Antonym for progressive

[Que]

The correct antonym is liberal. Not liberal as progressives have co-opted the term in their never ending quest to redefine themselves into something palateble to the actual majority. Classical liberalism is the opposite of the control needed by progressives to force their will onto others for what they believe is the greater good.

...of course you just wanted a platform to deliver snark, but I decided to supply the correct answer anyway.

 

[4est_4est_Gump]

The correct antonym is liberal. Not liberal as progressives have co-opted the term in their never ending quest to redefine themselves into something palateble to the actual majority. Classical liberalism is the opposite of the control needed by progressives to force their will onto others for what they believe is the greater good.

...of course you just wanted a platform to deliver snark, but I decided to supply the correct answer anyway.

What I said...

 

[lovecraft68]

'old school'

 

[BotanyBoy]

This is not the Libertarian position, it is the position of the anarchist.

Then exactly what control should the government have according to the libertarian position?

The correct antonym is liberal. Not liberal as progressives have co-opted the term in their never ending quest to redefine themselves into something palateble to the actual majority. Classical liberalism is the opposite of the control needed by progressives to force their will onto others for what they believe is the greater good.

The actual majority? LOL

If you're defining progressive as those who force their will onto others for what they believe is the greater good than that includes easily 95+ percent of the US and 99% of everyone living in the 1st world.

The actual majority is MASSIVELY progressive by those terms.

 

[4est_4est_Gump]

Go do some reading and answer the question for yourself...

 

[imalickin]

This is not the Libertarian position, it is the position of the anarchist.

On the Limits of State Action Wilhelm von Humboldt.

Pro-pot is not really a Libertarian issue.

Libertarian is mainly an economic movement.

Yeah, not really...

Libertarian is not a single viewpoint, but includes a wide variety of perspectives. Libertarians can range from market anarchists to advocates of a limited welfare state, but they are all united by a belief in personal liberty, economic freedom, and a skepticism of government power.

 

[4est_4est_Gump]

There are outliers...

 

[RobDownSouth]

The correct antonym is liberal. Not liberal as progressives have co-opted the term in their never ending quest to redefine themselves into something palateble to the actual majority. Classical liberalism is the opposite of the control needed by progressives to force their will onto others for what they believe is the greater good.

...of course you just wanted a platform to deliver snark, but I decided to supply the correct answer anyway.

Meth, folks. Not even once.

 

[4est_4est_Gump]

https://mises.org/library/economics-free-stuff

 

[Hard_Rom]

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Libertarianism

Libertarianism is a political philosophy that upholds liberty as its principal objective. Libertarians seek to maximize autonomy and freedom of choice, emphasizing political freedom, voluntary association, and the primacy of individual judgment.

All libertarians begin with a conception of personal autonomy from which they argue in favor of civil liberties and a reduction or elimination of the state.

 

[Comshaw]

Go do some reading and answer the question for yourself...

Awww....pulling an Ishmael are you? Figures.



Comshaw

 

[Aglaopheme]

The correct antonym is liberal. Not liberal as progressives have co-opted the term in their never ending quest to redefine themselves into something palateble to the actual majority. Classical liberalism is the opposite of the control needed by progressives to force their will onto others for what they believe is the greater good.

...of course you just wanted a platform to deliver snark, but I decided to supply the correct answer anyway.

You mean like whom you can marry and what you can do with your own body? Darn those progressives!

 

[Hard_Rom]

retrogressive, regressive, unmodernised, conservative, retrograde, throwback, returning, unordered, unmodernized, atavistic, reverting, disordered, inactive, decreasing

These are the correct antonyms for progressive! Look in a dictionary.

Antonyms for liberal.

intolerant, limited, narrow, specific, conservative, economical, greedy, lacking, mean, narrow-minded, poor, thrifty, ungenerous, wanting

 

[BotanyBoy]

You mean like whom you can marry and what you can do with your own body? Darn those progressives!

That's not real oppression....because Jesus.

The founding fathers clearly wanted supreme federal authority to prohibit whatever drugs, sex any music conservatives might not like.

 

[Que]

@BotanyBoy. You are correct in that no one seems to mind when the other guy's ox is the one being gored. for example everybody likes zoning boards until they themselves run afoul of one.

Progressives though, at times will invite the gov't to take control of portions of their lives.

Anyone, on the left or the right is susceptible to the allure of giving up a little freedom if the stand to gain security, especially economically.

You mean like whom you can marry and what you can do with your own body? Darn those progressives!

The two and only two holy touchstones of sacred 'liberal'ism. The only two activities that progressives feel should be free from government intrusion. They are right about only that.

 

[Que]

These are the correct antonyms for progressive! Look in a dictionary.

Antonyms for liberal.

intolerant, limited, narrow, specific, conservative, economical, greedy, lacking, mean, narrow-minded, poor, thrifty, ungenerous, wanting

Any guesses on the political persuasion of the person that made those entries and that created the misuse of language there in?

For example to be not progressive and ungenerous is a laugh. Progressives are only generous with other people's money. Demonstrable fact.

See Penn Gillette's very good statement on the fact that voting to give things to other people is not charity. Charity is something you do of your own free will.

...but you go on thinking that because Progressive are very much involved in defining language that they are in fact bringing progress... what with them naming themselves Progressive.

 

[Hard_Rom]

These are from a Thesaurus not a political blog. Put a political twist on if you like but these have all been just dictionary definitions. The white washing occurs outside the literary definitions.

 

[RobDownSouth]

Any guesses on the political persuasion of the person that made those entries and that created the misuse of language there in?

Thesauruses, like Reality has a well-known librul bias.

 

[BotanyBoy]

@BotanyBoy.

Progressives though, at times will invite the gov't to take control of portions of their lives.

Just progressives hua?

LOL....we get it....you love the Kool-Aid....no I'm not buying any.

The two and only two holy touchstones of sacred 'liberal'ism. The only two activities that a progressives feel should be free from government intrusion.

No I'm pretty sure they favor government intrusion on those given certain circumstances.

Just not the kind that violates the shit out of the constitution with the sole legal argument being "because Jesus" .

They are right about only that

Start selling our daughters off to old pervs now right? Jesus approves!

Look as much as you might hate it government intrusion and regulation is a matter of fact in a civilized society.

That's why the closest thing on Earth resembling a libertarian nation is an 3rd world shit hole in complete chaos, survival of the most vicious, actual natural law.

For example to be not progressive and ungenerous is a laugh. Progressives are only generous with other people's money. Demonstrable fact.

The Gates, among other flaming liburhul progressives giving billions to charity make you demonstrably full of fuckin' shit.

 

[4est_4est_Gump]

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Libertarianism

Libertarianism is a political philosophy that upholds liberty as its principal objective. Libertarians seek to maximize autonomy and freedom of choice, emphasizing political freedom, voluntary association, and the primacy of individual judgment.

All libertarians begin with a conception of personal autonomy from which they argue in favor of civil liberties and a reduction or elimination of the state.

Actually, if you stop just looking for the first definition that you can find and study the writings of actual libertarians, who used to be Liberals, like our Founding Fathers, before the Progressives adopted the name (it sounded so erudite and learned), then you will discover that the underpinnings of Libertarianism are three legs of a stool, life, liberty and property. Property is the key, because the self is property and government has little right to steal any portion of your life merely to give to someone else. Therefore, it's basal philosophies are economic philosophies. I "own" me, you do not, even if you use the tyranny of the majority to form a government that will enslave me by stealing the fruits of my blood, toil, sweat and tears. The Father of Libertarianism, in the modern sense, is a fellow by the name of Murray N. Rothbard, one of the leading students of Ludwig von Elder Mises. I suggest you go to Mises.org and get your information straight from the horse's mouth rather than some uninformed goobledygook from Wikipedia.



The original Libertarian voice may very well have been Wilhelm von Humboldt and if you could find a copy of his work On the Limits of State Action, you will find the foundational thinking of limited government and the theft of life and liberty by the confiscation of property. Getting a free copy of Frédéric Bastiat's Sophisms of the Protectionists for a layman's discussion of the same topic.


A wise and frugal Government, which shall restrain men from injuring one another, shall leave them otherwise free to regulate their own pursuits of industry and improvement, and shall not take from the mouth of labor the bread it has earned. This is the sum of good government.
Thomas Jefferson

Property is surely a right of mankind as really as liberty. ... but the time would not be long before courage and enterprise would come, and pretexts be invented by degrees, ... in sharing it equally with its present possessors. Debts would be abolished first; taxes laid heavy on the rich, and not at all on the others; and at last a downright equal division of every thing be demanded, and voted. What would be the consequence of this? The idle, the vicious, the intemperate, would ... sell and spend all their share, and then demand a new division of those who purchased from them. ... anarchy and tyranny commence.
John Adams, 1787

"[W]hat limits ought to be set to the activity of the state," is "that the provision of security, against both external enemies and internal dissensions must constitute the purpose of the state, and occupy the circle of its activity."
Wilhelm von Humboldt

 

[4est_4est_Gump]

Any guesses on the political persuasion of the person that made those entries and that created the misuse of language there in?

For example to be not progressive and ungenerous is a laugh. Progressives are only generous with other people's money. Demonstrable fact.

See Penn Gillette's very good statement on the fact that voting to give things to other people is not charity. Charity is something you do of your own free will.

...but you go on thinking that because Progressive are very much involved in defining language that they are in fact bringing progress... what with them naming themselves Progressive.

Amen. Testify!

 

[OldJourno]

retrogressive, regressive, unmodernised, conservative, retrograde, throwback, returning, unordered, unmodernized, atavistic, reverting, disordered, inactive, decreasing

How about free? Freedom is the opposite of socialism.

 

[Sean]

How about free? Freedom is the opposite of socialism.

No it isn't.

 

[OldJourno]

No it isn't.

The socialists I know don't want me to have a gun, use salt, or drink soda. If that's the kind of freedom you have - what the socialists allow - you can keep it.

 

[Sean]

The socialists I know don't want me to have a gun, use salt, or drink soda. If that's the kind of freedom you have - what the socialists allow - you can keep it.

Then you obviously don't know any socialists.