anymore.
I can't say I know for certain either, but I do know it's a recognized warning sign of emerging fascism.
 
You know it's an old thread when the Hisarpy/Icanhelp1 guy was still using the "Dmonty" account.
Which, incidently, now "Loves Spam."

One down, seven to go...
 
I can't say I know for certain either, but I do know it's a recognized warning sign of emerging fascism.
Fascism is alive and well as demonstrated by the Democratic Party. MSNBC, the mouthpiece of the Democratic Party suppressing Donald Trump‘s IA victory speech in an attempt to keep their listeners in the dark on current events, Protecting their flawed authoritarian king( Biden crime family ) from the truth.

YB conflating the rule of law with fascism, typical. The real emerging fascism is the Democratic Party led by Sleazy Joe Biden and his cohorts suppressing the truth about the Hunter Biden laptop, the Russia hoax bought and paid for by Hillary and the democratic party using the justice system as an enforcement mechanism to keep the American people in check while denying the American electorate a choice of who they want on their ballots.
 
Fascism is alive and well as demonstrated by the Democratic Party. MSNBC, the mouthpiece of the Democratic Party suppressing Donald Trump‘s IA victory speech in an attempt to keep their listeners in the dark on current events, Protecting their flawed authoritarian king( Biden crime family ) from the truth.

YB conflating the rule of law with fascism, typical. The real emerging fascism is the Democratic Party led by Sleazy Joe Biden and his cohorts suppressing the truth about the Hunter Biden laptop, the Russia hoax bought and paid for by Hillary and the democratic party using the justice system as an enforcement mechanism to keep the American people in check while denying the American electorate a choice of who they want on their ballots.
lol
 
Fascism is alive and well as demonstrated by the Democratic Party. MSNBC, the mouthpiece of the Democratic Party suppressing Donald Trump‘s IA victory speech in an attempt to keep their listeners in the dark on current events, Protecting their flawed authoritarian king( Biden crime family ) from the truth.

YB conflating the rule of law with fascism, typical. The real emerging fascism is the Democratic Party led by Sleazy Joe Biden and his cohorts suppressing the truth about the Hunter Biden laptop, the Russia hoax bought and paid for by Hillary and the democratic party using the justice system as an enforcement mechanism to keep the American people in check while denying the American electorate a choice of who they want on their ballots.
So your criminal who clearly thinks he can do anything while President since he has immunity, you want to blame others for calling that out?

You have been working the deep fryer way too much. Perhaps a day off is in order.
 
So your criminal who clearly thinks he can do anything while President since he has immunity, you want to blame others for calling that out?

You have been working the deep fryer way too much. Perhaps a day off is in order.
He should have the same immunity as Obama. Drone strikes on American civilians, well, just saying.
 
He should have the same immunity as Obama. Drone strikes on American civilians, well, just saying.
Ahhh, bring the case.

Or only interested when your guy is dead to rights?

Is this where you scream Birth Certificate?

Followed by Hunter!!!!!!

Seem to only have the band width for one thing to yell about for years on end.

Do you yell at the French fries too when they don’t go all the way down into the fryer?
 
Fascism is alive and well as demonstrated by the Democratic Party. MSNBC, the mouthpiece of the Democratic Party suppressing Donald Trump‘s IA victory speech in an attempt to keep their listeners in the dark on current events, Protecting their flawed authoritarian king( Biden crime family ) from the truth.

YB conflating the rule of law with fascism, typical. The real emerging fascism is the Democratic Party led by Sleazy Joe Biden and his cohorts suppressing the truth about the Hunter Biden laptop, the Russia hoax bought and paid for by Hillary and the democratic party using the justice system as an enforcement mechanism to keep the American people in check while denying the American electorate a choice of who they want on their ballots.

Even if any of this were true, in no way does it defeat my earlier point: putting cops on a pedestal is a symptom of fascism.
 
Even if any of this were true, in no way does it defeat my earlier point: putting cops on a pedestal is a symptom of fascism.
Cops are American citizens just like you. 136 died in the line of duty in 2023. Don’t use Uvalde as a measuring stick.
 
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