Bernie IS a Demagogue

[dan_c00000]

Doesn't bother me at all.

Thanks for acknowledging that you don't give a shit about those less fortunate then you. You and your buddy bot can go happily rejoice knowing that your Nazi hero Trump is having children killed on your behalf.

 

[KeithD]

Thanks for acknowledging that you don't give a shit about those less fortunate then you. You and your buddy bot can go happily rejoice knowing that your Nazi hero Trump is having children killed on your behalf.

In the aggregate of what Carnal_Flower posts, I think you are off base in your characterization of this poster.

 

[dan_c00000]

In the aggregate of what Carnal_Flower posts, I think you are off base in your characterization of this poster.

In the aggregate maybe, sure, who knows?

In this thread I'm 100% correct. Unless he's got some evidence to the contrary that billionaires aren't doing exactly what I said they are my judgement holds.

 

[KeithD]

In the aggregate maybe, sure, who knows?

In this thread I'm 100% correct. Unless he's got some evidence to the contrary that billionaires aren't doing exactly what I said they are my judgement holds.

That's one issue--and only partial one at that, when it came with a "tax the shit out of them" factor. You've made a sweeping judgment that Carnal_Flower is a Trumpette. I don't think you've researched that view at all well.

If someone called you a Trump minion here, I'd say the same in your defense--from having read your posts and not going over the top if you disagreed with me on one specific issue.

Incidentally, Carnal_Flower is registered as female and that's how I've always seen this poster. Am I missing some revelation?

 

[Ziggins]

Bernie gets so much hate because the rest of the party has nothing better to offer, in candidates and ideals.

 

[Carnal_Flower]

JK Rowling is a "Billionaire." Burn her at the stake!!

Thanks for acknowledging that you don't give a shit about those less fortunate then you. You and your buddy bot can go happily rejoice knowing that your Nazi hero Trump is having children killed on your behalf.

 

[KeithD]

Bernie gets so much hate because the rest of the party has nothing better to offer, in candidates and ideals.

Bernie's not in the party. Neither are most of his supporters. The Democrats had a whole lot of good candidates and ideas--some of them even with actual plans to getting something done, in contrast to Bernie. And Bernie doesn't get the hate that Bernie's followers dump on anyone who isn't Bernie.

See, you're worrying for nothing.

 

[dp4shelly]

Such a pathetic cast of characters...

Such a pathetic cast of characters all wanting to rule the world. All believing or at least claiming to believe that somehow their great leadership would right all the wrongs. And yet century after century governments come and go. People suffer under the corrupt rulership. They shed their blood and the blood of their sons and daughters. The trajectory remains the same. Circling the drain in a downward spiral. The horror that is coming to this planet is beyond description.

 

[dan_c00000]

That's one issue--and only partial one at that, when it came with a "tax the shit out of them" factor. You've made a sweeping judgment that Carnal_Flower is a Trumpette. I don't think you've researched that view at all well.

Never called carnal a Trumpette. Merely that her stance on this aligns with Trump (and Republican) values. How about instead of you white knighting for her you let her speak?

As far as I can see she's got no actual proposals as to how to fix the issues with billionaires doing more or less as they please.

JK Rowling is a "Billionaire." Burn her at the stake!!

Oh wait, my mistake, she's got one: violence.

 

[great lover]

I listened to Bernie's rant I mean speech tonight, and I noticed he does something Trump does: he refers to him and his supporters as "us" and "our" movement. He doesn't mean all America he means his personality cult. In contrast Biden quoted the Pledge of Allegiance and spoke about uniting the COUNTRY. Bernie is about Bernie and his followers taking over the "Establishment" just like Trump and the swamp. Biden said it's about taking back democracy. He's the better candidate.

Its 4 more years of Trump, so the democrat nomination will not matter at all.

The left wing logic is:

Biden is boring, boring is good!

 

[KeithD]

Thanks for acknowledging that you don't give a shit about those less fortunate then you. You and your buddy bot can go happily rejoice knowing that your Nazi hero Trump is having children killed on your behalf.

Sure you did. You absolutely did call her a Trumper.

 

[KeithD]

Biden is boring, boring is good!

Actually, set off against Trump, boring absolutely is going to be preferable to masses of voters. They've just made a point about that in the Biden-Sanders struggle.

That said, neither you, I, nor anyone else can claim to know who's going to win the presidency this year. Your bravado on that just reveals your nervousness.

 

[Carnal_Flower]

You are off your gourd.

News flash: There was extreme poverty before the rise of the so called Billionaire Class. This isn't about all of those "less fortunate," which could after all be a rally cry throughout all time. THIS wealth inequality problem is more about the shrinking Middle Class and "the first generation to do worse than their parents". So not some virtuous purity test but more people wanting a share of the big pie.

I don't offer solutions to the Billionaire problem because I don't think there is one. That's a Bernie talking point people have latched onto. Of course wealth inequality is a problem but it can't be reduced to one single scapegoat.

IVE already said what I think. Reform the Tax Code. Reverse Citizens United. Pass ALL the Den Bills sitting on Mitch McConnell's desk. Put Elizabeth Warren as Commerce Secretary. Crack down on lobbyists.

The only thing I'm not supporting is the ridiculous rhetoric coming from Bernie Bots.

The more I hear him the more I hear conspiracy theory that is a mirror image of Trump, just replace The Deep State with The Establishment.

Never called carnal a Trumpette. Merely that her stance on this aligns with Trump (and Republican) values. How about instead of you white knighting for her you let her speak?

As far as I can see she's got no actual proposals as to how to fix the issues with billionaires doing more or less as they please.



Oh wait, my mistake, she's got one: violence.

 

[dan_c00000]

IVE already said what I think. Reform the Tax Code. Reverse Citizens United. Pass ALL the Den Bills sitting on Mitch McConnell's desk. Put Elizabeth Warren as Commerce Secretary. Crack down on lobbyists.

You said none of this until now. It's about time.

By the way if you think that the billionaires who control the politicians are just going to let you do that...well you'd better take a look at just one example of rich assholes run amok. Wells Fargo is a particularly good example run by people who stole from their own customers, got a slap on the wrist, and continued doing what they pleased.

I'm sorry but you're wrong you need more than good intentions to make these changes. A little naming and shaming the billionaire class might just do the trick though. How do I know this? Because Sanders did that with Amazon.

 

[Ziggins]

The top of the pyramid is the most dangerous place to live. Billionairrogance may end in violent death, by someone else who wants that spot, lynch mob, the billionaire's own bodyguards, etc.

 

[Carnal_Flower]

Oprah's a Billionaire.

I think I blame Politicians more than the rich. The elected officials can tell them to F Off.

The top of the pyramid is the most dangerous place to live. Billionairrogance may end in violent death, by someone else who wants that spot, lynch mob, the billionaire's own bodyguards, etc.