Bigger is best?

[psychocatblah]

I think there's some good points made here. My two cents on the thinness of the fashion models... well, how much easier is it to design clothes for a straight board rather than real bodies with real flaws? And what we see every day is what we started to covet. So everyday, because of the whims of fashion designers to want to do things with clothing (which is their art and I don't begrudge them this) we see the fairly figureless waifs. And we start to think that this is how we should look. Probably wasn't the intended message, but intent and outcome are rarely coincident.

To an extent I'd agree that shallow men persue shallow women who probably diet and are crabby but can be shown off ot friends. Not someone I'd desire to be with anyways, so I never quite got into that dieting pattern.

I've always thought confidence is sexy. Gluttony isn't sexy, so I think either end of the scale isn't attractive. Gluttons can be over-eaters OR under-eaters, imho. But maybe there's another aspect to why men would like being with chubbier women... probably those women don't nitpick their mates quiet so much either. Perhaps in accepting themselves, they're more able to accept others.

Or maybe they only polled chubby chasers.

 

[psychocatblah]

I have to whole-heartedly agree with you there. Monica and Rachel both looked like toothpicks in the later episodes. They had pretty faces but even there they were to thin. I thought Phoebe was usually the best looking one of the group.

I even wrote a celebrity story about it, "I Get Friendly with Friends".

Many years ago I remember reading some dumb article, probably in a waiting room, where they called Jennifer Aniston's figure "a little hippy." Her? Hippy? Pfft. Nonsense. I'll show you hips, buddy!

 

[NoJo]

As a man of some (hem hem) experience in the matter, I can tell you that fat women ROCK!!





...while thin ones tend to sort of fall over

 

[ABSTRUSE]

As a man of some (hem hem) experience in the matter, I can tell you that fat women ROCK!!





...while thin ones tend to sort of fall over

and we roll baby!!!

 

[Svenskaflicka]

Jeanne relented.

You may think she should have kept this one, or destroyed it.

View at your own peril - this is considered erotic.

Og

Well, some men like to get suffocated while jerking off..?

 

[Svenskaflicka]

I heard a rumour that Courtney Cox was actually getting a raise for each kilo she got rid of.

 

[Carl East]

I've always had this belief, that if a woman hasn't got a face to fit that figure it doesn't matter how slim she is. As for answering the thread, I've always liked a bit of meat on the bones. Not just aesthetically, but for practical reasons as well. I enjoy having something to grip for a start, I also think that bigger women are less likely to mess around.

All of which are valid reasons for any man to like the extra cuddly types. But at the end of the day, it comes down to how an individual likes their own looks and screw what anyone else thinks.

Carl

 

[BlackSnake]

You are right. The message is there if we pay attention to it. We need to get the young girls in this country to learn this now!
JJ

Maybe women aren't really seeing the change going on. Young girls are showing their belly's and not their spins as much. I'm seeing this from 19 to 23 y/o's on campus. Thicker thighs and bigger butts, though they insist on push bras.

I'm thinking, if a woman's body is hard wouldn't she be more like a man other than the obvious hole between her legs?

 

[Svenskaflicka]

Quote the Norwegian boy about having sex with a skinny girl: "Det vore ju akkurat som og kjore pikken i en spikepakker".

Translation: "It would be like driving your dick into a box of nails."

 

[ABSTRUSE]

Quote the Norwegian boy about having sex with a skinny girl: "Det vore ju akkurat som og kjore pikken i en spikepakker".

Translation: "It would be like driving your dick into a box of nails."

This is like the Golden Girls and Svenska is Rose!

 

[Svenskaflicka]

That's HORRIBLE!

I hate those St Olaf-references! "When we celebrate Birgurundur Day..."

And people can't tell the difference between Sweden and Norway...

 

[CharleyH]

Wishful thinking.

OH! The other bigger

 

[Boxlicker101]

I think there's some good points made here. My two cents on the thinness of the fashion models... well, how much easier is it to design clothes for a straight board rather than real bodies with real flaws? And what we see every day is what we started to covet. So everyday, because of the whims of fashion designers to want to do things with clothing (which is their art and I don't begrudge them this) we see the fairly figureless waifs. And we start to think that this is how we should look. Probably wasn't the intended message, but intent and outcome are rarely coincident.

To an extent I'd agree that shallow men persue shallow women who probably diet and are crabby but can be shown off ot friends. Not someone I'd desire to be with anyways, so I never quite got into that dieting pattern.

I've always thought confidence is sexy. Gluttony isn't sexy, so I think either end of the scale isn't attractive. Gluttons can be over-eaters OR under-eaters, imho. But maybe there's another aspect to why men would like being with chubbier women... probably those women don't nitpick their mates quiet so much either. Perhaps in accepting themselves, they're more able to accept others.

Or maybe they only polled chubby chasers.

I can't believe that women would be so silly as to think they should try to look like fashion models unless, as I have sometimes heard, women dress etc. to please other women. Surely they don't believe that men are especially attracted to women who look like Ally McBeal. Can't they see that it's the zoftig young women who get all the ogles and whistles?

Shallow men pursue good-looking women without regard to other facts about them. Unless they are models or actors or others dependent on their looks to succeed, persons who are overly concerned with their appearance tend to be rather shallow. To that degree, shallow men do pursue shallow women.

Confidence is sexy. Obesity is not. Kate Winslett and the woman on Blacksnake's posts are not chubby but I would call them curvy, which is the kind I much prefer. Chubby is okay, certainly better than skinny. As for chubby persons not being nit-pickers, that is probably so. Those who enjoy life and don't let themselves be controlled by what other people think tend not to be nit-pickers. They are the kind of women I

 

[psychocatblah]

Confidence is sexy. Obesity is not. Kate Winslett and the woman on Blacksnake's posts are not chubby but I would call them curvy, which is the kind I much prefer. Chubby is okay, certainly better than skinny. As for chubby persons not being nit-pickers, that is probably so. Those who enjoy life and don't let themselves be controlled by what other people think tend not to be nit-pickers. They are the kind of women I

I don't think anything in too much of an extreme is going to be sexy. But I tend to like more Marilyn Monroe than Twiggy. I think one person here said that larger women are less likely to cheat. I don't think that's true. Sure, if they're huge they'd probably have less opportunity than some, but where there is a will there is a way.

 

[CharleyH]

ROFL

“A recent survey found that men are more likely to stray if their partners are slender. The survey found an incredible 64% of men with partners under size 12 admitted to cheating.”

What they don’t tell you about this part: that the men cheat because they already feel relatively inadequate since their wives have already cheated. Believe me, it's not like she won’t get the chance every time she goes to the store.

“And 7 in 10 faithful men admitted they prefer a size 16 and over.”

Interesting, so this explains the success of Playboy and escort agencies filled by women under size 12! Leave the skinny thing at home, and go pay a few hundred for a different skinny thing

”One theory is that those with skinny wives and girlfriends could be more interested in looks alone - ensuring they're on the lookout for someone even more attractive.”

LOL - Not quite.

“A woman [or man] who is confident in the way they look- whether size 10 or 16 - is extremely sexy.”

Agree.

NEMESIS

“their scarecrow figures are the butt of almost as many jokes as lawyers.” You should edit to add full figured women and men for that matter.

“she has to diet constantly to stay slim.” OH PULEASE -LOL

“People who are on diets are much less jovial and congenial than those who don't mind indulging.” The big girls that I know are always on a diet. So explain this again?

DR. M/ZOOT:

“Think of the women you know who are fashionably thin. I mean thin like a magazine model. They're all neurotic, aren't they? They're either bulimic or anorexic or just obsessed with dieting. That's why men leave them.”
LOL

SVENSKA

“I think I'll agree with the theory that guys who prefer skinny girls are the shallow type who is more interested in chasing Barbiedolls to show off to his friends, than to actually settle down and have a relationship with a woman.”
LOL. Ya, those are the guys I go out with, and those are the kind of guys my friends want. BRING ON THE SHALLOW MEN! LOL

PSYCHOCAT
“how much easier is it to design clothes for a straight board rather than real bodies with real flaws?”
Not true, designers make all of their runway clothing a standard size so that if something happens during a show or a shoot, another model can slip into the clothes just as easily. With exceptions, unless you are referring to me a few years ago, I have yet to see a figureless waif

SUB JOE
LOL – I think you were referring to tipping cow’s, ‘cuz I know I don’t blow that easy

BOX:
“Surely they don't believe that men are especially attracted to women who look like Ally McBeal.”

Perhaps in your world it’s the big ladies who get the whistles and the calls. Ever walked down the street with a model? I’m pretty sure you’d change your tune. And you want to know what kinds of things are said to these models on EVERY block they walk? I’m not even sure Lit can quite imagine. You think said models like the whistles and calls? LOL Oh ya, makes them feel like fucking. LOL

 

[ABSTRUSE]

I'm content to know that if I'm ever on a plane full of Models and we crash into the Andes, I'll live longer due to my body fat, plus I'll have plenty to eat to survive.

 

[psychocatblah]

Re: ROFL

PSYCHOCAT
?how much easier is it to design clothes for a straight board rather than real bodies with real flaws??
Not true, designers make all of their runway clothing a standard size so that if something happens during a show or a shoot, another model can slip into the clothes just as easily. With exceptions, unless you are referring to me a few years ago, I have yet to see a figureless waif

Perhaps in your world it?s the big ladies who get the whistles and the calls. Ever walked down the street with a model? I?m pretty sure you?d change your tune. And you want to know what kinds of things are said to these models on EVERY block they walk? I?m not even sure Lit can quite imagine. You think said models like the whistles and calls? LOL Oh ya, makes them feel like fucking. LOL

Defensive much?

But the point still stands that girls look at fashion magazines and want to be like the models. And that whether because of ease of design or ease of replacing models, it was never voted upon by men or women, nor was it even a conspiracy to up the rate of eating disorders from the fashion industry. The models are glamourised and sexed up to show off the clothes, not to set the standard for the only fuckable people in the world.

As for the voting of the whistlers on the streets, well... they whistle for a lot of reasons. Usually because they find the person attractive, sometimes out of sheer bordome, sometimes even just to see if the person will blush or react.

I'm actually a little puzzled as to how they got the results anyways. I don't think my husband could name what size I wear. Where did these guys get polled from? And what kind of conclusions are we seriously supposed to draw from it?

Maybe the guys with the portly women were also portly themselves and didn't get a chance to cheat? Maybe the cheating guys didn' t know what size their wives were and answered smaller? Or maybe... just maybe... this little quiz with result was flawed from the start because cheating isn't really about dress size to begin with.

Just a thought.

 

[CharleyH]

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Abs, that was ABSolutely hilarious!!!

psychocat
"Defensive much?"

You'll have to get used to my tone, I am never defensive. There's no reason to be.

"But the point still stands that girls look at fashion magazines and want to be like the models."

So you are saying they don't have a mind of their own and can't do anything but zone, stepford style?

As for the vote thing. I don't understand the vote thing. Didn't women get it?


The whistles. There are whistles, and then there are whistles, and then there is obnoxiousness, and then there is intimidation, and then there is down right nastiness, and then there is threat, and then there is the phone call to the police. You'd be surprised to know this happens more 'oft than not, from a whistle. You'd also be surprised to know that some men actually do think they are going to have their brains fucked out because they whistle or spout a variety of colourful and charming things.

 

[ABSTRUSE]

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The whistles. There are whistles, and then there are whistles, and then there is obnoxiousness, and then there is intimidation, and then there is down right nastiness, and then there is threat, and then there is the phone call to the police. You'd be surprised to know this happens more 'oft than not, from a whistle. You'd also be surprised to know that some men actually do think they are going to have their brains fucked out because they whistle or spout a variety of colourful and charming things.

Maybe you should stop walking naked to the market for your half and half, then you won't get so many catcalls.

Wanna go for a plane ride over the Andes?

 

[CharleyH]

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Maybe you should stop walking naked to the market for your half and half, then you won't get so many catcalls.

Wanna go for a plane ride over the Andes?

Sure, LOL, 'cuz apparently I can eat you

 

[ABSTRUSE]

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Sure, LOL, 'cuz apparently I can eat you

OUCH!!!!!!!

 

[psychocatblah]

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"But the point still stands that girls look at fashion magazines and want to be like the models."

So you are saying they don't have a mind of their own and can't do anything but zone, stepford style?

As for the vote thing. I don't understand the vote thing. Didn't women get it?


The whistles. There are whistles, and then there are whistles, and then there is obnoxiousness, and then there is intimidation, and then there is down right nastiness, and then there is threat, and then there is the phone call to the police. You'd be surprised to know this happens more 'oft than not, from a whistle. You'd also be surprised to know that some men actually do think they are going to have their brains fucked out because they whistle or spout a variety of colourful and charming things.

Teenagers? Have a mind of their own? Hm. Well they seem to when it comes to what their parents tell them, but it's just such a time of self discovery and a needy time where so many of them just want to be noticed and special.

Because we are special, just like everyone else.

And no, it's not cause and effect, not every person looks at a fashion magazine and feels badly about themselves. But it does affect many people that way and leads some people to think that the only way to be loved or adored is to be thin like that. Despite the fact that probably that model has genes that support her thinness.

I'd be surprised stalking happened that often from a whistle. I think it happens more often than I think and less often than what you say might imply. I tend to go spontaneously deaf at whistles. Maybe a defense mechanism. I've had other odd dealings with obsessed men, but never from just a whistle. That's fairly frightening, actually.

 

[CharleyH]

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Abs, LOL - NOT THAT KIND OF EAT!!!! Do I need to spell things out for you - L-O-L

I'd be surprised stalking happened that often from a whistle. I think it happens more often than I think and less often than what you say might imply.

Hm, you haven't been on Lit long enough have you? LOL

 

[alyxen]

I think it is a little of both main concepts which have been posted:

Men looking to fall in love, will do so regardless of mass/size. A man in love, to me, is MUCH more likely to be faithful than a man in lust.

I also think the woman's attitude has a lot to do with it. If you, as a woman, don't love your body, it will be more difficult for others to.

If you accept and love yourself (in more ways than one ), it is easier for others to see and get to know the real you.

 

[Guest]

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Hm, you haven't been on Lit long enough have you? LOL

Hi Charley