Borrowed Plumes: the Fan Fic challenge - support thread

[anthrodisiac]

Well, if I wasn't going to write this anthro deathclaw story before...

 

[StillStunned]

Just a little bumpety-bump to raise awareness for this event. If you start writing now, you'll have three and a half months to stare at half a page of story before racing to finish before the deadline. So what are you waiting for?

I'll admit that I haven't give much thought to my own story, so I'm stuck with my idea of Leia as a covert Sith agent. But I'm not sure I have the energy to create the sweeping story to do the idea justice.

 

[SkyBubble]

Lit also has recently taken a stance against NC and Mind Control in fanfic.

Not that recent. I have a story here about a minor celebrity that I had to trim a good bit from th version that is on other sites because of her reluctance. She retained one weak no, but that was it.

 

[SkyBubble]

JK Rowling is a TERF who funds anti-trans groups.

Her politics are left of center, except in this one area, and she's been crucified by her own side for it.

 

[Rob_Royale]

Just a little bumpety-bump to raise awareness for this event. If you start writing now, you'll have three and a half months to stare at half a page of story before racing to finish before the deadline. So what are you waiting for?

I'll admit that I haven't give much thought to my own story, so I'm stuck with my idea of Leia as a covert Sith agent. But I'm not sure I have the energy to create the sweeping story to do the idea justice.

Thanks. I've got mine all laid out in my head. Just need to give it some seat time.
Are we still planning to load up only the fan fiction category with these?

 

[anthrodisiac]

Thanks. I've got mine all laid out in my head. Just need to give it some seat time.
Are we still planning to load up only the fan fiction category with these?

I'm probably going SF&F or Non-Human for my deathclaw story. Haven't decided on which. Celebrities and Fan-Fic is pretty dead, I dunno if I'd want to put something there unless there was no other category that made sense.

 

[SkyBubble]

"Oh Kool-Aid!" she screamed in pleasured agony.
"OH YEAH!" he bellowed as he broke through her hymen.

Cherry flavor, obviously.

 

[SkyBubble]

We can submit more than one, correct?

I've been kicking around an idea based on a Shakespeare play.

 

[StillStunned]

I'm probably going SF&F or Non-Human for my deathclaw story. Haven't decided on which. Celebrities and Fan-Fic is pretty dead, I dunno if I'd want to put something there unless there was no other category that made sense.

Pah, where's your faith in the power of positivity? Reviews & Essays was like the opening scene from "Childe Roland to the Dark Tower Came" before the WIWAW challenge. Did that deter us?

To quote General Melchett, " If nothing else works, then a total pig-headed unwillingness to look facts in the face will see us through."

 

[anthrodisiac]

Pah, where's your faith in the power of positivity? Reviews & Essays was like the opening scene from "Childe Roland to the Dark Tower Came" before the WIWAW challenge. Did that deter us?

To quote General Melchett, " If nothing else works, then a total pig-headed unwillingness to look facts in the face will see us through."

I think it met the power of negativity and became neutral on the whole subject.

 

[Rob_Royale]

I'm probably going SF&F or Non-Human for my deathclaw story. Haven't decided on which. Celebrities and Fan-Fic is pretty dead, I dunno if I'd want to put something there unless there was no other category that made sense.

Pah, where's your faith in the power of positivity? Reviews & Essays was like the opening scene from "Childe Roland to the Dark Tower Came" before the WIWAW challenge. Did that deter us?

To quote General Melchett, " If nothing else works, then a total pig-headed unwillingness to look facts in the face will see us through."

If I recall correctly part of the idea was to give that category a boost and some reader traffic.
Is that not still the plan? If so, is everyone going to be down for that? The story I have in the works is fantasy.

 

[StillStunned]

If I recall correctly part of the idea was to give that category a boost and some reader traffic.
Is that not still the plan? If so, is everyone going to be down for that? The story I have in the works is fantasy.

Definitely. Some of Lit' categories are stagnant simply because they're stagnant: few stories means low readership means few stories etc.

The Fan-Fic event is supposed to encourage writers to try their hand at a neglected category and at the same time remind readers of its existence.

If I were Laurel (may she live forever), I'd make sure every entry gets published in C&FF. Give the category a month-long shot of adrenaline.

 

[dirk2024]

I have a question about fanfic.

I am riffing on an old TV show. Should I create new names for the characters I am roughly copying (with new mannerisms) or use the same names as the original show?

 

[anthrodisiac]

I have a question about fanfic.

I am riffing on an old TV show. Should I create new names for the characters I am roughly copying (with new mannerisms) or use the same names as the original show?

If you're making significant modifications to behaviors, maybe new characters in the same TV universe is better. But if it's the same characters with slight changes, then you're probably better off using the OG characters.

 

[anthrodisiac]

Definitely. Some of Lit' categories are stagnant simply because they're stagnant: few stories means low readership means few stories etc.

The Fan-Fic event is supposed to encourage writers to try their hand at a neglected category and at the same time remind readers of its existence.

If I were Laurel (may she live forever), I'd make sure every entry gets published in C&FF. Give the category a month-long shot of adrenaline.

I might have to reconsider then, I wasn't aware this was part of the impetus. It's just my stuff already languishes without being in mostly dead categories, so it feel extra "no one will bother." But I don't want to cut across the spirit of the challenge, nor its goal.

 

[dirk2024]

If you're making significant modifications to behaviors, maybe new characters in the same TV universe is better. But if it's the same characters with slight changes, then you're probably better off using the OG characters.

So there's no danger in possibly violating any copyrights?

One thing I have is the theme song, trying to re-write it so I'm not flaunting the powers that be.

 

[Rob_Royale]

So there's no danger in possibly violating any copyrights?

Copyright and Fair Use​

A parody may qualify as fair use if it imitates a copyrighted work to comment on or critique it. Courts evaluate fair use using a four-factor test:

1. Purpose and Character of Use: Transformative works that add new meaning or critique the original are favored, even if commercial.
2. Nature of the Copyrighted Work: Creative works receive stronger protection; factual works may allow broader fair use.
3. Amount and Substantiality: Only the portion necessary to evoke the original should be used; copying the “heart” of the work may weigh against fair use.
4. Effect on the Market: If the parody harms the market for the original, it may not qualify as fair use.

 

[anthrodisiac]

So there's no danger in possibly violating any copyrights?

One thing I have is the theme song, trying to re-write it so I'm not flaunting the powers that be.

Theme song is a bit murkier I think (though I'm not sure why it would be), but fanfic of a particular character is generally okay, as long as there isn't any mind control or non-con elements. The only other rule I'm aware of is you can't "age up" characters, as in if soeone is 16 in a story, you can't do a story where they're 18.

 

[Rob_Royale]

1. Effect on the Market: If the parody harms the market for the original, it may not qualify as fair use.

I think this is the one that protects us here at Literotica the most. For a story here to harm a franchise is crazy talk.

 

[Kumquatqueen]

We can submit more than one, correct?

I've been kicking around an idea based on a Shakespeare play.

Same. There was a Shakespeare challenge in the Writer Challenges topics, but I don't think anyone has done one yet.

 

[AchtungNight]

Speaking of Star Wars (StillStunned mentioned it), I saw the Mandalorion movie today. It was great fun, and has a few interesting characters. The woman who inspired my recurring female lead Lisa found Rotta the Hutt “handsome and inspiring, someone I’d don the slave Leia getup for”. The image of that bothers me a bit, but we have an agreement about our fantasies. I think I would gladly call Rotta a friend and comrade, though. Erotically, I’m more into Sigourney Weaver’s character personally. There’s Mando too, for series regulars (he’s the only one of his kind in the film, unfortunately). The film is highly recommended- go check it out, Star Wars fans.

 

[ZinJ]

Can this include fanfic based on the work of another writer on Literotica who never finished their story?

 

[StillStunned]

Can this include fanfic based on the work of another writer on Literotica who never finished their story?

Lit doesn't allow writers to use stories of other writers without express permission. So you'd need to get that permission, otherwise it's a "no."

It's a grey area - the whole fan fic thing is quite nebulous - but I think it has to do with appropriation of the IP.

If I write my story about Princess Leia being turned to the Dark Side while a prisoner on the Death Star, nobody will ever think that the characters and setting are my original creation. Star Wars is part of the collective consciousness, and everyone recognises the difference between licenses works and fan fic. My story won't have a shred of impact on Disney's IP. Not a single reader will assume that the events of my story are canon.

But a writer on Lit doesn't have the same protection for their stories and characters. If someone else writes a continuation of fan fic, there's a real chance that it will overshadow the original. Even with an explicit disclaimer, it's possible that readers will start associating the world with the new writer.

Maybe @Laurel can add her thoughts?