Apparently, Obama like German women being raped.

[Liar]

I agree that organized religions suck, and give protection to the villains in their midst. However, I know of no other faith, besides Islam, that also preaches women are inferior creatures, fit only to serve men. Basically, Muslims who rape do not believe they are doing anything wrong, especially if the women are infidels in skimpy attire.

Rapists in general do not believe they are doing anything wrong. "She was asking for it, dressed like that" is the rationalization of every rapist mofo ever.

http://www.answeringmuslims.com/2014/02/does-islam-allow-muslims-to-rape-female.html

The article has nothing to do with your assertion. It does not adress whether Islam sanctions rape of infidels. It only claims that Islam sancions rape of captives and slaves. And it's even wrong about that.

 

[Hypoxia]

Biblical texts ordain women as men's property. Selling your sister or daughter is just fine. USA rape and abuse stats are highest in Bible Belt areas. Coincidence, or... ???

 

[Boxlicker101]

Rapists in general do not believe they are doing anything wrong. "She was asking for it, dressed like that" is the rationalization of every rapist mofo ever.

I realize some rapists do justify their actions as you describe, but not all, and probably not even most.

The article has nothing to do with your assertion. It does not adress whether Islam sanctions rape of infidels. It only claims that Islam sancions rape of captives and slaves. And it's even wrong about that.

There are thousands of articles on the subject. Here's another one: http://www.answeringmuslims.com/2014/02/does-islam-allow-muslims-to-rape-female.html

 

[Boxlicker101]

Biblical texts ordain women as men's property. Selling your sister or daughter is just fine. USA rape and abuse stats are highest in Bible Belt areas. Coincidence, or... ???

Are those texts from the OT? If so, they do not reflect the teaching of Jesus and are not Christian doctrines.

 

[JackLuis]

Are those texts from the OT? If so, they do not reflect the teaching of Jesus and are not Christian doctrines.

So, most of the Bible Thumpers don't care about values.

 

[sr71plt]

Are those texts from the OT? If so, they do not reflect the teaching of Jesus and are not Christian doctrines.

I'm game. Cite the texts in the Koran that call for rape of women. Ah, hell, let's throw in rape of men too.

You're being both provincial and pathetic again, Box.

 

[Liar]

I realize some rapists do justify their actions as you describe, but not all, and probably not even most.


There are thousands of articles on the subject. Here's another one: http://www.answeringmuslims.com/2014/02/does-islam-allow-muslims-to-rape-female.html

You linked to exactly the same ignorant and incorrect article again.

 

[Ulaven_Demorte]

Are those texts from the OT? If so, they do not reflect the teaching of Jesus and are not Christian doctrines.

Tell that to the "Christians" citing OT scripture when condemning homosexuals in opposition to the teachings of Christ.

“Not everyone can accept this teaching, but only those to whom it is given. For there are eunuchs who have been so from birth, and there are eunuchs who have been made eunuchs by others, and there are eunuchs who have made themselves eunuchs for the sake of the kingdom of heaven. Let anyone accept this who can.” (Matthew 19:11-12)

Here Jesus identifies three classes of men who should not marry women. Taking his categories in reverse order:
first, there are those who have made themselves “eunuchs” for the kingdom of heaven, i.e., those who swear off marriage to better serve God.
Second, he mentions those who have been “made eunuchs by others,” an apparent reference to castrated males.
But Jesus mentions a third category — eunuchs who were born that way.

In the ancient world, including ancient Jewish culture (as reflected in the Talmud), “natural” or “born” eunuchs were not associated with missing testicles. Rather, they were associated with effeminate characteristics and behavior. As a reasonably informed person of his time, Jesus would have been aware of this common view of eunuchs. Yet he very matter-of-factly asserts that some people are simply born that way. The implication of his statement is profound — God created gay people the way they are! Jesus says so.

 

[Boxlicker101]

Tell that to the "Christians" citing OT scripture when condemning homosexuals in opposition to the teachings of Christ.

“Not everyone can accept this teaching, but only those to whom it is given. For there are eunuchs who have been so from birth, and there are eunuchs who have been made eunuchs by others, and there are eunuchs who have made themselves eunuchs for the sake of the kingdom of heaven. Let anyone accept this who can.” (Matthew 19:11-12)

Here Jesus identifies three classes of men who should not marry women. Taking his categories in reverse order:
first, there are those who have made themselves “eunuchs” for the kingdom of heaven, i.e., those who swear off marriage to better serve God.
Second, he mentions those who have been “made eunuchs by others,” an apparent reference to castrated males.
But Jesus mentions a third category — eunuchs who were born that way.

In the ancient world, including ancient Jewish culture (as reflected in the Talmud), “natural” or “born” eunuchs were not associated with missing testicles. Rather, they were associated with effeminate characteristics and behavior. As a reasonably informed person of his time, Jesus would have been aware of this common view of eunuchs. Yet he very matter-of-factly asserts that some people are simply born that way. The implication of his statement is profound — God created gay people the way they are! Jesus says so.

What does this have to do with Muslims raping women?

 

[Boxlicker101]

I'm game. Cite the texts in the Koran that call for rape of women. Ah, hell, let's throw in rape of men too.

You're being both provincial and pathetic again, Box.

Well here's one: http://wikiislam.net/wiki/Rape_in_Islam

I could probably find thousands more if it was worth bothering with.

 

[sr71plt]

Well here's one: http://wikiislam.net/wiki/Rape_in_Islam

I could probably find thousands more if it was worth bothering with.

Oh, you mean like Thomas Jefferson and Sally Hemings. And Abraham and Hagar (we won't even get into Sarah being his half sister)

I agree you should stop trying to bother with this. But apparently you insist on digging yourself in deeper in the mud instead.

 

[phrodeau]

Numbers 31:7-18 in which Moses commands the Israelites to kill all the men, boys and adult women, and rape the virgins.

Deuteronomy 20:10-14 in which God commands that the Israelites are to kill the men who resist your army, and to keep all the women and children for your own pleasure.

Deuteronomy 21:10-14 in which the rules are given for choosing and preparing a rape victim.

Judges 21:10-24 in which the deeds of the Benjaminites are told, and how they stalked a festival and gang-raped the women.

 

[phrodeau]

Well here's one: http://wikiislam.net/wiki/Rape_in_Islam

I could probably find thousands more if it was worth bothering with.

Conclusion

From 4:24, it can be rightly assumed, that the Qur'an does not see any wrong-doing in Muslims having sex with captive women even if these women are married and their husbands are still alive. This clearly indicates that the Qur'an allows rape, as captive women, even in the unlikely case of agreeing to sexual intercourse, would still be having that intercourse under duress.

And so does the Holy Bible.

 

[Boxlicker101]

Numbers 31:7-18 in which Moses commands the Israelites to kill all the men, boys and adult women, and rape the virgins.

Deuteronomy 20:10-14 in which God commands that the Israelites are to kill the men who resist your army, and to keep all the women and children for your own pleasure.

Deuteronomy 21:10-14 in which the rules are given for choosing and preparing a rape victim.

Judges 21:10-24 in which the deeds of the Benjaminites are told, and how they stalked a festival and gang-raped the women.

These passages are from the OT, long before either the Christian Era or the birth of the child molester.

 

[phrodeau]

These passages are from the OT, long before either the Christian Era or the birth of the child molester.

They are still in the Holy Bible. Every Christian uses one at least once every seven days.

Go to a Christian church service some time. There will be a reading from the Old Testament, guaranteed.

 

[dan_c00000]

Box if you're such a tough (doubtful), Christian (yeah right) male (ha!) why don't you go sign up with these guys and send us pictures?

Or are you too big of a coward?

 

[Boxlicker101]

Box if you're such a tough (doubtful), Christian (yeah right) male (ha!) why don't you go sign up with these guys and send us pictures?

Or are you too big of a coward?

Actually, I don't even describe myself as a Christian, and my personal beliefs have nothing to do with this thread. What I am saying is that Middle East Muslims, in following their doctrine, have no negative thoughts about raping women who are "infidels." As for my individual actions against them, I am much too old to get physically involved.

 

[sr71plt]

I wouldn't suggest you describe yourself as a scholar of Islam, either.

 

[Boxlicker101]

I wouldn't suggest you describe yourself as a scholar of Islam, either.

I don't, but I do describe myself as literate.

 

[sr71plt]

I don't, but I do describe myself as literate.

Hokay.

 

[dan_c00000]

Actually, I don't even describe myself as a Christian, and my personal beliefs have nothing to do with this thread. What I am saying is that Middle East Muslims, in following their doctrine, have no negative thoughts about raping women who are "infidels." As for my individual actions against them, I am much too old to get physically involved.

So what you're saying is your an old, racist coward? Ok gotcha.

 

[Busybody]

So what you're saying is your an old, racist coward? Ok gotcha.

Idiot!

 

[Boxlicker101]

So what you're saying is your an old, racist coward? Ok gotcha.

Well, old, anyhow.

 

[dan_c00000]

Idiot!

Well, old, anyhow.

I found some more places for you two wanna-be war heroes to join up. They even take ladies.

 

[SEVERUSMAX]

At the risk of sounding Nietzschean, nearly every culture at one point or another has treated its own people as equal and protected, but outsiders were fair game for slavery, rape, slaughter, etc. If you doubt this, look at the rules for usury in the Torah. You could levy interest of heathens, but not of fellow Israelites. Those Christians who were quick to judge the Jews for moneylending perhaps didn't realize that the high rates were due to them being goyim and due to the taxes that they kept levying on the Jews, because, yes the Jews were not part of the Church, ergo, they were outside of "Christendom."

Anti-Semitism, anti-Islamism, anti-Christianity, etc. All of that is the historical "us vs. them," you're either one of us or a foreigner, kind of deal. We'll only truly embrace a brotherhood of man when we stop viewing some people as "them."