Are You Afraid?

[pensivepoet]

I'm more afraid of my redneck neighbors who think getting drunk and shooting guns is a fun way to pass the time than I am of terrorists.

We might be neighbours.

 

[vanillyicecream]

And many never do. They may not even know how to clean it properly. They load it and carry it. Or maybe the gun shop loaded it and it still has the same bullets in it years later sitting in a drawer.

And, you know this how?

 

[Hard_Rom]

Lots of law abiding safe gun owners out there. Who practice and stay current on training. Will better their chances of staying alive over an untrained one with a dirty weapon. Cops should be given powers to confiscate dirty weapons as a sign of incompetent use. Still have a greater chance of getting killed by than a gun than a non-gun owner, trained or untrained.

I must not fear. Fear is the mind-killer. Fear is the little-death that brings total obliteration. I will face my fear. I will permit it to pass over me and through me. And when it has gone past I will turn the inner eye to see its path. Where the fear has gone there will be nothing. Only I will remain.

 

[pensivepoet]

What happens when Pat Doe comes out shooting at the bad guys and ends up shooting innocents instead?

What happens when the police come in, see people shooting and can't figure out who is who?

This brings up another question.
You're at a school with a crazed shooter, so you duck in a closet.
Then you hear footsteps, then a voice saying they are the police and to come out.
What if it's really the shooter?
Stay silent?
Then the cops might pump a couple rounds through the door.
?

 

[Hard_Rom]

This brings up another question.
You're at a school with a crazed shooter, so you duck in a closet.
Then you hear footsteps, then a voice saying they are the police and to come out.
What if it's really the shooter?
Stay silent?
Then the cops might pump a couple rounds through the door.
?

No cop is going to intentionally put a couple of rounds through a school closet door because he thought someone was inside. Some private citizen might. Better someone else's child dies than theirs. A cop who shoots first in a school before visual confirmation of a real threat should get manslaughter at best.

 

[Five_Inch_Heels]

A cop who shoots first in a school before visual confirmation of a real threat should get manslaughter at best.

You haven't been paying attention to the news, have you?

They OFTEN shoot without confirmation and rarely face charges.

 

[Hard_Rom]

You haven't been paying attention to the news, have you?

They OFTEN shoot without confirmation and rarely face charges.

Not in school hostage incidents they don't. Black teenagers and young men walking or driving, yes apparently there may not be a season on them. But not a clearing operation during a school mass shooting? No!

 

[pensivepoet]

You haven't been paying attention to the news, have you?

They OFTEN shoot without confirmation and rarely face charges.

Sometimes when you post, in my mind your name becomes "five inch nails"
Hissss!

 

[johnbinight]

What happens when Pat Doe comes out shooting at the bad guys and ends up shooting innocents instead?

What happens when the police come in, see people shooting and can't figure out who is who?

You can do what ifs all day. What if my aunt had a dick, she'd be my uncle.

If there is no Pat Doe all the innocents are dead anyway by the time the cops show up.

The cops will be able to spot the good guy because he will have his weapon in his holster and his hands up by the time they show up. Or worst case the good guy will be dead and the cops will be able to tell who the bad guy is because they will be the aiming at the police.

 

[ms_ann_thrope]

I'm not afraid of dying.

 

[neci]

I'm more afraid of my redneck neighbors who think getting drunk and shooting guns is a fun way to pass the time than I am of terrorists.

me too. fucking homegrown nut jobs with loaded pistols, looking for any excuse to shoot.

 

[Five_Inch_Heels]

me too. fucking homegrown nut jobs

http://abcnews.go.com/US/man-build-ray-weapon-kill-muslims-sentenced-prison/story?id=35807538

 

[vanillyicecream]

And many never do. They may not even know how to clean it properly. They load it and carry it. Or maybe the gun shop loaded it and it still has the same bullets in it years later sitting in a drawer.

me too. fucking homegrown nut jobs with loaded pistols, looking for any excuse to shoot.

http://abcnews.go.com/US/man-build-ray-weapon-kill-muslims-sentenced-prison/story?id=35807538

LMAO! I live near Camden, NJ. We don't worry about guys building radiation machines or home grown nutjobs. We have real thugs with illegal guns who mean harm.

It would be so nice to be this blissfully ignorant.

 

[Paul_Chance]

I support the right to keep and bear death rays! LOL

 

[snugglestruggle]

I'm more afraid of my redneck neighbors who think getting drunk and shooting guns is a fun way to pass the time than I am of terrorists.

Alcohol & Guns don't mix so your fear is warranted.

Well yeah...But what is the scoop? The news media thinks we are afraid, almost paralyzed to here them tell it.

News media? You mean Propaganda arms of the DNC don't you?

Trump and increased gun sales say as much about levels of fear as do tears and boo hooing. Now vote in a lefty liberal and get some common sense gun control in, in the face of terrorism. And we can talk about how unafraid Americans are.

The house on the street with the fence, pitbull and guns is way more afraid than the hippy house with a lawn full of artsy stuff.

Every time Obummer runs out after a shooting tragedy and starts yapping about restricting gun ownership thru Common sense laws (read that as Gun registration which is a precursor to confiscation),lines form at gun stores. He is the greatest gun salesman since Sam Colt. It's fear of not being able to get one later that is driving sales mostly.

Everyone always spouts what they would do if someone came in and started shooting shit up... Out of all the mass shootings in the United States, how many shooters were stopped by the bullet of one of the crowd? There has to of been someone who was armed. Why didn't they shoot?

Answer? Was it the human nature of self preservation? Honestly, I really have no clue. I just cant see someone who is scared enough to run out and buy a gun to protect themselves from terrorists would use it in an instance of terror...

Maybe I'm wrong.

To begin with nobody should carry a gun if they're not prepared to use it. So they better be proficient in it's use. Some may not want to draw it in fear of hitting bystanders, or liability or out of fear. You don't know unless you been thru that or the moment comes. The Terrorist thing is a ridiculous reason to by a gun.

I don't post much in these, but I feel compelled to answer this.

Maybe it's because movie theaters, schools, etc. are "gun free zones?" And the vast majority of gun owners honor that? And just maybe the "bad guys" know this, and target those?

There are any number of instances of c/c owners breaking up this kind of stuff in other spots. Just maybe there isn't much publicity because it doesn't fit the agenda?

People "running out to buy a gun to protect themselves from terrorists?" LOL! People by guns for more reasons than that.

OK, back to lurking.

Gun free zones are just a stupid idea. How many shootings have happened in these zones? Pretty much every single one. The only exception I can think of was a shooting at a police station.

If your drawing your gun during some crime in progress you call or someone calls the cops and says armed friendly on the scene and you give them your name/description of what your wearing etc.

You can have a lot of fun shooting guns but most who are anti gun have never fired one. so guns = Bad.

"John Waynes." Well, you made up your mind. You obviously don't know any gun owners. Everyone I know go to the range on a regular basis. As for how anyone would react, I'll give you that. Who knows? But comparatively few gun owners are what you think they are.

I'm done.

Truth

It amazes me that citizens of other countries always seem to care and judge what Americans do in America. *shrugs* If you don't like the fact that we can legally own weapons to defend our families and our property, here's a secret...too bad!

Mind your own business and carry on. I would think you'd have enough to do making sure your own country is run properly. 'Nuff said.

What she said x's 2

And many never do. They may not even know how to clean it properly. They load it and carry it. Or maybe the gun shop loaded it and it still has the same bullets in it years later sitting in a drawer.

This ^ is utter bull shit.

Lots of law abiding safe gun owners out there. Who practice and stay current on training. Will better their chances of staying alive over an untrained one with a dirty weapon. Cops should be given powers to confiscate dirty weapons as a sign of incompetent use. Still have a greater chance of getting killed by than a gun than a non-gun owner, trained or untrained.

I must not fear. Fear is the mind-killer. Fear is the little-death that brings total obliteration. I will face my fear. I will permit it to pass over me and through me. And when it has gone past I will turn the inner eye to see its path. Where the fear has gone there will be nothing. Only I will remain.

Back to the Op's question, I'm afraid of people that think like you. You are scary.

This brings up another question.
You're at a school with a crazed shooter, so you duck in a closet.
Then you hear footsteps, then a voice saying they are the police and to come out.
What if it's really the shooter?
Stay silent?
Then the cops might pump a couple rounds through the door.
?

Cell phone, call 911, you tell the operator where you are in the school and that you have a gun. The cops will properly identify themselves.

You can do what ifs all day. What if my aunt had a dick, she'd be my uncle.

If there is no Pat Doe all the innocents are dead anyway by the time the cops show up.

The cops will be able to spot the good guy because he will have his weapon in his holster and his hands up by the time they show up. Or worst case the good guy will be dead and the cops will be able to tell who the bad guy is because they will be the aiming at the police.

Best possible outcome.

 

[Five_Inch_Heels]

Guns are just a stupid idea.

There. Fixed that for ya'.

 

[Sean Renaud]

So an American...a citizen of the USA in this case, (Y'all are welcome) are you afraid of...everyday life because of the terrorist?

Guns, especially Handguns seem to make a nice Christmas present this year.

I have talked to no one who indicated they were afraid or any of their families for that matter.

Most indicate a desire to get off a round or two if it happens. I hear this a lot...

"If I go down, I want to go down fighting!"

The attitude of having a desire for law enforcement to use aggressive detection methods while respecting the average citizens and privacy in often talked about at work.

What say ye?

Nope, not afraid. There is little to be afraid of and if it's a violent death then the more guns we remove the better off we'll be but regardless my odds are low. If we wanted to improve things getting the media involved in telling us what things are actual risk and that we could mitigate might be wise.

I'm afraid what another Democrat president will do to our country.

Don't be. This one didn't do much of anything. If you're afraid of a thrice damned Centrist like Hillary well your fears are not well founded. Worst case scenario she lands close to Obama than GW (Even though I think her temprament is closer to Bush.) The only way Hillary might be more dangerous than any president in the last 30 years is that this is her LIFE. She actually understands all the nuances of how it works and might be capable of moving the unwieldy beast we call government. But in reality I think the Right hates her nearly as much as they hate Obama and that any roadblock they can throw up they would.

 

[Liar]

It amazes me that citizens of other countries always seem to care and judge what Americans do in America. *shrugs* If you don't like the fact that we can legally own weapons to defend our families and our property, here's a secret...too bad!

Mind your own business and carry on. I would think you'd have enough to do making sure your own country is run properly. 'Nuff said.

It is my business. I have family, friends and quite literally business there.

 

[neci]

LMAO! I live near Camden, NJ. We don't worry about guys building radiation machines or home grown nutjobs. We have real thugs with illegal guns who mean harm.

It would be so nice to be this blissfully ignorant.

i grew up in the city and had friends shot. you can shove your ignorance up your alterated ass.

 

[vanillyicecream]

i grew up in the city and had friends shot. you can shove your ignorance up your alterated ass.

Sure you did.

 

[Oh_That_Guy]

And many never do. They may not even know how to clean it properly. They load it and carry it. Or maybe the gun shop loaded it and it still has the same bullets in it years later sitting in a drawer.

You just made all that up.

 

[ms_ann_thrope]

LMAO! I live near Camden, NJ. We don't worry about guys building radiation machines or home grown nutjobs. We have real thugs with illegal guns who mean harm.

It would be so nice to be this blissfully ignorant.

Why don't you move...idiot?

 

[Lorilei]

We might be neighbours.

My neighbors aren't even smart enough to know that there should not be a "u" in "neighbors".

 

[neci]

My neighbors aren't even smart enough to know that there should not be a "u" in "neighbors".

...

 

[vanillyicecream]

Why don't you move...idiot?

Cherry Hill isn't bad, but we do get the overflow. Could be worse, living outside AC isn't great.