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My boyfriend is lactose intollerant... but still eats milk products from time to time saying its worth the uncomfortableness for the night and half the next day.

I'm tired of it, :(, and I want to be able to cook more for us... but I'm craving cream soups and cream sauces and milky good desserts.
Desserts are easy... there are a million and one products that even I can't tell the difference between them and the "real deal"

We've been together for about 2 years now, and its been a fun change to stay away from the things I'm used to making (special dinner items anyway) and to cook simpler and work on my spices, rubs, marinades etc...

I want to make vodka sause, I want to make creamy soups... can I use that ricedream stuff or the lacto safe milk? Will it reduce the right way, will the flavor be ok?

experiences with this good or bad... fav. recipies for lactose impared people? suggestions (of course) ?
 
My mom is lactose intolerant, but not that bad. She can still have that type of stuff on occasion. Have you tried using soy milk instead of the real stuff? It's a though. It made a huge difference in my nephew's baby formula some time ago (turns out he's lactose intolerant too). As far as the lactose free stuff, my mom can have the lactose free ice cream without any problems. The other thing too is when she knows she's going to have the real stuff, she takes something like lactaid which helps immensely.


As far as the lactose free ice cream goes though, it tastes the same to me, and I'm not lactose intolerant. I would assume if there's milk or anything like that it would be the same.
 
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I feel like my cause is lost

:: sniffles ::

c'mon, don't tell me the HT are stumped for the first time in over a million threads?
 
Willing and Unsure said:
My mom is lactose intolerant, but not that bad. She can still have that type of stuff on occasion. Have you tried using soy milk instead of the real stuff? It's a though. It made a huge difference in my nephew's baby formula some time ago (turns out he's lactose intolerant too). As far as the lactose free stuff, my mom can have the lactose free ice cream without any problems. The other thing too is when she knows she's going to have the real stuff, she takes something like lactaid which helps immensely.


As far as the lactose free ice cream goes though, it tastes the same to me, and I'm not lactose intolerant. I would assume if there's milk or anything like that it would be the same.

desserts are easy, there are a million products that taste great. I was wondering if you reduce the soymilk (which does taste different) it still makes a creamy goodness :)
 
BlueSugar said:
desserts are easy, there are a million products that taste great. I was wondering if you reduce the soymilk (which does taste different) it still makes a creamy goodness :)


you might want to check in some newer cookbooks. A lot of them will have conversion charts in them. I know most Betty Crocker cookbooks have them in the inside covers.



http://browse.barnesandnoble.com/br...200025+200115+200128+764806&userid=O9t1wxtuIb


Here's some titles you can check out if you're interested. I know there's tons of stuff out there that can help you with all this good stuff.
 
Bluesugar,
I have a nephew that is severly lactose intolerant. His mom uses the lactose free milk products just as she would milk. The rest of the family doesn't seem to mind. They say the taste is the same. Haven't noticed lactose free cream soups on the shelf but I guess if you make them from scratch it would work. Good luck in your search. Try on-line searchs and the Betty Crocker idea. You might try Campbellsoups.com to see if they have any suggestions.
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I am lactose intolerant and a BIG fan of soy milk. If you're not used to using it, you will immediately taste the difference...it's got a plant-like taste. However, i've used it so long, that it doesn't even phase me...kind of like switching from regular Coke to Diet Coke. Some people have said that using vanilla-flavored soy milk instead of plain helps ease the transition. I never really liked Lactaid milk b/c it tasted like milk, but a little funny and with powdery/gritty stuff mixed in....plus i believe if your body's telling you it doesn't want milk, you probably shouldn't force it.

I've used soy milk in cream sauces before (e.g., tomato-cream sauce over pasta, cheese sauce for potatoes au gratin). The texture and taste aren't quite the same, but it's better than nothing. Yes, you CAN cook with soy milk. Silk even carries soy half-and-half now.

As far as i know, Lactaid milk is just regular milk with lactase enzyme added (i could be wrong on this...let me know if i am). If you're gonna use that, you might as well just use regular milk and give him a couple Lactaid pills. The pills do help if you eat dairy in moderation...If you have a triple-scoop ice cream sunday, you'll probably still have digestive issues.

BTW, soy ice cream is pretty iffy. Tofutti ice cream in the tub is good, but the ice cream sandwiches are weird. Soy Dream ice cream sandwiches are excellent.

I've spent a good amount of time exploring these options, as you can probably tell:rolleyes: so i'd appreciate advice from others as well.

Hope this helps!

D :rose:
 
thank you for your help once again everyone!

As you all can understand, I don't want to slave over a creamy goodness creation and have it end up taste gross and I'd have to throw it all out. I believe in tasting as you go when trying out new creations - but usually I don't because I've worked with alot of things concerning food and generally know how to ballance - but this lactose thing has really had me in a bind.

I'm going to try a few things and report back after I do more product research. Thanks for the google! I'm going to call up a few other friends of mine and see what they do... I'm sure its pop a pill and eat in moderation ; but my guy isn't so into taking medicine - even if its just tylenol :)
 
There are "dairy digestive aid" products -- generall pills -- that will help digest the lactose. I belive they are enzymne based. I take a couple of them when I realize I've had too much lactose.

There are also products that contain bacteria which will digest the lactose. Look for milk, etc. with adolpholis (sp) added.
 
I don't do dairy. Not from intollerance but from allergy. I break out something fierce from dairy fat. Didn't start until I was in my mid-teens which is a real bitch cuz I got to expereience what I would be missing the rest of my life...lol

I do fine with skim milk but that is about it. So that means no pizza, no ice cream, etc. Although there is an awesome ice cream out there called Mocha Mix, if you can find it, it is really good stuff and dairy free.

I love to cook and it can be a real challenge leaving dairy out of recipes. I find skim milk and such just really don't cut it. Sure you can get creative but for the dairy inclined it just doesn't seem to satisfy them.

Now as for me, it has been so many years that I have been avoiding dairy, that much more than a hint of it tastes awful in my mouth. Thick and greasy and fatty and I have come to really dislike it. Except ice cream of course. :)

My wife and kids have gotten used to it and although I never ask them to change their eating habbits they have. And truth be told even my kids dislike 2% milk cuz they say it tastes thick and fatty! But they get their pizza and ice cream and such and I sometimes cook with loads of dairy just for them. They love it when I make my three-cheese basil bread! And I love to make it for them. It's my deal not theirs. They don't like to "leave me out" but it doesn't happen all that routinely.

It's tough to have someone around with unique diatary needs. We have found the key is to be creative in your thinking (not just your recipes), be understanding (all in involved), and do the best you can.

You'd be amazed what you can become accustomed to not having and not even notice with all the other wonderful ways to cook there are out there.
 
Limb- we're the opposite the way I grew up. The only thing we had whole was milk and mayo (my mother refused to skimp) and now if I have anything less them whole milk or 1-2% my stomach goes "woooah there... that isn't milk!!" and does back flips on me.

I've had a couple of soy products, and since I went to an environmental college and many of my friends had all kinds of crazy needs with their food habits I learned to adjust to them and cook amazing things. But, no one was ever lactose ... mainly it was catering to the vegans. The vegitarian's couldn't live w/o their milk products ... I made sure everyone was happy when it was my turn to cook.

Its been so long since I had a good cream soup or cream sause... I've finally put my foot down and started this search. I know it'll only come out good if I make it or order out (which, most of the time I refuse to do .. bc most of the time I can make it myself anyway!) ... no campbles soups- as good as they are, they have sooo much added to them then I want to put into my body.

I think I'm going to try using Silk with a little 2% ... maybe with a little of something else. Its taste and texture... i want it to thicken/reduce to just the right place.

I was actually thinking of using cornstarch - but the more I thought of it, the more of a bad idea it would be.

((this wouldn't be a problem if I knew how to cook for 2 people, or one person... Italian born and raised... I was born to eat, and I was born with a cookbook in my head already ... which means ... I'm only happy when people are stuffing their faces, the best compliment is silence at the table bc everyone is stuffin their faces and they are happy- which makes me happy, and I can cook for 5+ people and an army... and left overs, and to feed the neighbors... ::sigh:: )) haha
 
BlueSugar said:
My boyfriend is lactose intollerant... but still eats milk products from time to time saying its worth the uncomfortableness for the night and half the next day.

I'm tired of it, :(, and I want to be able to cook more for us... but I'm craving cream soups and cream sauces and milky good desserts.
Desserts are easy... there are a million and one products that even I can't tell the difference between them and the "real deal"

We've been together for about 2 years now, and its been a fun change to stay away from the things I'm used to making (special dinner items anyway) and to cook simpler and work on my spices, rubs, marinades etc...

I want to make vodka sause, I want to make creamy soups... can I use that ricedream stuff or the lacto safe milk? Will it reduce the right way, will the flavor be ok?

experiences with this good or bad... fav. recipies for lactose impared people? suggestions (of course) ?

Try this book
http://www.amazon.com/exec/obidos/tg/detail/-/0398068690/102-1039895-4732115?v=glance
 
enzymes

I agree with ReadyOne about the enzymes.

Lactose intolerance is the lack of the digestive enzyme Lactase, which breaks down the sugar found in milk (lactose).

If his condition has been diagnosed by a doctor as being Lactose intolerance, consult the doctor about an enzyme supplement.

If it has not been diagnosed by a doctor, he should see a doctor about it. There are a number of conditions which could produce the same symptoms, some of them serious.

I have seen a doctor and been diagnosed as having IBS. This produces similar symptoms but is aggravated by more than just dairy products.

I have found that a good plant-based digestive enzyme supplement helps me.

I take AbsorbAid.

But, I still say...he should see a doctor about it.

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I'm sure its pop a pill and eat in moderation ; but my guy isn't so into taking medicine - even if its just tylenol

I'm the same way about going to the doctor...won't go if I can survive without...but I still say he should see a doctor.
Ultimately, he will have to decide how severe the symptoms must get before he is willing to see a doctor and get some medicine. The medicine is there, but he must decide when he is willing to go get it. I can say from first hand experience that it is worth it.

Good luck to you and him.
 
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