Con artist whines to British PM: no one likes me

[magicalmoments]

Who almost nobody likes? Except for the many millions who voted for him. And yeah, being POTUS isn't a job where the popularity contest takes precedence. Running the US like a company instead of the standard government waste machine makes sence, but people don't like change.

And yeah, some other world leaders don't like him. Why would they? He is trying to look out for the best interests of his country, not be involved in some scheme that makes others wealthy at our expense. They don't like him because he stopped their revenue stream (Paris Accord, etc).

My observation is that more people voted for Clinton than voted for Trump. It was simply the vagaries of the electoral college votes system that gave him the presidency.

Can you explain how Trump taking the USA out of the Paris accord stopped a revenue stream to European leaders?

 

[phrodeau]

My observation is that more people voted for Clinton than voted for Trump. It was simply the vagaries of the electoral college votes system that gave him the presidency.

Can you explain how Trump taking the USA out of the Paris accord stopped a revenue stream to European leaders?

It's a common misconception. There's a Heritage Foundation report that says the Paris Accord would reduce the US GDP by three trillion dollars. Somehow, people think that money would go straight to Paris.

 

[LincolnDuncan]

Odd how Obama never made a single apology on that tour.

Point taken

 

[magicalmoments]

It's a common misconception. There's a Heritage Foundation report that says the Paris Accord would reduce the US GDP by three trillion dollars. Somehow, people think that money would go straight to Paris.

Yes, I get the feeling that trumptards are full of common misconceptions.

Shame that the misconception didn't occur 9 months before they were born!

 

[ChloeTzang]

My observation is that more people voted for Clinton than voted for Trump. It was simply the vagaries of the electoral college votes system that gave him the presidency.

It's not vagaries. It was deliberately designed that way to ensue states with large populations couldn't dominate the electoral system unduly. What we do have now is an issue with large cities dominating the state they're in. New York for example, where the city is Democrat but the rest votes republican. When the constitution was framed, they did a pretty good job overall tho.

 

[Carnal_Flower]

Nope.

https://www.washingtonpost.com/opin...45c526-1f85-11e2-afca-58c2f5789c5d_story.html

That falls under myth #1.

The EC was an invention of slave-holding states,who at the time had relatively equal population, but NOT equal eligible voters, cuz of the darkies. Instead of direct voting, which they would always lose but not because of city vs. rural, they based it on population, counting a NEGRO as 3/5 of a man.

The tradition continues to this day, where the EC favors states filled with Dumb Fucks, whose brains are about 1/4 normal intelligence.

It's not vagaries. It was deliberately designed that way to ensue states with large populations couldn't dominate the electoral system unduly. What we do have now is an issue with large cities dominating the state they're in. New York for example, where the city is Democrat but the rest votes republican. When the constitution was framed, they did a pretty good job overall tho.

 

[DeYaKen]

Why is he surprised.

Narcissism. The overriding mental condition where everything revolves around the person.

Such is the case which exists for the con artist where he is more concerned with how people perceive him than he is about doing anything worthwhile. This debilitating condition has taken hold such that he has whined to British Prime Minister Theresa May, if she doesn't fix things, he won't visit the UK. His exact words:

‘When I know I’m going to get a better reception, I’ll come and not before.’​

This stems from the many British subjects, exercising what we would consider their first Amendment right to free speech, who have signed a petition (two million and counting) to keep the con artist from polluting the United Kingdom should he deign to visit.

As can be guessed, the British press can't find words and snarky comments fast enough. One likened it to “asking turkeys to get more into the Christmas spirit” while another said it was like asking “zombies to sort out the welcoming party for Dracula at a garlic convention.”

http://www.marketwatch.com/story/donald-trump-tells-theresa-may-hes-not-visiting-until-he-feels-more-welcome-2017-07-16

Well if he is looking for someone to make him more popular in the UK he is asking the wrong person. He should be talking to the man in the mirror.

So far his record is of someone who insults the first minister of Scotland, bullies Scots into selling land for his golf resort, tries to dictate what can and cannot be placed in the North Sea, picks a fight with the Mayor of London because he is a Muslim, claims that the right way to handle women is to "grab them by the pussy" and is quite happy for the world to drown, because the only Americans it would affect are the ones who didn't vote for him.

Theresa May offered him a state visit (which would not have included the Golden Coach) because she was anxious to show that she could make Brexit work. She was trying to show that she was friends with the school bully. She is now having to bribe terrorist sympathisers in order to hang on to her own position. There is very little she can do to improve his.

Personally, I'm quite happy for him to stay away. A state visit costs a huge amount of money in providing security and all the showing off. Our government keeps telling us we have no money so I'd rather it be taken from state visits and put into our public services.

 

[handysr]

It's a common misconception. There's a Heritage Foundation report that says the Paris Accord would reduce the US GDP by three trillion dollars. Somehow, people think that money would go straight to Paris.

Anyone who has read about the costs of the agreement, and the levels of cut emissions that must be reached knows damn well that ain't the truth.

Off the top of my head I can't remember the exact number, but it's in the billions, per year, for stupid shit like paying for India and China to build *more* coal power plants. That's not the only problem, but that enough should have been enough to tear up the papers. Screw that! What sense does that make? But yet the US is supposed to close manufacturing plants and power plants, then pay other places to build them, and to pay their workers to make solar panels and windmills for the US to buy at a high cost.

What the fuck was that obama idiot thinking?!?

 

[someoneyouknow]

Anyone who has read about the costs of the agreement, and the levels of cut emissions that must be reached knows damn well that ain't the truth.

Off the top of my head I can't remember the exact number, but it's in the billions, per year, for stupid shit like paying for India and China to build *more* coal power plants. That's not the only problem, but that enough should have been enough to tear up the papers. Screw that! What sense does that make? But yet the US is supposed to close manufacturing plants and power plants, then pay other places to build them, and to pay their workers to make solar panels and windmills for the US to buy at a high cost.

What the fuck was that obama idiot thinking?!?

Except neither country is doing either of those two things. China is specifically cutting back on coal-fired plants and India announced they're installing solar panels on top of trains to reduce the amount of fuel they need, among other items the country is doing to reduce its fossil fuel usage. Not to mention India is also reducing its coal plants as well.

http://www.factcheck.org/2017/06/trump-china-india-coal/

https://www.nytimes.com/2017/06/02/world/asia/india-coal-green-energy-climate.html

Further, both Europe and the U.S. are accelerating their deployment of renewable energy sources. In the U.S. alone solar energy employs more people than oil, gas and coal, combined. Kansas produces so much electricity from wind power it is well ahead of its goal to use that source which now makes up 25% of its electricity generation.

The only ones who are pushing for coal are places like Wyoming where instead of creating jobs through wind and solar, Republicans have explicitly said Wyoming can only get its electricity from coal. In fact, they put a tax on wind, the only state to do so, and almost raised the tax even higher to try and balance their budget (so much for Republicans being fiscally responsible).

http://www.latimes.com/nation/la-na-sej-wyoming-wind-tax-snap-story.html

http://www.latimes.com/nation/la-na-wyoming-wind-tax-20160926-snap-story.html

The only electricity from wind and solar produced in Wyoming gets sent out of state.

 

[DeYaKen]

Anyone who has read about the costs of the agreement, and the levels of cut emissions that must be reached knows damn well that ain't the truth.

Off the top of my head I can't remember the exact number, but it's in the billions, per year, for stupid shit like paying for India and China to build *more* coal power plants. That's not the only problem, but that enough should have been enough to tear up the papers. Screw that! What sense does that make? But yet the US is supposed to close manufacturing plants and power plants, then pay other places to build them, and to pay their workers to make solar panels and windmills for the US to buy at a high cost.

What the fuck was that obama idiot thinking?!?

Well, Trump certainly did a number on you didn't he. He seems to have convinced you that Carbon credits are the same as money.

The Paris agreement allowed developing countries more carbon credits, on the grounds that they need to continue with coal longer in order to catch up. China has a huge problem with pollution as anyone watching the Bejing Olympics couldn't fail to notice. They are moving away from coal at a much faster rate than their original plan, partly in order to combat that pollution. This has meant that China has unused Carbon credits. In order to encourage just such a move Carbon credits were made transferable. If you didn't need all your carbon credits you could sell them to the highest bidder.

The US didn't have to buy them, They could have stuck to their agreed emissions target and not needed them. For political reasons, they chose to keep on polluting and so bought carbon credits.

The renewable energy industry in the US generates more cash than the coal industry and they are a net exporter of wind power technology. Most of the UK's wind generators come from within the EU but we still have a fair number of Boeing generators in service. I don't have the figures for solar panels in the US but I do know that we manufacture most of our own. If Britain can do it I'm sure the US does. You have a much bigger home market. Add to that the fact that you are ahead in the technology race. It all makes it highly unlikely that you are importing all of your solar panels.

The Lie that your man has managed to sell you is that poor old America is propping up the world. Some of our politicians do the same thing Nigel Farage is a prime example. Instead of taking us forward they want to take us back to a time when they say things were better. What they trade on is nostalgia and short memories. In the old days, our expectations were lower so things just seemed to be better.

 

[magicalmoments]

It's not vagaries. It was deliberately designed that way to ensue states with large populations couldn't dominate the electoral system unduly. What we do have now is an issue with large cities dominating the state they're in. New York for example, where the city is Democrat but the rest votes republican. When the constitution was framed, they did a pretty good job overall tho.

Personally I've always favoured the one person one vote system, the winner being the candidate who gets a majority on the day.

 

[magicalmoments]

Anyone who has read about the costs of the agreement, and the levels of cut emissions that must be reached knows damn well that ain't the truth.

Off the top of my head I can't remember the exact number, but it's in the billions, per year, for stupid shit like paying for India and China to build *more* coal power plants. That's not the only problem, but that enough should have been enough to tear up the papers. Screw that! What sense does that make? But yet the US is supposed to close manufacturing plants and power plants, then pay other places to build them, and to pay their workers to make solar panels and windmills for the US to buy at a high cost.

What the fuck was that obama idiot thinking?!?

Your understanding is just plain wrong. You've been duped.

Obama like all of the world leaders who signed the accord were thinking about the future of their own country, their grandchildren. Hell, even Kim jong Sonny boy signed North Korea up to it. Think about that, North Korea being more responsible than the USA. Sign of the future perhaps?