Collusion

[Colonel Hogan]

Well....poor fella.

WASHINGTON — President Trump said on Wednesday that he never would have appointed Attorney General Jeff Sessions had he known Mr. Sessions would recuse himself from overseeing the Russia investigation that has dogged his presidency, calling the decision “very unfair to the president.”

https://mobile.nytimes.com/2017/07/19/us/politics/trump-interview-sessions-russia.html

Part of me thinks Sessions should immediately resign therein clearing the way for the President to appoint an AG who will not recuse himself from overseeing the Russian investigation and will follow the President's wishes explicitly in micro-managing its shutdown thus finally paving the way for Trump making good on his apparent determined efforts to commit an all-out, unarguable obstruction of justice and force even the most loyal Republican members of Congress to vote for impeachment.

This is the most mind-boggling self-destructive political actor to ever take the public stage.

 

[Aglaopheme]

Well, keep in mind it's Trump himself who is calling it "opposition research".

I have my doubts, based on what's publicly known to-date, that anything illegal occurred, but obviously that remains to be seen.

Yeah, though it's pretty amazing to me that Kushner could "forget" about such a meeting. I'm just calling BS on that.

Ha, yeah. But he was at Trump Tower at the time of the meeting and I can't think of any reason the Secret Service would have any control on access to the meeting otherwise.
Of course, Trump's lawyer may have just been bullshitting again.

The other thing I want to do a bit of research on, but haven't had time, is the connections between some of Trump's statements around the time of the meeting.
Something like two days before the meeting Trump announced a big reveal the following week about Clinton. I've read claims that he then didn't make any big announcement about her. I want to see if that's actually true.
Because if it is, it's at least circumstantial evidence that he was counting on some real dirt on her to come from the meeting .
Add that to the fact that it's nearly inconceivable they wouldn't tell him about the upcoming meeting it would certainly suggest his "I only learned about it last week" was just another of his many lies.
After all, Trump, et al., don't know the meaning of "plausible deniability" (they seem to operate on the "implausible deniability" method)

Trump's tweet right after the meeting took place.

https://pics.onsizzle.com/as-donald-j-trump-following-real-donald-trump-how-long-2784428.png

Trump's speech about his "major announcement" took place two days before that on June 7th, the day Jr set the final date of his meeting with a "Russian government attorney" with Manafort and Kushner in tow.

And no Trump never did make a speech with any new revelations.

 

[Aglaopheme]

Granted, yours is the precisely accurate quote. And substantively speaking, that changes things how exactly?

You don't see the difference between the two? I had typed a much longer response and noted more your laguaging the other night (when you outed me by the way) after my cable crashed. Turns out, my internet was down as well, and I lost it. I'm not interested in doing it again.

 

[Rightguide]

Part of me thinks Sessions should immediately resign therein clearing the way for the President to appoint an AG who will not recuse himself from overseeing the Russian investigation and will follow the President's wishes explicitly in micro-managing its shutdown thus finally paving the way for Trump making good on his apparent determined efforts to commit an all-out, unarguable obstruction of justice and force even the most loyal Republican members of Congress to vote for impeachment.

This is the most mind-boggling self-destructive political actor to ever take the public stage.

Sessions just stated he enjoys his job at Justice, has respect for the President, his Dept. will work to implement Trump's agenda, and plans on staying on to do just that.

 

[JohnnySavage]

Sessions just stated he enjoys his job at Justice, has respect for the President, his Dept. will work to implement Trump's agenda, and plans on staying on to do just that.

The Attorney General should not be working "to implement Trump's agenda."

No charge for the Civics lesson.

 

[Hypoxia]

I pinch the herbs, mutter a spell, and gaze into the crystal ball. What I see:

Tromp and those around him are owned by Russian mafiyas teamed with Putin. Tromp's tax records would reflect this, which is why he will NEVER release them. He'll start a foreign war first. Mueller's investigators will assiduously track Russian money into the Tromp Org. Expect the next Saturday Night Massacre when they get too close. Tromp will shitcan the entire DoJ if that's what it takes to stay opaque.

Alternate future: Many determined reporters continue to dig up juicy tales of sell-out and treason, tales that flow throughout established and social media, tales that will constantly enrage POTUS and escalate his blood pressure -- provoking a stroke. POTUS will slump aside, slack-faced, unable to move as history's finger brushes him away.

Another alternate: Tromp does it, nukes Pyongyang, and everything goes to shit. Yow.

Don't y'all hate those fucking crystal balls?

 

[4est_4est_Gump]

The Attorney General should not be working "to implement Trump's agenda."

No charge for the Civics lesson.

Since when?

We voted on a new, higher standard in 2016?

 

[Rightguide]

Since when?

We voted on a new, higher standard in 2016?

Obviously, Johnny doesn't believe in Trump's agenda to actually enforce the laws the Obama's agenda did not. Johnny loves an agenda that supports the idea of a corrupt and lawless DOJ.

 

[4est_4est_Gump]

I'm not putting words in anyone's mouth, but the first thing Holder did was to let the Black Panthers off the hook for voter intimidation...

 

[JohnnySavage]

To enforce the law and defend the interests of the United States according to the law; to ensure public safety against threats foreign and domestic; to provide federal leadership in preventing and controlling crime; to seek just punishment for those guilty of unlawful behavior; and to ensure fair and impartial administration of justice for all Americans.


Nary a word about supporting Trump's, or anybody else's agenda. I guess it's good to have a toady as AG when he supports your guy's "agenda"

 

[JohnnySavage]

Obviously, Johnny doesn't believe in Trump's agenda to actually enforce the laws the Obama's agenda did not. Johnny loves an agenda that supports the idea of a corrupt and lawless DOJ.

You got that right!

Trump's agenda is to enrich himself, his family and his friends. Even if that means selling out America to the highest bidder.

 

[Rightguide]

I'm not putting words in anyone's mouth, but the first thing Holder did was to let the Black Panthers off the hook for voter intimidation...

Damn right!

 

[Boxlicker101]

I'm not putting words in anyone's mouth, but the first thing Holder did was to let the Black Panthers off the hook for voter intimidation...

And it would have been an open and shut case, because they were videotaped doing it.

ETA: Of course, considering Eric Holder's past, what else can be expected: http://americanfreepress.net/eric-holders-radical-past-uncovered/

 

[Colonel Hogan]

I pinch the herbs, mutter a spell, and gaze into the crystal ball. What I see:

Tromp and those around him are owned by Russian mafiyas teamed with Putin. Tromp's tax records would reflect this, which is why he will NEVER release them. He'll start a foreign war first. Mueller's investigators will assiduously track Russian money into the Tromp Org. Expect the next Saturday Night Massacre when they get too close. Tromp will shitcan the entire DoJ if that's what it takes to stay opaque.

Alternate future: Many determined reporters continue to dig up juicy tales of sell-out and treason, tales that flow throughout established and social media, tales that will constantly enrage POTUS and escalate his blood pressure -- provoking a stroke. POTUS will slump aside, slack-faced, unable to move as history's finger brushes him away.

Another alternate: Tromp does it, nukes Pyongyang, and everything goes to shit. Yow.

Don't y'all hate those fucking crystal balls?

I certainly hope you are wrong, but I would not pretend for a moment that any of those scenarios are off the table.

 

[Rightguide]

Here's some real collusion at the last G-20:

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/DFP9A0CXYAAspDz.jpg

 

[Wrong Element]

Here's some real collusion at the last G-20:

Hey, Susan Rice was there. One other person who spoke English!

Trump's second date with Putin in Hamburg had no English-speaking witnesses. On purpose.

 

[Hypoxia]

Here's some real collusion at the last G-20:

Have you a tape or transcript or confessional email detailing their conspiratorial conclave? How do you know they weren't chanting dirty limericks?

 

[Boxlicker101]

Hey, Susan Rice was there. One other person who spoke English!

She was probably lying.

 

[water505]

She was probably lying.

Lying was a cornerstone of Obama's failed regime.

 

[Boxlicker101]

Lying was a cornerstone of Obama's failed regime.

It would have been of Hillary's also.

 

[Hypoxia]

It's a good thing Tromp only ever tells the truth.

Even if it changes every few minutes.

Reality is dynamic. Terriffic!