Blessed are the peacemakers...

[coati]

Then as I am, I am sure you look forward to the inevitable inquiry once Netanyahu is hoofed out of power as to why, having known about the plan of Hamas to attack a week before it happened, the Israeli security forces (and Government?) did absolutely nothing to stop them, leading to what you describe as "the worst genocide of the Jews since the Holocaust".

And why did Israel prop up Hamas for years in their zeal to prevent the formation of a Palestinian state under the leadership of Abbas?

 

[BrightShinyGirl]

My answer, as promised.

No.

And if I may I will start with the deaths of 3 hostages who were bare chested, carrying a white flag and saying 'Help' in Hebrew when they were murdered by the IDF.

(And yes, if you kill unarmed civilians under a white flag - then that for me is murder. They are not 'combat' deaths).

Accidentally killing hostages trying to surrender is a ghastly mistake, but the ultimate responsibility for their deaths lies with the kidnappers who put them in that dangerous situation.

Was Gaza justified in attacking Israel on October 7th, 2023?

 

[LeahWill]

Accidentally killing hostages trying to surrender is a ghastly mistake, but the ultimate responsibility for their deaths lies with the kidnappers who put them in that dangerous situation.

Was Gaza justified in attacking Israel on October 7th, 2023?

It was not a "ghastly mistake"
They took aim at 3 unarmed men carrying a white flag and fired.
The result was precisely what was intended when they pulled the triggers.

But in answer to your question, I find it very difficult to lay the blame for October 7th on a piece of land.
So no.

You fervently believe your cause is a just one and that allows you accept the death of innocent children in pursuit of that cause.
Does everyone who fervently believes their cause is a just one also get that free ticket, or is it just Israelis who are allowed it?

And if you want me to answer any subsequent question you may have you need to answer the above first

 

[Philthy_Phil]

 

[BrightShinyGirl]

It was not a "ghastly mistake"
They took aim at 3 unarmed men carrying a white flag and fired.
The result was precisely what was intended when they pulled the triggers.

But in answer to your question, I find it very difficult to lay the blame for October 7th on a piece of land.
So no.

You fervently believe your cause is a just one and that allows you accept the death of innocent children in pursuit of that cause.
Does everyone who fervently believes their cause is a just one also get that free ticket, or is it just Israelis who are allowed it?

And if you want me to answer any subsequent question you may have you need to answer the above first

The Jews have the right to live in peace in their indigenous homeland. The same is true for all indigenous peoples. They have the right to defend themselves from genocide even if that defense may sometimes involve the death of innocent children.

 

[SebastianHolt]

No, trumptards are the scum of the earth. They are all Nazi pedophiles.

Wow, you have some serious mental issues

 

[SebastianHolt]

No, trumptards are the scum of the earth. They are all Nazi pedophiles.

You realize JD Vance will be the next POTUS

 

[LeahWill]

The Jews have the right to live in peace in their indigenous homeland. The same is true for all indigenous peoples. They have the right to defend themselves from genocide even if that defense may sometimes involve the death of innocent children.

Fascinating.

Let me know when, if ever, you are confident enough to answer the question actually asked

 

[JohnEngelman]

Do you accept that Hamas is responsible for all innocent deaths in Gaza? Not just the people they murdered on October7th, and the hostages they killed afterward.

All of the Gazans they got killed by starting an unprovoked war.

A war that Israel is winning, by the way.



The Palestinians ae the only people I know of who continue to demand conditional surrender from and the extermination of a nation that has defeated them time and time again.

The Arabs lose wars and expect to benefit from it.

 

[AnomalyLady]

Are you MAGA dude?

 

[BrightShinyGirl]

Fascinating.

Let me know when, if ever, you are confident enough to answer the question actually asked

I might be a bitch, but I’m not your bitch. I’ll post what I like.

 

[LeahWill]

I might be a bitch, but I’m not your bitch. I’ll post what I like.

Okeydoke.











Coward.

 

[Philthy_Phil]

Are you MAGA dude?

No, I only fuck adults.

 

[Noor]

The swap should be 1:1, but Israel puts a higher value on human life than

I might be a bitch, but I’m not your bitch. I’ll post what I like.

You can be mine, if you’d like

 

[Noor]

beats me how one dead Israeli is deemed more valuable than one dead Palestinian

anyone suggesting Palestinians don't value the lives of their loved ones just as much as a jewish (and let's face it, we all know she meant 'jewish') family does, clearly sees jewish people as 'superior' to non-jewish palestinians with the non-jewish being worth only one fifteenth of a jewish person! that is fucking insane and can only serve to fuel anti-semetic sentiments in that warped faction of the population!

It’s the Palestinians who negotiated the numbers, not Israel. In the Jewish law, you pay whatever you need to in order to redeem hostages. Palestinians know this and use it to their advantage. It has nothing to do with perceived worth from the Jews.
So the Palestinians should hate theirselves for deciding that their worth is less?

 

[butters]

It’s the Palestinians who negotiated the numbers, not Israel. In the Jewish law, you pay whatever you need to in order to redeem hostages. Palestinians know this and use it to their advantage. It has nothing to do with perceived worth from the Jews.
So the Palestinians should hate theirselves for deciding that their worth is less?

I was directly referring to BSG's statement about palestinians valuing the lives of their people less. My post was to point out the ridiculous ugliness of that statement

it also reinforces the stupendously large number of Palestinian detainees Israel is currently holding, most of whom were snatched up AFTER Oct.7th just for leverage. hamas is wrong, 100%, no argument. Israel is even more wrong, given the numbers that dwarf the hostages held by hamas. It was moot to barter for 15 of their dead loved ones back per each dead Israeli hostage, simply because there are so many

 

[dmallord]

Trump handed Bibi a phone and ordered him to call Qatar and apologize for that bombing. He made him do it in a room full of people, one of whom was a top aide from Qatar. According to people present, he also told Bibi if he didn't do it, he would halt all US aid to Israel.

Unconfirmed whisper echoing in the halls of truth. Unverified on FactCheck.org

 

[Noor]

I was directly referring to BSG's statement about palestinians valuing the lives of their people less. My post was to point out the ridiculous ugliness of that statement

it also reinforces the stupendously large number of Palestinian detainees Israel is currently holding, most of whom were snatched up AFTER Oct.7th just for leverage. hamas is wrong, 100%, no argument. Israel is even more wrong, given the numbers that dwarf the hostages held by hamas. It was moot to barter for 15 of their dead loved ones back per each dead Israeli hostage, simply because there are so many

The prisoners asked for by Hamas weren’t prisioner of the war they started on Oct 7, but convicted murderers/terrorists from before.
Check out the list.
This is not a pow exchange this is kidnapped hostages in exchange for murderers.
Of course the hostages are much less than the prisoners, Isreal doesnt commit terrorist acts for pay on Gazans.
If you are unfamiliar with the kill Israelis for pay, check it out. The pa gives pensions to families of “ mayors” who kill Israelis.

 

[Noor]

The prisoners asked for by Hamas weren’t prisioner of the war they started on Oct 7, but convicted murderers/terrorists from before.
Check out the list.
This is not a pow exchange this is kidnapped hostages in exchange for murderers.
Of course the hostages are much less than the prisoners, Isreal doesnt commit terrorist acts for pay on Gazans.
If you are unfamiliar with the kill Israelis for pay, check it out. The pa gives pensions to families of “ mayors” who kill Israelis.

As Hamas is currently killing off Gaza clans/families, provided for shelters for the non Hamas Gazan people to go during the war “ the tunnels are for us ( Hamas), the people are the responsibility of the UN” they seem to value dead Gazans more than live ones except members of Hamas.

 

[Philthy_Phil]

Was Gaza justified in attacking Israel on October 7th, 2023?

derp.

 

[RobDownSouth]

Accidentally killing hostages trying to surrender is a ghastly mistake, but the ultimate responsibility for their deaths lies with the kidnappers who put them in that dangerous situation.

"Accidently"....."ghastly"......."ultimate responsiblity"

Typical rationalizations to deflect blame.

Was Gaza justified in attacking Israel on October 7th, 2023?

Yes. The Israelis decided not to man the gates of the "world's largest outdoor concentration camp" and a fed up Gazan population took advantage of Netanyahu's colossal error in judgment (moving border troops to the West Bank to begin the ethnic cleansing there).

Like I've continually said "Actions have consequences".

Treat people like animals for eleven years (and calling them "animals" like you, Noor and Laz often do).....I would say "You reap what you sow" but that has no meaning to an atheist such as yourself (as well as "God's chosen people", the 95% ethnic Polish squatters who have chosen to no longer believe in the Old Testament in their new theocratic kingdom.

Israelis will never own up to the fact that it was their own hatred towards Gaza, and incompetence by the administration they elected, who own 100% of the blame for the last 13 years.

 

[wallstreetguy]

Trump is the Teddy Roosevelt of our day. He won the Prize for ending the Russo Japanese War.
https://www.axios.com/2025/10/10/gaza-trump-wars-ended-israel-nobel-prize

 

[BrightShinyGirl]

"Accidently"....."ghastly"......."ultimate responsiblity"

Typical rationalizations to deflect blame.



Yes. The Israelis decided not to man the gates of the "world's largest outdoor concentration camp" and a fed up Gazan population took advantage of Netanyahu's colossal error in judgment (moving border troops to the West Bank to begin the ethnic cleansing there).

Like I've continually said "Actions have consequences".

Treat people like animals for eleven years (and calling them "animals" like you, Noor and Laz often do).....I would say "You reap what you sow" but that has no meaning to an atheist such as yourself (as well as "God's chosen people", the 95% ethnic Polish squatters who have chosen to no longer believe in the Old Testament in their new theocratic kingdom.

Israelis will never own up to the fact that it was their own hatred towards Gaza, and incompetence by the administration they elected, who own 100% of the blame for the last 13 years.

The hostages are coming home! It’s a joyful day today!

 

[Noor]

The hostages are coming home! It’s a joyful day today!

7 home, 13 picked up by Red Cross, it should be soon! Idf already showing pictures of the the first 7, and they are standing unaided.
Tomorrow the dead come home.

 

[BabyBoomer50s]