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StillStunned said:
Avatar was a cool movie!
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Since this thread has long since descended into pointless nonsense and faux rancor, I'm just going to say, to throw gas on the fire . . . Avatar is a big steaming turd of a movie. It's a cartoon, with bad acting, bad writing, and a hopelessly simplistic and silly story. Its blockbuster success astonished me. The sequel was even worse. Boring.

I cannot think of another movie, offhand, with more cartoonishly rendered tropes and themes: the noble savages, the white saviors, the evil environment-exploiting corporation, the over the top nail-chewing military guy, the phony concept of environmental harmony. It's just one dumb trope after another, amped up to 11. I'm a big fan of many of James Cameron's movies, but in this one he let all his worst movie-making instincts run wild. Yuck. Blech.
 
Maybe I should add that I just wanted to get a rise out of @onehitwanda. I have no strong feelings about Avatar, and very little recollection of the story.
 
PennyThompson said:
It was fine, but I couldn't understand the message... It was too subtle and understated for me, I couldn't figure out who to cheer for and who the bad guys were🤔
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I know what you mean. But Giovanni Ribisi's character did it for me. There's something about weak, environment-destroying corporate weasels . . . oooh, don't get me started.
 
*flinches at the thought of anyone trying to provoke onehitwanda*

I must have been on an aeroplane some time, because I've seen it. My body-painting fetish might have excused the blue skin, and I remember there were big trees and pointy ears and... and a spaceship. I can't remember either hating it or liking it, or much of what happened. Did the blue people bound about a bit, like elves on drugs?
 
She is older than the rocks amid which she sits, and has trafficked in eastern seas...

There is a difference between old and eternal.
 
SimonDoom said:
Since this thread has long since descended into pointless nonsense and faux rancor, I'm just going to say, to throw gas on the fire . . . Avatar is a big steaming turd of a movie. It's a cartoon, with bad acting, bad writing, and a hopelessly simplistic and silly story. Its blockbuster success astonished me. The sequel was even worse. Boring.

I cannot think of another movie, offhand, with more cartoonishly rendered tropes and themes: the noble savages, the white saviors, the evil environment-exploiting corporation, the over the top nail-chewing military guy, the phony concept of environmental harmony. It's just one dumb trope after another, amped up to 11. I'm a big fan of many of James Cameron's movies, but in this one he let all his worst movie-making instincts run wild. Yuck. Blech.
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As a private pilot, both power and sailplane, I felt Avatar had the best filmed representation of the feeling of wonder and excitement of flight until TG: Maverick. Yeah, it was on dragons (Avatar, not Maverick), but that's how flight feels.

There used to be a presentation at Disneyland where everyone filed into a circular auditorium, and a 360-degree film was shown above everyone's heads. Several of the scenes in that movie were filmed from an aircraft, and a couple were deliberately designed to instil a feeling of the vertigo of flight.
 
JGittes said:
As a private pilot, both power and sailplane, I felt Avatar had the best filmed representation of the feeling of wonder and excitement of flight until TG: Maverick. Yeah, it was on dragons (Avatar, not Maverick), but that's how flight feels.

There used to be a presentation at Disneyland where everyone filed into a circular auditorium, and a 360-degree film was shown above everyone's heads. Several of the scenes in that movie were filmed from an aircraft, and a couple were deliberately designed to instil a feeling of the vertigo of flight.
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I concede that as pure visual spectacle, it had its moments. A big difference between it and Top Gun Maverick, which I enjoyed tremendously, was its overwhelming reliance on CGI. It just never seemed real to me.
 
PennyThompson said:
It was fine, but I couldn't understand the message... It was too subtle and understated for me, I couldn't figure out who to cheer for and who the bad guys were🤔
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"Oddly Sweet" Troublemaker!

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Fixed it for you ;)


I was going to stay out of this thread too! Though, now that it's descended into movie reviews, what the hell :)
 
SimonDoom said:
Avatar is a big steaming turd of a movie. It's a cartoon, with bad acting, bad writing, and a hopelessly simplistic and silly story
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Hot take:

The worst thing about Avatar was the animation. The ambition for the CGI did not live up to the capability of the CGI. Basically all the blue characters were trying too hard to "seem real" and not hard enough to just be the cartoons we all knew they were.

Kind of reminds me of what Robin Williams used to joke about Nancy Reagan and her makeup: "Isn't she lifelike!?" You only say that about things which are obviously not lifelike. Avatar's blue aliens weren't even lifelike.
 
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