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[AwkwardlySet]

Rice was the creator of the whiny mopey sadkin vampire. Blech.

I like my vamps to be all death and destruction. The Wamphyrie from Lumley's Necroscope books would shred Lestat and the rest of her pantheon of boy bands.

I'm with you on this, but I'll say that I equally dislike the portrayal of vampires such as in From Dusk Till Dawn for example. Turning them into simple monsters sucks just as bad.

The closest to how I like my vampires are some Dracula depictions, maybe also the way that Stephen King did it. I want to feel the dread of an unseen, malefic, and highly intelligent creature that attacks from the shadows rather than rushing straight at you with its jaw unhinged.

 

[KittyOfSteele]

Following as I have a feeling yours will be one of the more interesting threads out there.

For the record, Anne Rice is an amazing author - witches, vampires and mummies included (no need for you to role play being anyone’s mummy!) - who for me set the vampire bar high so long ago.

True, but Mark Rein•Hagen took Anne Rice and set an entirely new bar for Urban Fantasy. The only thing that murdered his work was White Wolf hiring more suits than goths, so New World of Darkness is all kinds of weird*... though, at least, Bloodlines is canon, but what was the cost?

I always have a hard time writing Urban Fantasy because it always leads back to World of Darkness. Then again, I played way too much Vampire: The Masquerade when I was in my early teens, so...

*Who was the fucker who thought Hecata was a good idea for a clan? That is more a brand new sect than a clan!

 

[SinclairGroupLLP]

Assuming JK is Rowling and not Kerouac, that's the only author there I've read, lol.

I've got too much fantasy and not enough vampire on my shelves, apparently!

 

[SpicyBean99]

True, but Mark Rein•Hagen took Anne Rice and set an entirely new bar for Urban Fantasy. The only thing that murdered his work was White Wolf hiring more suits than goths, so New World of Darkness is all kinds of weird*... though, at least, Bloodlines is canon, but what was the cost?

I always have a hard time writing Urban Fantasy because it always leads back to World of Darkness. Then again, I played way too much Vampire: The Masquerade when I was in my early teens, so...

*Who was the fucker who thought Hecata was a good idea for a clan? That is more a brand new sect than a clan!

I believe that I would be right in saying that Hecata are basically an undead megacorp of necromancers rather than a proper clan. It’s like Paradox just threw the Giovanni, Harbingers, Samedi etc into a blender and said, "Eh, close enough!"

 

[SpicyBean99]

Assuming JK is Rowling and not Kerouac, that's the only author there I've read, lol.

I've got too much fantasy and not enough vampire on my shelves, apparently!

Rice is the only vampire author on my list The others are dark romance ( very dark ) and splatterpunk!

 

[AwkwardlySet]

Assuming JK is Rowling and not Kerouac, that's the only author there I've read, lol.

I've got too much fantasy and not enough vampire on my shelves, apparently!

No reason not to do both.

I am also primarily fantasy-oriented, but a vampire story done to my taste would still be primarily fantasy and only partly horror. Not many of those out there though. It's all either romance or straight-up body parts flying carnage horror

 

[KittyOfSteele]

I believe that I would be right in saying that Hecata are basically an undead megacorp of necromancers rather than a proper clan. It’s like Paradox just threw the Giovanni, Harbingers, Samedi etc into a blender and said, "Eh, close enough!"

Oh, you know!

Then again, that's what you get when a videogame company works on a TTRPG and tries to merge stuff up into single things because "they are the same," like d00d, they all despise each other. There's a reason why the Brujah and the Ventrue, and the Nosferatu and the Toreador tolerated each other within the Camarilla. But yeah, Hecata is a Sect, though I think they have their tentacles in more than one megacorp taking into account how spread are the Giovanni! A conglomerate of cultish necromancers. Someone should write an erotica about it.

 

[SpicyBean99]

Oh, you know!

Then again, that's what you get when a videogame company works on a TTRPG and tries to merge stuff up into single things because "they are the same," like d00d, they all despise each other. There's a reason why the Brujah and the Ventrue, and the Nosferatu and the Toreador tolerated each other within the Camarilla. But yeah, Hecata is a Sect, though I think they have their tentacles in more than one megacorp taking into account how spread are the Giovanni! A conglomerate of cultish necromancers. Someone should write an erotica about it.

My bestest friend in the whole entire world is a HUGE fan of the games. I have spent many a boozy evening sitting beside him and being taught all the lore although I have actually played Vampire: The Masquerade: Redemption from 2000.

It's a classic case of a video game company treating TTRPG lore like a game balancing issue...dumb really. "These lot all use necromancy, so they must be the same, right?"

A Hecata erotica could be incredible....A necromancer CEO with centuries of knowledge seducing someone into their web and offering them eternity… at a price? A decent into what it TRULY means to "join the family."

 

[Voboy]

I am also primarily fantasy-oriented, but a vampire story done to my taste would still be primarily fantasy and only partly horror. Not many of those out there though.

I wrote one of those once. It was some of the most fun I've ever had.

 

[Belegon]

Vampires became so much... I wrote a vampire erotic novel because 1) I wanted something that would sell and it seemed a safe bet. and 2) I thought I had kind of a unique take on how to do it. Unfortunately, while my reviews were pretty good overall and I got a lot of positive feedback from other writers, it never sold very well.

My take was that Vampires didn't perish without blood, but they lost their ability to experience emotion. Human blood temporarily fixed that defect. I made them sensitive to light but chose not to make it a fatal peril. I made them strong and fast but not able to shapeshift into any animal forms and not able to fly. I suggested, but didn't confirm, that without the ability to process emotion, they would end up growing so bored with their eternal life that they would find a way to kill themselves. I also made blood-feeding equivalent to sex, which I stole directly from Rice. Unlike Rice, I left them able to have actual sex. (I know, she never unequivocably says they can't fuck, but I felt it was implied.)

I did make the villian vamp in my novel a bloodthirsty vicious bastard without any moral qualms. I also created a magic system and sprinkled a little bit of that among my characters, including a witch unaware that her spells actually work and a knight from a sacred order who was in the service of my male hero, who is a historical figure who died a mysterious death and I choose to say that the reason his death was mysterious was because it never actually happened.

The main protagonist of the book is a SoCal surfer girl who is very confident and independent and integral to the title that came to me, which it did long before I wrote a single word on it. Again, I thought it was marketable. Thus, Real Vampires Don't Surf... but my heroine does, so she must not be a vampire, right?

 

[KittyOfSteele]

My bestest friend in the whole entire world is a HUGE fan of the games. I have spent many a boozy evening sitting beside him and being taught all the lore although I have actually played Vampire: The Masquerade: Redemption from 2000.

It's a classic case of a video game company treating TTRPG lore like a game balancing issue...dumb really. "These lot all use necromancy, so they must be the same, right?"

A Hecata erotica could be incredible....A necromancer CEO with centuries of knowledge seducing someone into their web and offering them eternity… at a price? A decent into what it TRULY means to "join the family."

Redemption was one of my childhood videogames, and it was the thing that introduced me into Vampire: The Masquerade. A key game into teaching me English too, especially of the "thou art thee" variety. I still listen to Christoff screaming "To the abyss with thee!" after hitting a barrel for a Blood Vial during the Dark Ages half.

Currently I played VtM only once with my RPG group. We're so focused on D&D and Pathfinder, so my current experience with VtM is V20 solo with the help of Tourniquet for Revised, or Mythic GME, whichever I am on the mood of, but I lean towards Mythic mostly.

I've been thinking about writing a novelized actual play that takes place in my home city since there's not much metaplot around this area of the world (though it should be considering how much stuff the French Revolution / Second Anarch Revolt caused ripples in here, taking into account that the metaplot does use a lot of historical fiction), but I have a few issues with it.

I don't delve in the new lore now though. There's some stuff that I like about V5, but for every little new thing that I find cool, there's also a quirk that I find cringe.

Now that plot you mention sounds just like Cain... The Tiamat song, to be more precise. You'd be surprised on how many Fledglings begin their unlives because they decided to fuck with the local Kindred. Lucky are the ones who don't meet the Sabbat. I think it's pretty much canon that every Kin in World of Darkness wants to shag a Kindred.

 

[Bamagan]

I didn't realize there were other WoD fans on here. I used to play often, but I moved away from my gaming group right about the time the company was trying to transition from Masquerade to Requiem (etc.). I never got back into it, although I still read some of the old books once in a while.
I've toyed with the idea of writing some vampire stories that draw on the setting, but kind of figured it would either be inaccessible to most readers or require too much effort to explain the clans and sects and how those vampires don't sparkle and what powers they can have and so forth. But maybe there are more fellow fans out there than I realized.

 

[tristianc]

Nice to learn about you Spicybean. I think I’ve seen you post in other boards as well. Being of a certain age I discovered lit as it was a way for me to find erotic material on a dial up speed. Plus I got into the idea once I discovered my dad had erotic novels and found their words did more for me than any picture or movie.

As for vampires I find them to be inherently sexy, the biting on the nape of the neck, the charisma (even if it’s the use of an hypnotic stare or voice.) that can charm the clothes off of the most chaste of people that dare step foot into their home in the night.

 

[NoTalentHack]

I didn't realize there were other WoD fans on here. I used to play often, but I moved away from my gaming group right about the time the company was trying to transition from Masquerade to Requiem (etc.). I never got back into it, although I still read some of the old books once in a while.
I've toyed with the idea of writing some vampire stories that draw on the setting, but kind of figured it would either be inaccessible to most readers or require too much effort to explain the clans and sects and how those vampires don't sparkle and what powers they can have and so forth. But maybe there are more fellow fans out there than I realized.

I really liked the early stuff, up through maybe Mage, but after that... eh, not so much. Interesting worldbuilding, but even as a goth, I felt like it was a bit too head-up-its-own-ass. Also? Mechanically awful, but that's neither here nor there.

I don't have much to say about Ann Rice, except that she was a very nice lady the only time I met her at a book signing in 1995. A girl I was seeing at the time couldn't make the trip to get her latest, Memnoch the Devil, signed and personalized. So, I went in her stead, dressed in my almost constant early 20s uniform of black clothes, combat boots, and motorcycle jacket, with blonde hair to the middle of my back. Ms. Rice thought I was cosplaying Lestat and said I looked exactly as she envisioned the character, which was both very kind and somewhat mortifying. She wrote, "Make sure you hang on to this one. He's a keeper." in the book for my pseudo-girlfriend; sadly (or so I felt at the time), she did not.

After I exited the line, her assistant pulled me aside to give me an invitation to her Halloween party in New Orleans; I understand she handed those out like tic tacs, but it was still flattering. I didn't attend--no way was I driving twelve hours for a party when I could barely stand to stay at them for more than an hour at the best of times--but I kept the invitation for quite some time, ultimately losing it when I moved around ten years later. Or maybe my ex-wife snagged it; she was way more into Anne Rice than I was.

 

[AG31]

I AM NOT A MAN.

Any idea why people would think you were? It never crossed my mind that you weren't female, and I don't think I needed the "mummy" reference to form my opinion.

Thanks for the intro. I'm a clarity junky and appreciate all this clarity!

 

[SpicyBean99]

Any idea why people would think you were? It never crossed my mind that you weren't female, and I don't think I needed the "mummy" reference to form my opinion.

Thanks for the intro. I'm a clarity junky and appreciate all this clarity!

The first story that was published wasn’t my best writing, nor was it to the taste of a specific user and I received a rather accusatory comment which I then further debated here in the AH.

In the words of said user, I am:

“unquestionably, a deviant and a dirty old man, regardless of whatever stolen pictures you attempt to pass off as your own.”

I came on this site to be me, not pass off as anybody else so felt an urge to reiterate this!

 

[StillStunned]

In the words of said user, I am:

“unquestionably, a deviant and a dirty old man, regardless of whatever stolen pictures you attempt to pass off as your own.”

Speaking as a dirty old man myself, there are worse things to be.

 

[KittyOfSteele]

Speaking as a dirty old man myself, there are worse things to be.

For instance, being a dirty old man who is still stunned!

 

[Belegon]

Speaking as a dirty old man myself, there are worse things to be.

Hear hear!!! or is it here, here? I am beginning to not only accept but almost pursue the "dirty old man" label... I'd even accept being called a GILF, tho I have no grandkids so it wouldn't really be accurate. Just like I was beginning to accept the "dad bod" description before cancer took away my spare tire. I don't miss my spare tire, but I do miss my thick strong thighs and my defined shoulders. As someone who caught from little league into my late twenties, I enjoyed the strength in my legs and I was given, over the years, more than a few compliments from ladies who also liked the anatomy that squatting for several hours a day created. Yes, I once did win a "nicest ass on campus" award from the sororities and I was proud of it, too. But that feature was also a victim of the chemo wasting me away. At least I have most of my hair, though it's thinner, softer and a lot less red than it used to be. And I'm going to try and take advantage of my slowly putting back on the weight by continuing to work with free weights in the evening. Maybe I can end up being one of those old guys where I can pull off a senior citizen superman costume or something.

 

[SpicyBean99]

Speaking as a dirty old man myself, there are worse things to be.

It was more about what he implied with those words. There was also a sentence or two that implied I was a kiddy loving dirty old man. That I really do not want to be compared too!

 

[AG31]

He wasn’t the first to wonder. I would rather people believe my gender and age than assume I’m a perverted old man, as has been the assumption so far. My pictures are all over the internet already, a few more in the ether don’t worry me in the slightest

I just recently learned to Google using an image as a criterion, so I took a screen shot of your avatar and used it. Are these all you? (scroll down.)

 

[SpicyBean99]

I just recently learned to Google using an image as a criterion, so I took a screen shot of your avatar and used it. Are these all you? (scroll down.)

No ideaaaaa I can’t see what you’ve attached so maybe

 

[MillieDynamite]

Bet you feel like an ass now, right?

Right. I'll be the first to tell you that your approach is... unusual, shall we say. Posting your picture in your first-ever post in AH. It raises red flags and it makes people instantly think you are a troll.

Now this is a second picture. It still doesn't prove anything. If you want to put this to rest, I'll tell you what will prove something. Take a pic holding a piece of paper with a handwritten text "AwkwardlySet, you are so smart!" With your clothes fully on, please.

 

[AG31]

I can’t see what you’ve attached

Huh. It doesn't work for me anymore either. Maybe it's something Literotica does. Anyway, do you know how to use a picture as a Google search criterion? Your avatar returns a dozen or so pictures. Are they all you? (One, especially, doesn't look like you to me.)

 

[MillieDynamite]

@AG31, you're so fucking spectacle, I mean skeptical.

Huh. It doesn't work for me anymore either. Maybe it's something Literotica does. Anyway, do you know how to use a picture as a Google search criterion? Your avatar returns a dozen or so pictures. Are they all you? (One, especially, doesn't look like you to me.)