Stella_Omega
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I have never read it.God it's been ages since I read The Well of Loneliness, I actually used Radclyffe as an example when I was told that lesbians were a new trend that hadn't existed earlier then the last 50 years and were a product of all the gays making a storm and corrupting others to their cause.
I was thinking about that as I posted the pic, in fact.By the way, I don't know but buck has always been an entirely different class that really has no association with butches. I like butch women because I see them as women, masculine and gender-bending but still women. Buck.... just is, I see him as a guy. I still appreciate him(a great deal) but he's still a he.

I have never read it.I was thinking about that as I posted the pic, in fact.
maybe I'll start him his own thread.![]()
God it's been ages since I read The Well of Loneliness, I actually used Radclyffe as an example when I was told that lesbians were a new trend that hadn't existed earlier then the last 50 years and were a product of all the gays making a storm and corrupting others to their cause.
By the way, I don't know but buck has always been an entirely different class that really has no association with butches. I like butch women because I see them as women, masculine and gender-bending but still women. Buck.... just is, I see him as a guy. I still appreciate him(a great deal) but he's still a he.
Well, Butch, as Etoile pointed out, is attitude, not body, and i was wrong to introduce Buck Angel or any other transmen into this thread.
A butch woman can be curvy as all hell, it's her attitude, her approach, the way she interacts with her lovers, that makes her butch. In pictures of course, that attitude comes across better when the woman has a more masculine appearance, and I admit I have a special love for masculine-looking women!
Espie, that clit comes with testosterone. That's the only way you can get one, and it comes along with thicker body hair, dropped voice, all the male markers. I wonder if the T could be pinpointed to minimise the other effects, though-- could do some digging through Google on that, I suppose...
Butch attitude, femme body
I like the attitude, the look, but that body is all woman
http://www.afterellen.com/sites/www.afterellen.com/files/images/jennyshimizu.jpg
and to me at least, this isn't butch, but sexy yes.
Well, Butch, as Etoile pointed out, is attitude, not body, and i was wrong to introduce Buck Angel or any other transmen into this thread.![]()

Dear god I love me some Jenny Shimizu.
"Butch/Femme: Inside Lesbian Gender" is a really awesome book. I think it might be out of print now, but look around...it's well worth getting.
yes, they really are, although, of course, all three things can be part of one person's identity.Thank you. Like I said earlier, butch women are not "men with pussies" - you didn't want to discuss identity so I left it alone, but I do think they really are two different things (and drag kings are a third thing!).
yes, they really are, although, of course, all three things can be part of one person's identity.
This is Buck Angel, Transman porn star;
http://bp0.blogger.com/_hr8iaA4NHXQ/SAR_FFGeRaI/AAAAAAAAAq4/naT2R9rhOdA/s400/sex+transmen+porn1.jpg
More here
im amazed,really thought it was a guy from the face
Well, there are low dose testosterone patches that men and women can use for low sex drive. I think they might work. It would probably take forever, though, if they do work for clit enlargement. There are also testosterone creams similar to the estrogen ones women use. There's also the injection option. (which is most likely the fastest, but probably not highly preferred, since in involves intecting testosterone directly into the person's dick/clit)Well, Butch, as Etoile pointed out, is attitude, not body, and i was wrong to introduce Buck Angel or any other transmen into this thread.
A butch woman can be curvy as all hell, it's her attitude, her approach, the way she interacts with her lovers, that makes her butch. In pictures of course, that attitude comes across better when the woman has a more masculine appearance, and I admit I have a special love for masculine-looking women!
Espie, that clit comes with testosterone. That's the only way you can get one, and it comes along with thicker body hair, dropped voice, all the male markers. I wonder if the T could be pinpointed to minimise the other effects, though-- could do some digging through Google on that, I suppose...
Join me in the subzero of my heart, darlingThat too is true...and also people change over time! Everybody is a special snowflake, ESPECIALLY ME.
haha, I can just imagine wearing that patch on my clit day in day out... I would rather take the few seconds of electric agony of a shot, I think. The pain goes away, the clit lasts.Well, there are low dose testosterone patches that men and women can use for low sex drive. I think they might work. It would probably take forever, though, if they do work for clit enlargement. There are also testosterone creams similar to the estrogen ones women use. There's also the injection option. (which is most likely the fastest, but probably not highly preferred, since in involves intecting testosterone directly into the person's dick/clit)