Another Climate Alarmist Admits Real Motive Behind Warming Scare

[Hypoxia]

Melt all the ice and this is what's left.

How many meters rise in sea level do these maps represent?

Most of Mexico's population is hiugh up in the altiplano. Most of USA population lives near sea level. Crazy focking gringos!

Meanwhile, Oz will get another thousand miles of beaches, but without surf. What a tragedy.

 

[Aella_]

Peabody reached a settlement in November. Investigations of ExxonMobil are ongoing.

http://mashable.com/2016/03/29/attorneys-general-exxon-global-warming/

Thanks for that, phrodeau.

 

[Hard_Rom]

Check out Russia's new beach front property!

I wonder how much sea levels globally dropped after the Mediterranean opened to the Atlantic? Must have drained off a bit anyways. Geologically speaking it wasn't long ago. 5.3 million years. It only became landlocked and dried up 6 millions years ago. Took two years to refill after the Straits of Gibraltar opened up. 700 thousands years to virtually dry up and two years to refill!

A river with 1000X the Amazon's flow and a huge waterfall at the end. Levels rose as much as 10 metres per day.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Zanclean_flood#/media/File:Insetinundacio.jpg

What a sight that would have been to see!

Such a short-sighted short-lived race with no vision of the future beyond two terms of a POTUS run in office. Fuck the past! Who cares about the future! All on the edge of our seat waiting to see how the GoT series ends.

 

[Hypoxia]

I wonder how much sea levels globally dropped after the Mediterranean opened to the Atlantic? Must have drained off a bit anyways. Geologically speaking it wasn't long ago. 5.3 million years. It only became landlocked and dried up 6 millions years ago. Took two years to refill after the Straits of Gibraltar opened up. 700 thousands years to virtually dry up and two years to refill!

I can't find references now and my memory is fairly shot, but I recall reading of the Med being dry during the height of the last Ice Age (ca.12000 years ago) when much terrestrial water was locked up in icecaps. A dry Med with thousands-meters-deep abysses, baked under an unforgiving sun, would be hell on earth -- and may be the source of human visions of hell. Can anyone help me here?

 

[dan_c00000]

Of course the article has a lot more but it does beg the question, are we getting the whole truth here?

None of those things mentioned in the article are true.

 

[Hard_Rom]

Sea levels dropped by 120 meters during last glacial maximum. The Straits of Gibraltor are 300-900 meters deep, so Med would still have been connected to the Atlantic.

http://www.ngdc.noaa.gov/mgg/topo/pictures/GLOBALsealevelsm.jpg

Adriatic Sea is dried up, Black Sea is landlocked and the Caspian is non-existent. Australia connects to the islands of New Guinea. You can see the land bridge from Asia to NA.

Britain is a part of Europe. Iceland is huge.

For comparison: ice all melted
http://free-photos-ls01.gatag.net/images/lgf01a201307141900.jpg

It would appear human civilization has arisen during a middling period of possible sea levels.

 

[Hypoxia]

Sea levels dropped by 120 meters during last glacial maximum. The Straits of Gibraltor are 300-900 meters deep, so Med would still have been connected to the Atlantic. <snip> Adriatic Sea is dried up, Black Sea is landlocked and the Caspian is non-existent.

Okay, so the Med didn't go dry during modern human prehistory. The Adriatic and Caspian did but those are weak locations to inspire hellacious biblical imagery -- not near the Levant. Where does one descend into a burning underworld?

It would appear human civilization has arisen during a middling period of possible sea levels.

Somewhere (sorry, lost the source) I recently saw a Timeline of Human Civilization, noting a clustering of notable events just as icecaps receded and seas rose. Humanity is the child of change.

 

[Hard_Rom]

The earliest finds of human habitation in Britain pre-date the last Ice Age. Apparently we retreated from areas such as Britain and then re-inhabited the region after the Ice Age. Those called European congregated on the Anatolian Plateau in modern Turkey to wait out the ice.

I read of what is called a population bottleneck that reduced the human breeding population down to maybe 3000 breeding pairs. We faced extinction until a spate of global warming changed the climate to one we could survive and expand in. This occurred before we moved out of Africa.

This explains the lack of genetic diversity in humans. 3k breeding pairs is close to the limit where you start to become inbred.

900 million years of global temp data
http://drtimball.com/wp-content/upl...global-temperature-over-900-million-years.jpg

500 thousand years
http://drtimball.com/wp-content/upl...global-temperature-over-900-million-years.jpg

10k years
http://jonova.s3.amazonaws.com/graphs/lappi/gisp-last-10000-new.png

It's not so much a can humans survive global warming. We have gone through worse. It's can our level of population and stability of civilization survive and grow.

If temps go up a few degrees and we get crop failures and cities flooding, we get huge amounts of unrest. We no longer have a wide open world were primitive people could just up and move. We have a huge population that covers almost all of liveable areas.

 

[phrodeau]

Peabody's back in the news; employee layoffs and encroaching bankruptcy.

http://news.stlpublicradio.org/post/peabody-and-arch-lay-employees-wyoming-mines

 

[phrodeau]

Not too big to fail.

U.S. coal giant Peabody Energy Corp. filed for bankruptcy on Wednesday, the most powerful convulsion yet in an industry that's enduring the worst slump in decades.

The company voluntarily filed petitions under Chapter 11 for the majority of its U.S. entities in the United States Bankruptcy Court for the Eastern District of Missouri, according to a statement dated April 13.

Founded in 1883 by 24-year-old Francis S. Peabody with $100, a wagon and two mules, the miner is now the largest private-sector coal company in the world, with customers in 25 countries and about 8,000 employees, according to its website.

Read more here: http://www.charlotteobserver.com/news/nation-world/national/article71525562.html#storylink=cpy