Confederate flag

what is your first reaction upon seeing a confederate flag?

  • I tend to think that person displaying it may have racist tendencies

    Votes: 38 40.4%
  • I\'m neutral. I don\'t think it says anything about that person.

    Votes: 7 7.4%
  • Theres nothing racist about that person. They have pride in the south, thats it.

    Votes: 33 35.1%
  • other

    Votes: 16 17.0%

  • Total voters
    94
Hamletmaschine said:
If it were Lindsay Wagner, I might.

Then "all' you need to do, is hang out at Palisades rec center. Her son plays hoops in leagues. She sits and watches. Colour that my tip for the day.
 
brokenbrainwave said:
so what your are saying is that Al Sharpton, Hillary Clinton, Jesse Helms, Robert Byrd, Howard Cossel (sp?) and yes I know he is dead but still, in addition to the aforementioned people this thread is asking about should be flagged? I can agree with that.

I'm not advocating flagging anybody, I advocate the right to flag yourself anyway you want.

Why do you assume I'm in love with your list of Liberal politicians, and how did Howard Cossell end up in it? You trying to flag me?

For the record, I admire ol' Howard, he had more balls than most.

Try again.
 
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Weevil said:


Again, I know it's hard to think deep over the squeals, but where did PH say anything resembling that? He said the dumb ones are, not anybody should be.

Jeez, even when right wingers try to be off the cuff funny they mess it up. Christ you people are useless.
For starters, I am not a right winger so please do not attempt to paint me into any corner. For seconds, I choose to include those aforementioned people in the context of hate mongers based upon their record, not any off the cuff coment. For thirds personal attacks are useless in a faceless and nameless place such as the internet. The fact someone does not agree with a post or comment is fine, but to react in an attack mode making wild accusations with no basis or cause?

With all that said I can see where you got your ideas from my post. I am merely attempting to clarify your misunderstanding.
 
Purple Haze said:
I'm not advocating flagging anybody, I advocate the right to flag yourself anyway you want.

Why do you assume I'm in love with your list of Liberal politicians, and how did Howard Cossell end up in it? You trying to flag me?

For the record, I admire ol' Howard, he had more balls than most.

Try again.
I assure you I assumed nothing as to your love, and for the record, Byrd is not that liberal nor is Helms by any stretch of the imagination. I was merely agreeing with you in a round about way.

You are correct, Howard did call 'em like he saw 'em :p
 
brokenbrainwave said:
For starters, I am not a right winger so please do not attempt to paint me into any corner. For seconds, I choose to include those aforementioned people in the context of hate mongers based upon their record, not any off the cuff coment. For thirds personal attacks are useless in a faceless and nameless place such as the internet. The fact someone does not agree with a post or comment is fine, but to react in an attack mode making wild accusations with no basis or cause?

With all that said I can see where you got your ideas from my post. I am merely attempting to clarify your misunderstanding.


Sorry, homes. But you're off target here. You misread what PH said in an extreme manner and replied really, really stupidly.

I have no patience for stupidity. Sorry for getting testy.
 
Weevil said:



Sorry, homes. But you're off target here. You misread what PH said in an extreme manner and replied really, really stupidly.

I have no patience for stupidity. Sorry for getting testy.
:rolleyes:
 
brokenbrainwave, you've got some splainin' ta do.

Let's play Sesame Street with your list of people.

Two of these people are just like another,
One of these people doesn't belong,
All of these people should be flagged for stupidity,
One of these posters isn't making a clue,

What gives, man?
 
Purple Haze said:
brokenbrainwave, you've got some splainin' ta do.

Let's play Sesame Street with your list of people.

Two of these people are just like another,
One of these people doesn't belong,
All of these people should be flagged for stupidity,
One of these posters isn't making a clue,

What gives, man?


Ok, I didn't think anything in this thread was going to make me laugh.

I was wrong.
 
nothing gives at all. I merely choose to lump these people in as hate mongers due to their comments and actions. In a nutshell that was it, plain and simple. Now did I use your post to do such yes, call it a segue if you will.
However I will not be called upon the carpet so to speak for that. If I had posted something offensive or racist then anyone would have a right to question me. Offering an opinion does not give anyone that right. If my list of so called leaders of the free world that have shown tendencies to hold racialy unacceptable viewpoints offends in any way, then so be it, we will just have to agree to disagree there. Case closed, court called, moving along now.
Either way, the debate has charted off its original course, and we all must share the blame in that.
 
brokenbrainwave said:

However I will not be called upon the carpet so to speak for that. If I had posted something offensive or racist then anyone would have a right to question me.

But, but, stupid off-topic things do offend me.
 
Beyond the racist aspect, the Confederate flag has semi-treasonous elements to it. It represents a nation that started a war to separate itself from the United States of America. How anyone could consider themselves a proud American yet proudly display a flag that is basically anti-USA is odd to me.
 
Laurel said:
Beyond the racist aspect, the Confederate flag has semi-treasonous elements to it. It represents a nation that started a war to separate itself from the United States of America. How anyone could consider themselves a proud American yet proudly display a flag that is basically anti-USA is odd to me.

Goes hand in hand with the fact that the USA is "one nation under God" and there are people who care for kittens when, thanks to Sillyman, we all know that they are "adorable little minions of Satan." You're odd, Laurel.
 
Whenever the 'hyphenated American' argument comes up, a group of people here will say that people should be Americans first and then whatever their culture/race/shoe size is second. But many of these same people who object to "African-American" or "Italian-American" labels will fly the Confederate flag - not the stars & stripes. They put "Southern heritage" above their pride in their country, in the same way as those hyphenated Americans they complain about. And the flag they fly is not just a "pride in the South" symbol - it's a reminder of a time when rather than work out differences with the Federal government, a group of states threatened to detach themselves from the United States.
 
Laurel said:
Whenever the 'hyphenated American' argument comes up, a group of people here will say that people should be Americans first and then whatever their culture/race/shoe size is second. But many of these same people who object to "African-American" or "Italian-American" labels will fly the Confederate flag - not the stars & stripes. They put "Southern heritage" above their pride in their country, in the same way as those hyphenated Americans they complain about.

Laurel is smart yup :)
 
Secession

The constitution doesn't actualy say anything about a state leaving the union.

I found the following post at: United States Constitution Online

"The Supreme Court, in White v Texas, affirmed this when it ruled that Texas never wasn't a state, once it became one, even in the time of the Confederate States of American and the Civil War. It did indicate that a state can secede, but that secession cannot be a unilateral decision. To leave the union, a state must have the permission of the other states. The Supreme Court did not provide an exact method for this "approved secession," however, which leaves the details open for debate. (posted by Steve Mount.)"
 
Flag on the play!

The local grand dragon(I refuse to capitalize the title out of a lack of respect for his beliefs) proudly flies the confederate flag on the back of his pickup. He, and all the other racist groups that proudly display it, make it a symbol for racism. When I see a black truckdriver with this oversized snot-rag emblazoned on the grill of his Peterbuilt I may regard it as something as other than racist.

It does make it easier to get along though. When I see it I know that person probably has a sub 90 IQ and isn't worth one minute of my time.

I think I need to get one of those peeing Calvins that are so popular...and have him pissing on the stars and bars.

Nothing more fun than yanking a redneck's chain.
 
Just out of curiosity...

... How many folks here know the difference between the "Stars and Bars" and the "Confederate Battle Flag"?
 
Marxist said:


I really want to meet these Black bikers wearing the Confederate flag.

1--I doubt they exist.

2--If they do exist, I dare them to come to come to Atlanta and ride down MLK Blvd.

3--What's your rationalization for all the "SS" and German WW2 gear? Any brothas wearing that shit?

I haven't read past this point yet, but I have to ditto this. I've never seen a black brother wearing a confederate flag, and i doubt I ever will. I'm not from Missouri, but i do want you to show me.
 
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