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HisArpy said:
The variables are becoming more constant as more data becomes available. At 1 time we thought that the mortality rate was over 3%. Now we're getting more confident that it's probably around half of that. It may go lower but that's what we're preparing for.
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I HOPE you are right.

But the data is still dubious statistically. Why have Spain and Italy got higher death rates than Germany?

Which country is a precursor of the US?
 
It would be no great loss if great loser succumbed to the virus. Hes always been a dipshit windbag.
 
oggbashan said:
I HOPE you are right.

But the data is still dubious statistically. Why have Spain and Italy got higher death rates than Germany?

Which country is a precursor of the US?
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Not sure about Spain, but the average age of Italy is higher than most, plus there is a lot of multi-generational living in the same household.
 
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oggbashan said:
I HOPE you are right.

But the data is still dubious statistically. Why have Spain and Italy got higher death rates than Germany?

Which country is a precursor of the US?
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Why do any single one of them HAVE to be a "precursor"?

There are many variables involved in the question of why this country and not that one. We've been asking that question in regards to longevity for decades and we still don't know the full answer. How do you supposed we're going to know the answer to specific societal CV virus mortality rates in light of that?

Spain could have genetic factors that place them at a higher mortality risk while Germany could have genetic factors that reduce the morbidity rate. Just like certain genetic factors place a certain ethnic group at higher risk for sickle cell anemia while other ethinicities have lower or no risk level. We don't know the answer to why CV19 killed more in some places than others and we really don't have the time or resources to investigate that question right now.

In any event, trying to tie the rates of a homogeneous society to the polyglot that's the US, isn't going to cross reference as simply as people think it will. Thus, the data we should be modeling from should be based on events that have happened here. Based on that, the death rate is pretty low even with other risk factors.

The hydroxychloroquine/azithromycin cocktail seems to be effective and will likely reduce the rate even further if we can get it into action fast enough/thoroughly enough to supplement what we're already doing.
 
HisArpy said:
The hydroxychloroquine/azithromycin cocktail seems to be effective and will likely reduce the rate even further if we can get it into action fast enough/thoroughly enough to supplement what we're already doing.
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Got scientific data to back up this incredible claim?

...didn't think so.
 
Too be honest?

Millions would not be unemployed. Thousands of small businesses would not go under. Drug abuse would not go up. Alcohol abuse would not go up. Domestic violence and child abuse would not go up. Lots of old already sick people would die a little earlier than they would have any way. Medicare/medicare cost would go down. SS cost would go down. A very small amount of healthy younger people would die.
 
VaticanAssassin said:
Too be honest?

Millions would not be unemployed. Thousands of small businesses would not go under. Drug abuse would not go up. Alcohol abuse would not go up. Domestic violence and child abuse would not go up. Lots of old already sick people would die a little earlier than they would have any way. Medicare/medicare cost would go down. SS cost would go down. A very small amount of healthy younger people would die.
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To be honest?
Death Panels.
 
HisArpy said:
You should have stayed away then. Or not contributed.
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And you should get a lobotomy. Or shut the fuck up.

See how that works when you try to be clever? Stick to chasing ambulances. Leave the quips to the professionals.
 
RobDownSouth said:
Bring 'em on.

You've shown me a small sample (22 patients) non-randomized (no placebo control) test. It's a start, but it's certainly not definitive.
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That is the same study Trump referred to a week ago or however long ago.
 
spacekowboy said:
And you should get a lobotomy. Or shut the fuck up.

See how that works when you try to be clever? Stick to chasing ambulances. Leave the quips to the professionals.
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And what are you going to do if I choose the option of "none of the above"? Cry?
 
silver gurl said:
It's working.
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bunny4med said:
I keep hearing it, but haven't seen it yet. NY is going straight into trials. Hopefully it goes as good as it is purported to be.
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There is no "clinical trial" instead the drugs are being given, and patient progress is documented. As well as their beginning physical conditions, including underlying health problems.

Will it prove effective?

Time will tell, the Chinese used it, and the French study show a possible benefit.

It may lead to a drug treatment , which if it did, adds another tool in the treatment tool box beyond ventilators.

Time will tell, and my fingers are crossed it helps...
 
Fuzzy1975 said:
There is no "clinical trial" instead the drugs are being given, and patient progress is documented. As well as their beginning physical conditions, including underlying health problems.

Will it prove effective?

Time will tell, the Chinese used it, and the French study show a possible benefit.

It may lead to a drug treatment , which if it did, adds another tool in the treatment tool box beyond ventilators.

Time will tell, and my fingers are crossed it helps...
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Actually, I think that the "clinical trials" are being conducted in real time with the results being monitored very closely.

There have been several success stories which is why the FDA gave the green light for the emergency use.
 
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