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The Democratic party has been the party of No for a couple of years now. Harry in the Senate and now it will just continue with the lame duck in the white house. If they republicans are smart they will pass laws that help the country and let Obama Veto them. After each Veto the GOP should bring out the TV ads to educate the public on the bills passed and the reason the president veto'd them. If they manage this correctly, there is no way a democrat will be elected to the white house in 16 and more house and senate seats will be lost. Will the internal infighting amongst the GOP allow this? who knows.
 
vetteman said:
Did he say our healthcare rates would go up?
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Let's put the rest of your Gish Gallop aside for a minute and talk about this.

I know that, as a Vietnam-era Marine, you're trained to deride, deflect and distort data you don't agree with, because freedom.

Let's visit the reality-based world for a minute or so: the cost of healthcare has skyrocketed during the past 15 years. You never said shit about the cost of insurance while Dubya was in office, because that would require a degree of intellectual honesty that you simply are not capable of giving us.

Now, and only now, however, you are shocked....*shocked*....that health care rates have gone up. Yes they have, just as they did during the failed Dubya administration. I would point out, however, that the rate of increase actually fell last year, the first full year of Obamacare.

I don't expect you to acknowledge this, owing to your lack of spine and personal integrity. But deep down, you know this is true.

Finally, I seriously doubt that a person who has been mooching off the government for his health care for at least the past decade knows or cares one bit about healthcare costs.

Bottom line: I win, and you, once again, lose. Just like you lost in Vietnam.
 
DooleyDarter said:
The Democratic party has been the party of No for a couple of years now. Harry in the Senate and now it will just continue with the lame duck in the white house. If they republicans are smart they will pass laws that help the country and let Obama Veto them. After each Veto the GOP should bring out the TV ads to educate the public on the bills passed and the reason the president veto'd them. If they manage this correctly, there is no way a democrat will be elected to the white house in 16 and more house and senate seats will be lost. Will the internal infighting amongst the GOP allow this? who knows.
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That's simply not true, Christy.
 
BobsDownSouth said:
You and your kind have been posturing, preening and promising change since election day. I've steadily pointed out that you and your kind lack the votes to overcome a presidential veto. Until a few minutes ago, no one from your side would acknowledge this obvious truth, insisting there were ways to enact laws that didn't require a presidential signature (the best one: "we'll just simply amend the Constitution if we don't get what we want!")
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Just because no one chose to acknowledge you doesn't mean they are not aware of the veto power and the number of votes required to override it.

William J. Clinton was in the exact same "enviable" spot Obama is in now. He chose to do what was both good for the country and politically expedient. If your point is Obama will veto each and every bill placed on his desk out of spite, without regard to whether it would benefit the country, whether it has Democrat support, I would tend to agree with you.

As Truman said, the buck does stop at the president's desk. He, and the Democrat brand will be impacted each time he vetoes a bill with popular support.

Now slither along back under your rock. No one was directly addressing you for a reason.
 
DooleyDarter said:
OK how many bills out of the bills the house passed, did harry let come to a vote on the floor of the senate the past couple of years?
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Very few. Most of these bills were little more than sad attempts to weaken a properly elected president. I applaud Senator Reid for doin' the right thing. The Senate is not a rubber stamp for the churlish House, y'know.

If it makes you feel any better, the Republican-led Senate will have every opportunity to work with the President now. Of course, we both know they won't, they're not interested in governing, they're interested in posturing for the camera, since they will refuse to pass anything remotely acceptable to President Obama
 
BobDownSouth said:
Very few. Most of these bills were little more than sad attempts to weaken a properly elected president. I applaud Senator Reid for doin' the right thing. The Senate is not a rubber stamp for the churlish House, y'know.

If it makes you feel any better, the Republican-led Senate will have every opportunity to work with the President now. Of course, we both know they won't, they're not interested in governing, they're interested in posturing for the camera, since they will refuse to pass anything remotely acceptable to President Obama
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So if they send something to the presidents desk that is good for the country, and he veto's it, he is a democratic hero just like Reid was? Thats real progress
 
DooleyDarter said:
So if they send something to the presidents desk that is good for the country, and he veto's it, he is a democratic hero just like Reid was? Thats real progress
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President Obama was elected by a majority of the votes in 2012. The executive branch is a check on the legislative branch, which you should recall from American Government 101, Christy. He'll sign legislation that he sees fit to sign, and the executive branch is not beholden to the Legislative branch to do their bidding.
 
BobDownSouth said:
President Obama was elected by a majority of the votes in 2012. The executive branch is a check on the legislative branch, which you should recall from American Government 101, Christy. He'll sign legislation that he sees fit to sign, and the executive branch is not beholden to the Legislative branch to do their bidding.
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Yepper and the legislative branch does not have to confirm any of his appointees, after all they were elected to do their job, who gives a shit if it harms the country. Good point.
 
vetteman said:
Harry "Domestic Enemy" Reid is a scoundrel out to thwart the voice of the American people, in order to protect another bigger scoundrel.
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He's doing his job. Naturally "doing your job" is something you probably don't have much recollection of, being unemployed and unemployable for the past decade or so....but hai, as long as you get that government check deposited into your account each month, I doubt you care.
 
It's great fun watching PederastDownSouth get his fat ass handed to him.

He loves the abuse.
 
query said:
Just because no one chose to acknowledge you doesn't mean they are not aware of the veto power and the number of votes required to override it.

William J. Clinton was in the exact same "enviable" spot Obama is in now. He chose to do what was both good for the country and politically expedient. If your point is Obama will veto each and every bill placed on his desk out of spite, without regard to whether it would benefit the country, whether it has Democrat support, I would tend to agree with you.

As Truman said, the buck does stop at the president's desk. He, and the Democrat brand will be impacted each time he vetoes a bill with popular support.

Now slither along back under your rock. No one was directly addressing you for a reason.
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The GOP obstructed the president from DAY FUCKING ONE there Uncle Fester...and for some reason, you idiots think that was a good idea.

The buck cannot stop with the president if the right wing lunatic branch of the government refuses to work with anything that may have his name on it.

You added your thoughts without anyone giving a shit, seems rather hypocritical to say that to anyone else... Yanno?
 
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*L* dont let this internet thing get ya all pissed off an all.


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DooleyDarter said:
Is that you blowing your shemale gal pal? and here I thought you were a racist. Sorry bout that my bad
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Make up your own disses there dummy.


I'm the least racist person here....once again, you don't know what the fuck you're talking about.


Perhaps you should shut up as well, it'd work much better forya.
 
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