Con artist progeny "forgot" meeting with Russians

[dan_c00000]

Seriously, I no longer believe a thing the MSM says about Trump.

And you believe every word out of Trump's mouth? Or every word on propaganda site Breitbart? Or how about from that rapist O'Keffe, is he credible?

 

[ChloeTzang]

And you believe every word out of Trump's mouth? Or every word on propaganda site Breitbart? Or how about from that rapist O'Keffe, is he credible?

No, no and no in that order. CNN - no. ABC - no. Etc etc. However, I am more predisposed to believe what I read on Breitbart, Red State etc. That said, I'm far more interested in broad philosophy and policies than idiot talking points. I don't give a crap who met who. I'd like to see us going to the Moon and Mars. I'd like to see job in the US for Americans and I'd like to see the backs of thirty million illegals. I'd like to see all the pc bs eradicated and I don't give a flying fuck if some Twinkie gets their widdle feelings hurt. Etc. Etc (supply own idea of ongoing rant.... saves my fingers and your brain cells... don't say I'm not considerate)

 

[just4friends]

Just watched "LIFE"...
We should NOT go to Mars!

 

[ChloeTzang]

Just watched "LIFE"...
We should NOT go to Mars!

Pray tell. Got a link or something?

 

[Carnal_Flower]

The Breitbart sewer can't change the essential facts of this thread.

The entire Trump cabal has been proven to be liars by their OWN documents.

And they just keep lying. Uday got on Fox the other day to give a 100% transparent interview where he told rat-faced Hannity "that was everything. Ive told you everything." Only to be proven a bald-faced liar the very next day.

In their "transparency" they continue to LIE their asses off.

Nothing they say can be trusted. Not one word, especially about Russia, from anyone at all associated with Trump is the truth.

Oh and this:

http://media.channel4000.com/media.etgdemo.com/photo_qa/2017/07/14/Donald%20Trump%20Jr.%20Time%20cover%20July%2024%20issue%2C%20red%20handed%2C%20Russia%20email%20controversy_7471269_ver1.0_640_360.jpg

 

[phrodeau]

Corey Lewandowski, Trump's campaign manager at the time, claims that he and Trump were in Florida on June 9th, 2016. But they weren't; Trump was in New York the day his son, son-in-law and others met their Russian pals.

No wonder Lewandowski was fired, if he can't keep an accurate calendar.

 

[LincolnDuncan]

Sorry, the graphic didn't work. It's there now. I'm bipartisan on that one

Here’s the thing. I hate politicians. I’m beginning to hate political activists. I’m not a Democrat. I can’t argue with having the term liberal applied to me but I consider myself a radical moderate. I have some radical ideas but on balance, I’m left of center. To be the president of the United States one must have a huge ego. That includes Obama. There are a lot of things about Obama I don’t like but once again on balance, I think he was a good president with additional weight that no other president had to carry. He kept the US safe from the threat of radical Islamic terrorists. I hate that the drone strikes kill innocents but we are at war and the enemy hides behind innocents.

Bush, I don’t think that he is a bad person he was just in way over his head. The world economy was on the brink of collapse under his administration. He mistakenly thought that he could defeat Iraq and install a puppet regime, spread democracy and send a message of toughness to Radical Islam. That adventure turned out to not be as easy as Desert Storm.

Chaney is an evil profiteer.

I’m not a fan of Hilary Clinton. I think that she would have been an adequate president. The private server was arrogant but it’s been my understanding that what she did by having a private server was to violate a rule or policy that didn’t exist before she was Sec of State. Benghazi, I’m not even sure what she is accused of. It seems that some people believe that an embassy was attacked and Americans died because of Clinton’s negligence? I’m not sure. I don’t think that anyone believes that she deliberately acted to have these people killed. I can’t believe that any Sec of State would be negligent to the point of failing to assist fellow members of the Department of State. What I know is that there were at least 9 investigations by congress, she testified all day and never took the 5th. I have no information on the pay to play accusations. I suspect that Hilary is about as corrupt and unethical as any other member of the political class that has been a power player for thirty years.

Certainly, someone will attempt to correct my assumptions about Obama and Clinton. I don’t care. At some point, Trumpcult will have to defend the actions Crazy Pants Trump.

 

[JackLuis]

Here’s the thing. I hate politicians. -
Chaney is an evil profiteer.

I’m not a fan of Hilary Clinton. I think that she would have been an adequate president. The private server was arrogant but it’s been my understanding that what she did by having a private server was to violate a rule or policy that didn’t exist before she was Sec of State. Benghazi, I’m not even sure what she is accused of. It seems that some people believe that an embassy was attacked and Americans died because of Clinton’s negligence? I’m not sure. -

Certainly, someone will attempt to correct my assumptions about Obama and Clinton. I don’t care. At some point, Trumpcult will have to defend the actions Crazy Pants Trump.

I think Hillary was persecuted by Rethug's just because. Her real crime, in my eyes, was that she fostered a war on Libya in the interests of the French and Italians, who wanted access to oil at a discount. The reason for the attack on the ambassador was because the CIA was funneling Libyan arms to Syrian "Freedom Fighters," another of Hillary's wars for regime change.

It would make the world a better place if we issued guns to the war mongers and let them lead the invasions.

 

[sr71plt]

I think Hillary was persecuted by Rethug's just because. Her real crime, in my eyes, was that she fostered a war on Libya in the interests of the French and Italians, who wanted access to oil at a discount. The reason for the attack on the ambassador was because the CIA was funneling Libyan arms to Syrian "Freedom Fighters," another of Hillary's wars for regime change.

It would make the world a better place if we issued guns to the war mongers and let them lead the invasions.

The reactionaries were after Hillary ever since her health care bill attempts as First Lady during the Clinton Administration. They recognized then that she was going to be an ambitious politician in her own right and pursue more liberal causes than they would stomach. And she was/has been Swiftboated so hard since then that nearly all criticism of her has been the result of negative campaigning. Her paranoia, including the e-mail server business, has been earned naturally.

The only thing she did wrong with Benghazi was in some of her e-mail activity about it after the fact (especially sharing anything with her daughter). State has no guilt for Benghazi--certainly not when the Sec of State who is several steps above the administration of what's going on at embassies. The embassy wasn't attacked; it was an isolated consulate, with little protection (thanks to nonsupport for State budgets in the Congress). The consulate was attacked because of what the CIA was doing out of the consulate and not keeping the embassy informed. The ambassador was there to be killed in a largely unprotected facility because he hadn't been fully informed what was going on there and was checking it out. The Sec of State is a whole bunch of levels up from an ambassador's day-to-day decisions of where to be and why. Once the attack was on, not even God could have gotten rescue to them in time. U.S. installations abroad are attacked occasionally. Benghazi was noting special in that regard. There were 60 American staffers killed in such attacks during Bush the Lesser's administration. They weren't brought up to blame anyone for just because people didn't have their knives out for anyone like the reactionaries have had their knives out for Hillary Clinton for decades.

 

[LincolnDuncan]

I have no disagreement with either post.

 

[JackLuis]

The reactionaries were after Hillary ever since her health care bill attempts as First Lady during the Clinton Administration. -

The consulate was attacked because of what the CIA was doing out of the consulate and not keeping the embassy informed. The ambassador was there to be killed in a largely unprotected facility because he hadn't been fully informed what was going on there and was checking it out. The Sec of State is a whole bunch of levels up from an ambassador's day-to-day decisions of where to be and why. Once the attack was on, not even God could have gotten rescue to them in time. U.S. installations abroad are attacked occasionally. -.

The Ambassador wasn't informed about the CIA's actions in Libya, that doesn't sound too good in this instance. Considering the importance of our mission in Libya and th level of Ambassador chosen it seems he should be aware of the "Arms Removal" activities of the Company.

"Another fine mess you've gotten us into , Ollie!"

 

[sr71plt]

The Ambassador wasn't informed about the CIA's actions in Libya, that doesn't sound too good in this instance. Considering the importance of our mission in Libya and th level of Ambassador chosen it seems he should be aware of the "Arms Removal" activities of the Company.

"Another fine mess you've gotten us into , Ollie!"

No, sometimes State isn't told everything--because it's a communications sieve (which goes back to Clinton's need for a more secure system--which she asked NSA for and didn't get). What this means in this case, is the blame went up the wrong chain--and it only went up there at all because the right has been after Clinton for decades. The Swiftboaters weren't after the intel community.

 

[JackLuis]

No, sometimes State isn't told everything--because it's a communications sieve (which goes back to Clinton's need for a more secure system--which she asked NSA for and didn't get). What this means in this case, is the blame went up the wrong chain--and it only went up there at all because the right has been after Clinton for decades. The Swiftboaters weren't after the intel community.

Yes, they were after the war monger because she was their enemy. They couldn't admit that they were suckered in to agreeing to her plans by their own shortsightedness. So thousands of Africans are dead and thousands of Syrians are dead and Hillary is forced to shut the fuck up?

Sounds good to me.

 

[JackLuis]

Trump Jr.’s Russia meeting sure sounds like a Russian intelligence operation

WaPo had an article about what the meeting was about. To engage the Trumpanzies in collusion!

Donald Trump Jr. is seeking to write off as a nonevent his meeting last year with a Russian lawyer who was said to have damaging information about Hillary Clinton. “It was such a nothing,” he told Fox News’s Sean Hannity on Tuesday. “There was nothing to tell.”

But everything we know about the meeting — from whom it involved to how it was set up to how it unfolded — is in line with what intelligence analysts would expect an overture in a Russian influence operation to look like. It bears all the hallmarks of a professionally planned, carefully orchestrated intelligence soft pitch designed to gauge receptivity, while leaving room for plausible deniability in case the approach is rejected. And the Trump campaign’s willingness to take the meeting — and, more important, its failure to report the episode to U.S. authorities — may have been exactly the green light Russia was looking for to launch a more aggressive phase of intervention in the U.S. election.

By Rolf Mowatt-Larssen July 14 at 1:48 PM
Rolf Mowatt-Larssen is the director of the Intelligence and Defense Project at Harvard’s Belfer Center. He served for three years as director of intelligence and counterintelligence at the Department of Energy and for 23 years as a CIA intelligence officer in domestic and international posts.

 

[sr71plt]

Well, yes, it was a classic recruitment approach. And it obviously is part of an effort that has worked. Trump's whole approach to Russia is an obvious reflection that they have him by the balls in blackmail--probably either on a history of financial dealings and/or video of his time spent with hookers. This is all quite clear to anyone who has worked in intel and is a basic reason--beyond his expressed denigration of the intel community--that the intel community is busy pinning him to the wall.

 

[Hypoxia]

... the intel community is busy pinning him to the wall.

In the old days, wasn't this called "a nice clean hit" ??

 

[sr71plt]

In the old days, wasn't this called "a nice clean hit" ??

Where I came from, we called it "the dangle."