An announcement about my future publishing on Literotica

[M_K_Babalon]

Ahh, yes, disagreeing with you is "being a troll". Get over that nonsense, people are allowed to have different opinions. It was totally fine to disagree with @AwkwardlySet when he raised concerns, but now disagreeing is being a troll?
I just don't think any supposed "one bombing" is nearly as big a problem as some people do. Then again, my whole ego and sense of self-worth isn't tied up in a random voting system on a porn site. So there's that.

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It might not be as bad as it used to be, but it used to be pretty bad, especially if you published LW stories. Just like the cliques of folks who'll bomb stories to keep their favorites on top list. You probably never really dealt with it depending on where you write, and not being here very long.

 

[StillStunned]

Wait, hold up - I can sell more porn at a Farmer's Market next to the stand with organic radishes and locally sourced honey?!

If nothing else, you can probably sell "Locally Sourced Honey" as a title to one of the resident Lesbian authors.

 

[Kelliezgirl]

It might not be as bad as it used to be, but it used to be pretty bad, especially if you published LW stories. Just like the cliques of folks who'll bomb stories to keep their favorites on top list. You probably never really dealt with it depending on where you write, and not being here very long.

I don't write in LW, but the people complaining about this don't seem to either. That place is just a cesspool anyway.

But I've been here longer than you based on your date joined. Admittedly not by much.

 

[cw5523729]

organic smut! get yer organic smut here, hand crafted by sticky human fingers, completely AI free!

I prefer all my porn be of the locally sourced variety, unblemished by pesticides and chemicals.

Please read the above in a snooty accent, nose raised high.

 

[Kelliezgirl]

I prefer all my porn be of the locally sourced variety, unblemished by pesticides and chemicals.

Please read the above in a snooty accent, nose raised high.

Our corn is shucked between the thighs of locally sourced 18 year old virgins.

 

[cw5523729]

Our corn is shucked between the thighs of locally sourced 18 year old virgins.

And not a day younger!!

 

[Kelliezgirl]

And not a day younger!!

And we will explicitly state that early in the story!

 

[DEFCOM5]

WOW! How this thread was high jacked!

Clicking the unwatch button .....

 

[M_K_Babalon]

I don't write in LW, but the people complaining about this don't seem to either. That place is just a cesspool anyway.

But I've been here longer than you based on your date joined. Admittedly not by much.

Nope, this is just a new account. I stopped writing erotica with my other account.

 

[Kelliezgirl]

WOW! How this thread was high jacked!

Clicking the unwatch button .....

Welcome to the AH, where threads have a life of their own!

 

[cw5523729]

WOW! How this thread was high jacked!

Clicking the unwatch button .....

Guess no freshly shucked corn for you then

 

[Kelliezgirl]

Guess no freshly shucked corn for you then

He'll be back, like moths to a flame...
If you are announcing you're leaving, you aren't really leaving.

 

[FreyaGersemi]

I didn't mean to make anyone uncomfortable, sorry

I think it's amazing that some people can make a living at writing! if you can intersect your passions with your talents with the ability to make a living, that's the coolest thing in the world.

No problem. I am under no delusion that my description of a blowjob will change the world! I was just pointing out that a hobby is something that someone kind of kicks around in their spare time. I don't see creating something amazing out of thin air (as every author does!) as a hobby. You pointed out the "make a living" aspect and I can see that, but I don't define what a hobby is by how much money (or lack of) it produces. How many artists/musicians/authors toiled in obscurity only to be revered and loved by future society? Not that writing porn makes me a literary genius! Just saying that some writers (in spite of lack of earnings) see their work as a lot more than a hobby.

 

[cw5523729]

He'll be back, like moths to a flame...
If you are announcing you're leaving, you aren't really leaving.

well, certainly not until all your followers have time to digest the gravity of your departure.

Is there a set ratio of days-to-announce-your-leaving : days-before-you-return ?

 

[Kelliezgirl]

well, certainly not until all your followers have time to digest the gravity of your departure.

Is there a set ratio of days-to-announce-your-leaving : days-before-you-return ?

I suspect it depends more on where they fall on the "need for constant validation" scale. For some folks around here it is pretty high...

 

[cw5523729]

I suspect it depends more on where they fall on the "need for constant validation" scale. For some folks around here it is pretty high...

I, personally, try to set the bar to which all others strive to achieve

 

[Kelliezgirl]

I, personally, try to set the bar to which all others strive to achieve

We've noticed.

Didn't your last evaluation say, "CW has hit rock bottom and started to dig"?

 

[cw5523729]

We've noticed.

Didn't your last evaluation say, "CW has hit rock bottom and started to dig"?

It was the score of 3.99 on a story that did me in. I was contemplating Hari-Kari but all my kitchen knives are too dull so I resorted to sobbing instead.

It's for the best anyway - the clean-up is a lot less work.

 

[Britva415]

the clean-up is a lot less work

but you have to do it yourself

 

[Kelliezgirl]

It was the score of 3.99 on a story that did me in. I was contemplating Hari-Kari but all my kitchen knives are too dull so I resorted to sobbing instead.

It's for the best anyway - the clean-up is a lot less work.

Ahh, the dreaded One Bombers must have found you. They cruise the backwaters of Lit, searching for innocent authors to plunder of their dignity, self-respect and will to live.

 

[cw5523729]

Ahh, the dreaded One Bombers must have found you. They cruise the backwaters of Lit, searching for innocent authors to plunder of their dignity, self-respect and will to live.

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[Voboy]

Monetization of hobbies is the death of joy

Preach.

This was certainly the case for me.

 

[LargoKitt]

I understand your growing impatience with the vicissitudes of Literotica. Curiously, if I don't count seeing all my art disappear, I haven't seen what you are talking about. I think I was "One bombed" once. I haven't submitted much to contests. Lots of authors. Don't expect much if I do. Most of my stories get decent ratings or the ones they deserve because they stretch the category I post them in. Rejections by Lit have made sense when they stretched the rules like age of protagonists. Haven't noticed a real A.I. effect yet. I'm more concerned with the current nervousness in US culture about what 'they' think is 'proper'. Pick your 'they'. Sex is a beautiful thing and it's fun describing people having fun with it. Hope you find the right stage to do that full tilt for you LK

 

[Belegon]

Hi all,

I’ve had a great time growing as a writer on Literotica. I started out writing quasi-biographical stories that relied more on memory than invention. I graduated to more creative works, I began to focus more on plot, and characters, and on dealing with broader themes than just people fucking. I’ve come a long way and my characters have cum an awful lot.

The culmination of this literary journey is my first novel, The Story of Nix. This is something into which I poured every single thing I have learned about writing, along with many of my feelings about the world in 2025.

I’m super proud of the result and even more so of the deluge of positive comments and messages from a wide range of people. I never had any idea that this essentially personal project would resonate with so many, including excellent authors for whom Nix was their first experience of my work. It’s one thing having fans, quite another to reach a wider audience of fellow writers. The response has been truly amazing and humbling.

But, sadly, this writing career peak has coincided with changes at Literotica. The site has never been very writer-friendly. It’s focused on readers and us authors are seen as fungible commodities, and not valued content partners. We provide the product that Literotica sells, and the only recompense is seeing our work appreciated by others.

For years this has been enough. It wasn’t maybe a great deal for good authors, but the views you got allowed writers to ignore how little our basic needs were catered for. But, sad to say, things have gotten worse.

The views have fallen off a cliff edge in many categories. The few pro-author aspects (comp-related sweeps, or the site looking into malicious voting when asked to) have atrophied, and are becoming close to non-existent. The Halloween Competition sweep was something of a joke in its ineffective shallowness. And the site no longer responds to requests to fix clearly malicious votes. The trolls have totally free rein. Literotica is becoming an unregulated, dystopian hellscape for authors. And I know it’s not just me who thinks so.

Add to this the current submission crisis, and Literotica has become much less author-friendly; and that decline is from a starting position that was already very low. For me at least, things have reached a tipping point where the benefits of publishing here have dropped below the hassle factor.

For that reason, the story I have already written for the Winter Holidays Competition will be the last new one I publish. I’m not doing anything as dramatic as deleting my back catalog - to do so would be punishing my loyal readers, rather than the site - but part of me feels that I should, to be entirely consistent.

I’m not so stupid to think that a lack of new Emily Miller stories will bring Literotica to its knees, but I’m no longer comfortable contributing even 0.00001% to the site’s revenue, when the most basic of courtesies and protections are no longer extended to authors.

Maybe there is a crisis of some sort at Literotica Towers. Illness, disability, old age catching up with the principals, a decision to sell the site, the technical infrastructure crumbling… who knows? Absent any communication about this, I see no need to extend the benefit of the doubt to the site.

What is indisputable is that the basic hygiene factors no longer exist, and it feels as if the level of respect towards the other half of what ought to be a symbiotic relationship has evaporated. Authors never mattered much, now they don’t matter at all.

While I won’t post any new stories here (unless things change radically - and I’m not holding my breath), I might consider completing some series in deference to my readers. But any new stories will be published in different ways.

I’m not quitting the forums, I’ll still be here to annoy a range of people as much as always. So if the aim of attacking my work was to make me leave, then fuck you! I’ll also continue to promote my back catalog here from time to time, and to comment on the work of other writers.

I apologize to my regular readers. This isn’t about you, it’s about the environment for authors here becoming intolerable. I’m fine, I don’t need messages of support. If you want to do something positive, consider messaging @Laurel and @Manu asking them to treat authors with greater respect. Not that I anticipate this leading to any change either. The site doesn’t listen to its users and the death spiral - whatever caused it in the first place - already seems well-established.

Thank you to those who have enjoyed my work and said so. You’re the best. I’m not going to stop writing, but I’m no longer going to provide Literotica with a revenue stream when I get little in return.

Love

Emily

PS I’m not going to argue with anyone on this thread. Feel free to call me a spoiled princess, or a drama queen, if you feel like it, I really don’t care.

the primary issue I take with this is that Lit isn't "becoming" anything. The issues you reference were being discussed in my first residence here, which was quite literally twenty years ago. I believe that some of those issues are simply the result of a website that is run and controlled by a small team and is not a corporate entity. I once upon a time was in a position where I also "left" Lit as an author, though it was specifically to chase income. But those days are apparently gone. The entities who paid me to amuse their patrons no longer exist. And I have not made much progress in relearning the environment. I suppose I will end up joing the ranks of the slef published on Amazon, because the once existing publishers that were organized on a new version of the traditional publishing model are simply not there anymore. Every publisher I once worked for seems to have failed between 2012 and 2017 or so.

 

[RejectReality]

The silence is simple to answer. No matter what they say, 75% of the people complaining about any issue will call the answer bullshit and then spend another month generating ever-wilder conspiracy theories. This was proven to them often enough years ago that they rarely try anymore except to message individuals who seem more or less rational on the particular subject, once in a blue moon. Otherwise, if it's a problem that needs solving, they just do it quietly in the background. If it's just something people don't like... *shrug* Explaining why it is the way it is just generate endless "yeah, but".

I believe the current AI "solution" is a farce that's obviously driving authors away. I've personally fielded at least a dozen PMs inquiring about other places to go myself. That being said, it's patently obvious the queue is overloaded. The number of stories being published has exploded since I started years ago. It was rare air for a story to end up on page 2 of the new story list for many, many years. People would scream bloody murder if the contest stories pushed them onto page 2. Now they're dropping sometimes hundreds of new submissions per day. It wasn't very long ago at all ( maybe last year ) that I had a discussion with Laurel, and she said she was still doing the work herself after all these years. 8+ hours a day working the queue. That doesn't count the bug reports, sweep requests, forum reports, yadda, yadda, yadda. There's nothing automated in the queue beyond whatever they're doing about AI. If they're determined to stick with this AI filtering thing, that's what I would automate. Create that whimsical whitelist everyone keeps talking about for real, and just automatically reject anything above a certain percentage generated by the hallucinating clanker. Just watch the complaints about long wait times vanish if they do that, and the screeches about false AI rejections explode again. At least it would take some of the load off Laurel in the process. There's no winning here, so may as well get something useful out of it.

All this whining and moaning ( including my own about the AI detector ) accomplishes exactly jack shit. Taking your ball and going somewhere else means nothing. The #1 author has done that more than once, and it had exactly zero effect in the grand scheme of things. Huge swaths of people left during the political hell the place had become several years ago, which represented a decent number of top 100 authors. Fart in a whirlwind. All it does is push the two people who've been holding this place up on their shoulders for 25 years now — and have to be in some stage of burnout — toward Lit's inevitable end.

If there was someone they trusted enough to take the place over, they'd already be on board helping and learning the ropes. That means the place will either slowly fade away when they stop accepting new content until the server contracts run out, vanish abruptly because they just can't take it anymore, or get sold off to some porn conglomerate that want it for the content and the traffic it can drive to the sites they care about. If it was me, listening to the ingrates playing martyr around here year after year after year, I'd sell it off just to come back every once in a while to giggle at folks learning what having the people in charge actually not give a shit looks like.

Oh, and the "buggy changes that nobody asked for" to the activity feed? Dime to a donut, shunting stuff off to an archive was a necessity, not a feature. The system we had was put in place before lists took off ( and that's only going to ramp up as more people discover them. Trust me ) and the volume of data that was blasting through it had to be causing issues behind the scenes. Database restructuring with a goal is why that change was made. I can pretty much guarantee that once the bugs are ironed out of what they've put up now, the archive items will expire and get dumped after a certain amount of time. That's the logical reason for making that change.