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Fucking noob thinks I've never been trolled before. At least try to be good at it. Lol.
Charlie Kirk shot at Utah event, suspect in custody
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10 points higher than you.
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Loved my Honda Goldwing.
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Same. An engineering marvel. Power, speed, agility, reliability, and comfort. I appreciated how quiet it was too. A lot of riders don’t realize how prolonged ambient noise can be damaging to hearing. Rode it for 10 years.Loved my Honda Goldwing.
I sometimes would go on group rides with Harley owners and before starting my bike, I’d jokingly warn them to cover their ears and apologize in advance for my “loud pipes.”
I’m down to one bike now. Indian Roadmaster. Enjoy the gentle rumble of a V twin on backroads and admire the vintage styling, especially the skirted front fender. Amazing how often people walk over and comment on it at gas stations.
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You just glide from place to place. I was never into the noise factor. Harley’s we’re beautiful bikes but I enjoyed the comfort of my radio and long rides in comfort.
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Yeah. And stock Harleys (as well as Indians and metric V twins from Japan) are not loud.
It’s the guys that install aftermarket loud pipes. Bad for their ears and frankly, annoying to everyone around.
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You may not be aware of my posting history with Rapey. It's been apparent for years he's an irredeemably hyperpartisan fuckhead.
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AGain, you simply choose to ignore it.
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Don't you understand? Merely asking for him to take a moment is violence and that justifies whatever he feels like doing in return.
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According to you, with your narrow definition of "empathy" as agreeing with your politics.
Charlie Kirk waged a war against empathy.
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Remember how the 2017 congressional baseball shooting by a Bernie Sanders supporter got spun as "right-wing" by some corners until facts emerged? Thie left is pulling the same trick now, expecting us to forget.
Authorities recovered a bolt-action rifle Robinson abandoned, along with shell casings engraved with explicitly anti-fascist messages like "Hey fascist! Catch!" (accompanied by the three-arrows anti-Nazi symbol), "Oh bella ciao, bella ciao, bella ciao ciao ciao" (a WWII Italian partisan anthem against Mussolini's fascism), and even some Gen Z/gamer slang like "Notices, bulges, OwO what's this?"—none of which scream "right-wing." Robinson's Discord chats showed him ranting about Kirk as a "fascist." Groypers typically criticize Kirk and similar mainstream conservatives (e.g., those at Turning Point USA) as "cuckservatives." not fascists.
"Hey, Fascist! Catch!" has no known connection to Fuentes or his movement. “Fascist” is mostly a left-wing insult in their eyes. Groypers see it as something liberals, mainstream conservatives, or “the establishment” throw around to shut down debate. “Hey, fascist! Catch!” doesn’t align with groyper rhetoric. Groypers, followers of Nick Fuentes’ so-called “America First” movement (which is actually the opposite), often embrace or ironically reclaim the “fascist” label. They’ll often mock the word itself -- like “lol everything’s fascist if you disagree with them” -- so they don’t typically deploy it seriously as an insult against others.
Prominent groypers, such as podcaster Connor Betts (aka "Pinesap"), have self-identified as fascist without apparent shame. A groyper using such slogans would be highly inconsistent with their worldview, which often mocks or vilifies anti-fascist movements like Antifa.
The three arrows were designed in 1932 by Sergei Chakhotin, a Russian-born socialist, and adopted by the Iron Front, a German paramilitary group formed by the Social Democratic Party (SPD) to counter the rising Nazi Party, as well as monarchists and communists. The arrows, pointing downward and to the left, symbolized opposition to three enemies: fascism (Nazis), monarchism, and communism. It is often used by Antifa. The Social Democrats are on the left.
"Bella Ciao" is an Italian anti-fascist song often used by Antifa. It has no known connection to Fuentes or Groypers.
Robinson’s shell casings, with their anti-Nazi three-arrows symbol and partisan anthem references, are straight out of the Antifa playbook.
A friend, family members, and the Governor all say he was a leftist. Robinson's high school friend described Robinson's political beliefs as "pretty left on everything" and noted he was "the only member of his family that was really leftist." During a family dinner shortly before the shooting, Robinson discussed Charlie Kirk critically, calling his views "full of hate and spreading hate," A groyper wouldn’t call a conservative “full of hate.” That phrasing is very liberal-coded — it sounds like MSNBC or an Antifa flyer. Groypers define themselves against that rhetorical frame. They want to be the ones accused of “hate” (because then they can say the establishment is trying to silence them).
The consistent portrayal from peers and family paints him as ideologically left-leaning in a conservative household.
(The report on the friend comes from The Guardian, a left-leaning paper. Its editorial stance often aligns with progressive or center-left positions—supporting social justice, climate action, and critiques of conservative figures or policies. Studies, like a 2018 YouGov poll, show that its readership in the UK leans heavily toward Labour and Liberal Democrats, with about 40% identifying as left-wing. The report is against their ideological interest.)
The claim that Fuentes called Kirk fascist is all based on second-hand information.
If somebody from a nice Republican family shows up with three arrows, shouting “Hey, fascist!” and accusing conservatives of being “full of hate” — that really does fit the outlier leftist in a conservative household profile.
If later a left-leaning publication says their source confirms he was “pretty far left on everything” and “the only leftist in the family,” that lines up exactly with what we’d expect. Groypers don’t use those words or symbols -- they hate them. So regardless of family background, the behavior tracks left-wing/antifascist, not groyper.
The alt-right’s collectivist, conflict-driven approach (e.g., race as a unifying struggle) mimics Marxist structures. Both woke left and alt-right are identity-based, not individual-based. Both see society as fundamentally about group conflict. The alt-right’s worldview is explicitly identity-based, emphasizing racial hierarchies and cultural exclusivity, often framing whites as victims of multiculturalism. This mirrors, in structure, the progressive left’s focus on identity groups.
Both Marxists and the alt-right seek to collapse society to impose their own visions. The alt-right isn’t truly “right.” Liberal democracy is the essence of what's called "right wing" philosophy. It's rooted in protecting the values that have worked for millennia, a free economy, government that restricts itself to (in Russell Kirk's words) "provid[ing] a tolerable degree of order so that liberty may flourish," and a strong, but not intrusive foreign and defense policy. It prefers equality under the law to "equity" and individual rights to groups. It si communitarian, but in a non-collectivist way. Marxists and alt-rightists oppose all of that.
The alt-right often critiques unchecked capitalism, favoring protectionist or statist policies. For instance, Spencer’s National Policy Institute opposes free markets. Marxists advocate abolishing private property and capitalism.
The alt-right envisions a strong state. The alt-right prioritizes group identity, as the "woke" left also does.
Both reject the old-school “legitimate right” (limited government, rule of law, individual liberty, free markets). They’re mirror-image tribal movements competing to replace classical liberalism and traditional conservatism.
Authorities recovered a bolt-action rifle Robinson abandoned, along with shell casings engraved with explicitly anti-fascist messages like "Hey fascist! Catch!" (accompanied by the three-arrows anti-Nazi symbol), "Oh bella ciao, bella ciao, bella ciao ciao ciao" (a WWII Italian partisan anthem against Mussolini's fascism), and even some Gen Z/gamer slang like "Notices, bulges, OwO what's this?"—none of which scream "right-wing." Robinson's Discord chats showed him ranting about Kirk as a "fascist." Groypers typically criticize Kirk and similar mainstream conservatives (e.g., those at Turning Point USA) as "cuckservatives." not fascists.
"Hey, Fascist! Catch!" has no known connection to Fuentes or his movement. “Fascist” is mostly a left-wing insult in their eyes. Groypers see it as something liberals, mainstream conservatives, or “the establishment” throw around to shut down debate. “Hey, fascist! Catch!” doesn’t align with groyper rhetoric. Groypers, followers of Nick Fuentes’ so-called “America First” movement (which is actually the opposite), often embrace or ironically reclaim the “fascist” label. They’ll often mock the word itself -- like “lol everything’s fascist if you disagree with them” -- so they don’t typically deploy it seriously as an insult against others.
Prominent groypers, such as podcaster Connor Betts (aka "Pinesap"), have self-identified as fascist without apparent shame. A groyper using such slogans would be highly inconsistent with their worldview, which often mocks or vilifies anti-fascist movements like Antifa.
The three arrows were designed in 1932 by Sergei Chakhotin, a Russian-born socialist, and adopted by the Iron Front, a German paramilitary group formed by the Social Democratic Party (SPD) to counter the rising Nazi Party, as well as monarchists and communists. The arrows, pointing downward and to the left, symbolized opposition to three enemies: fascism (Nazis), monarchism, and communism. It is often used by Antifa. The Social Democrats are on the left.
"Bella Ciao" is an Italian anti-fascist song often used by Antifa. It has no known connection to Fuentes or Groypers.
Robinson’s shell casings, with their anti-Nazi three-arrows symbol and partisan anthem references, are straight out of the Antifa playbook.
A friend, family members, and the Governor all say he was a leftist. Robinson's high school friend described Robinson's political beliefs as "pretty left on everything" and noted he was "the only member of his family that was really leftist." During a family dinner shortly before the shooting, Robinson discussed Charlie Kirk critically, calling his views "full of hate and spreading hate," A groyper wouldn’t call a conservative “full of hate.” That phrasing is very liberal-coded — it sounds like MSNBC or an Antifa flyer. Groypers define themselves against that rhetorical frame. They want to be the ones accused of “hate” (because then they can say the establishment is trying to silence them).
The consistent portrayal from peers and family paints him as ideologically left-leaning in a conservative household.
(The report on the friend comes from The Guardian, a left-leaning paper. Its editorial stance often aligns with progressive or center-left positions—supporting social justice, climate action, and critiques of conservative figures or policies. Studies, like a 2018 YouGov poll, show that its readership in the UK leans heavily toward Labour and Liberal Democrats, with about 40% identifying as left-wing. The report is against their ideological interest.)
The claim that Fuentes called Kirk fascist is all based on second-hand information.
If somebody from a nice Republican family shows up with three arrows, shouting “Hey, fascist!” and accusing conservatives of being “full of hate” — that really does fit the outlier leftist in a conservative household profile.
If later a left-leaning publication says their source confirms he was “pretty far left on everything” and “the only leftist in the family,” that lines up exactly with what we’d expect. Groypers don’t use those words or symbols -- they hate them. So regardless of family background, the behavior tracks left-wing/antifascist, not groyper.
The alt-right’s collectivist, conflict-driven approach (e.g., race as a unifying struggle) mimics Marxist structures. Both woke left and alt-right are identity-based, not individual-based. Both see society as fundamentally about group conflict. The alt-right’s worldview is explicitly identity-based, emphasizing racial hierarchies and cultural exclusivity, often framing whites as victims of multiculturalism. This mirrors, in structure, the progressive left’s focus on identity groups.
Both Marxists and the alt-right seek to collapse society to impose their own visions. The alt-right isn’t truly “right.” Liberal democracy is the essence of what's called "right wing" philosophy. It's rooted in protecting the values that have worked for millennia, a free economy, government that restricts itself to (in Russell Kirk's words) "provid[ing] a tolerable degree of order so that liberty may flourish," and a strong, but not intrusive foreign and defense policy. It prefers equality under the law to "equity" and individual rights to groups. It si communitarian, but in a non-collectivist way. Marxists and alt-rightists oppose all of that.
The alt-right often critiques unchecked capitalism, favoring protectionist or statist policies. For instance, Spencer’s National Policy Institute opposes free markets. Marxists advocate abolishing private property and capitalism.
The alt-right envisions a strong state. The alt-right prioritizes group identity, as the "woke" left also does.
Both reject the old-school “legitimate right” (limited government, rule of law, individual liberty, free markets). They’re mirror-image tribal movements competing to replace classical liberalism and traditional conservatism.
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Wall Street Journal:
“It’s very clear to us and to the investigators that this was a person who was deeply indoctrinated with leftist ideology,” Cox said in an interview with the Journal. A person familiar with the investigation said the information about Robinson’s views came from conversations with his family.
https://www.wsj.com/us-news/who-tyl...fd21f?st=BsE9HU&reflink=article_copyURL_share
“It’s very clear to us and to the investigators that this was a person who was deeply indoctrinated with leftist ideology,” Cox said in an interview with the Journal. A person familiar with the investigation said the information about Robinson’s views came from conversations with his family.
https://www.wsj.com/us-news/who-tyl...fd21f?st=BsE9HU&reflink=article_copyURL_share
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He’s up for the death penalty. That would be a better death.
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The kid was transtifa.
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What does this mean?
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Does anyone have a video of what Charlie was saying before he was shot?
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Don’t have the vid but he was answering a question about Trans…speculation was it may have been timed to coincide with the shot. That has NOT been verified…just questioned.
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Is this said with his drink as fuck brain or no?
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I have suspicions about who was asking it.
There was a group text with Tyler and someone else.
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Speaking of Trans…Standard caveat applies: Be wary of reports that don’t identify sources by name. If the alleged partner is being “extremely cooperative” with law enforcement, we should know soon if this report is true.
EXCLUSIVE: Charlie Kirk’s alleged assassin was in a “romantic relationship” with a transgender partner with whom he shared an apartment, senior-level FBI officials tell FOX News Digital. The partner has been “extremely cooperative” with law enforcement, sources say.
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