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It takes money to do research. Nothing new here. NOAA and others has been collecting data on the climate for decades. Decades of right and left funding.
What changed?
What changed? Are you serious? It all changed when the political class saw what turned out to be bogus science into an excuse to raid the taxpayers wallet and restrict their freedoms, that's what changed.
Ishmael
jbj, you're probably posting that the ice ages that earth slips into from time to time are a lie created by Obama.
Bogus science? We only knew the trends were changing so radically because of the data collected back in the "good old days" prior to your team losing a couple of elections.
You did not answer my question. What changed? What changed is the fact that you do not like funding that benefits humanity. You like funding to increase the potency of nuclear weapons and engineer drones controlled from Vegas to blast undesirables on the other side of the world.
the climate in this thread changed pretty quick bro!
Stew
It did not!Nothing changed. Nothing at all. Nope. Nada.
Nothing.
They didn't, and still aren't, using 'trends'. They're still using the "Hockey Stick" prognostication to try to scare the shit out of the citizenry. Trends are trends, those are based on real measurements. Prognostications are based on unproven assumptions, assumptions that have proven to be of no value at all. They may as well have cast bones or read goat entrails for all the value they've proven to be.
It's no different than the ancient priests that could anticipate a solar eclipse, who then demanded alms from the people so they could 'perform a ritual' to make the Sun come back. And God knows there are enough fools out there to believe them.
Ishmael
100% of Stew's say that the climate is changing bro!
Stew
4 out of 5 dentists would put their kids through college thanks to Stew(s).
That is bullshit. NOAA is trying to find trends. This is not just y=mx+b shit. There are a ton of variables. Could man be one? Possibly. Proper science looks at all the possible impacts and filters out the noise. Repeat.
You have a stick up your ass because of Obama and the Left. Very nice. It is your stick and far be it from me to pull it out of there.
That and he's the poster child for prophelactics.![]()
*chuckle* Just can't keep stay on topic, can you? Trying to turn the discussion to politics at every opportunity, blame it on me, while hiding behind an organization that keeps churning out bogus prognostications based on guessed climate interactions. Bravo!!!!
Ishmael
I've read all that shit before. Who cares, seriously, who cares?
Further, why are you arguing with me? Dolfette started the thread mocking all of the 'true believers.' Am I just a target of convenience? Afraid that taking dolfette on might tarnish your fluffy side? I merely agreed with her.
NOAA and the rest of the gang are now on an intense hunt to find the missing heat. It always seems to be where they don't have the capability of measuring it. And each major experiment they've initiated to find it has backfired on them.
Re. the trend towards warming. I've never argued that it isn't. The numbers speak for themselves on that measure. We are reaching the peak of an interglacial period and it never seems to sink in that what happens during an interglacial is that it WARMS UP. So in that respect I'm nether surprised nor alarmed. The overall trend still seems to be following the glacial/interglacial oscillations that the Earth has been going through for the past million years or so.
And looking at the long term bright side, the initiation of another glaciation will deal ruthlessly with the human over population problem.
Ishmael
It seems to me climate runs thru ellipsoid cycles, like planetary orbits, where there are periodic extremes in conditions. But things don't change much over time.
They're called the Milankovitch Cycles.
Ishmael