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1) Undocumented people entering the US are the problem and must be deported ASAP. Round up these illegals any and every way possible.

2) Stop spending more than we earn. This is a good one! We must cut more social services! Raising taxes on the poor is the way to go as they are the bulk of our population. by giving those with money a tax break, they will spend it on goods and services (the economy will benefit) or they save/invest the money, which is also another win for the economy

3) Take care of "our people first" and those who want a better life. 86 career welfare. Make it illegal for Walmart workers to collect welfare

4) there is no tyranny or corruption in the Trump administration. ya'll are a bunch of babies.

5). make sure that woke never comes back. end this trans madness as people are a man or a woman, the rest are mentally retarded
 
SebastianHolt said:
1) Undocumented people entering the US are the problem and must be deported ASAP. Round up these illegals any and every way possible.
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There is no way at all the country would be better off without them. Immigration is a NON-PROBLEM.
 
SebastianHolt said:
1) Undocumented people entering the US are the problem and must be deported ASAP. Round up these illegals any and every way possible.

2) Stop spending more than we earn. This is a good one! We must cut more social services! Raising taxes on the poor is the way to go as they are the bulk of our population. by giving those with money a tax break, they will spend it on goods and services (the economy will benefit) or they save/invest the money, which is also another win for the economy

3) Take care of "our people first" and those who want a better life. 86 career welfare. Make it illegal for Walmart workers to collect welfare

4) there is no tyranny or corruption in the Trump administration. ya'll are a bunch of babies.

5). make sure that woke never comes back. end this trans madness as people are a man or a woman, the rest are mentally retarded
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Are you high?
 
Wilson23 said:
There is no way at all the country would be better off without them. Immigration is a NON-PROBLEM.
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The illegals from central/south america are at the bottom. they lower the costs for wages and that huts legal citizens.

Do you not believe in laws?

woke is a mental illness
 
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SebastianHolt said:
The illegals from central/south america are at the bottom. they lower the costs for wages and that huts legal citizens.
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https://rationalwiki.org/wiki/Myths...jobs_and_opportunities_away_from_Americans.22

"Immigrants take jobs and opportunities away from Americans"​

This point, while right in the main, a bit disingenuously implies that Indians and Chinese people are actually immigrating still to the US. Rather, they are coming on H1-B visas, which prohibit them from entrepreneurship and which effectively prohibit them from being risk takers in their jobs (e.g. hiring more workers as a manager) for fear of their own job loss and deportation since they can only work for their sponsoring employer.

  • The largest wave of immigration to the U.S. since the early 1900s coincided with the lowest national unemployment rate and fastest economic growth; however, there was no welfare state at that time and only minimal regulation of the economy. Immigrant entrepreneurs create jobs for U.S. and foreign workers, and foreign-born students fill seats in graduate programs in U.S. universities.[16]
    • In Silicon Valley by 2003, companies founded by Chinese and Indian immigrants generated more than $19.5 billion in sales and nearly 73,000 jobs.[17]
    • By 2012, nearly 15 percent of start-ups were founded by entrepreneurs native to India.[18]
  • Illegal immigrants, as well as legal immigrants with little job skills or language skills, often take the work seen by most Americans as "beneath them". Janitorial services, crop pickers, and garbage collectors need workers, and they do not find them from high-school-educated, English-speaking citizens. As a demonstration of this fact, in Georgia, a 2011 crackdown on illegal immigrants caused many to be deported and more to flee the state. This caused a shortage of labor on the state's farms, indicating that illegal immigrants in that state do not compete very much with Americans for jobs.[19]
  • The types of jobs that decrease or increase for citizens depends on the skillset required. Although construction and hospitality jobs declined (2 and 1 percent respectively), manufacturing jobs increased by 3 percent for US citizens, as manufacturing does not rely as heavily on undocumented labor. Additionally, jobs relying on communication skills (requiring proficiency in English) increase in places with more immigrants.[20]
  • Harvard economics professor George Borjas has published multiple studies arguing that high levels of immigration reduce low-skill job opportunities for citizens. In one 2017 study, he claimed that the 1980 influx of Cuban migrants lowered wages of citizens who lacked high school diplomas by as much as 30 percent. However, scruntiny of the Borjas research found severe problems with the demographic sampling Borjas used, for instance excluding women and high school graduates and oversampling black workers.[21]

"Immigrants are a drain on the U.S. economy"​

  • A nation's immigration policy is explicitly designed to benefit the nation, and one way it does that is to decline anyone that is reasonably likely to be a drain on the economy from immigrating. By contrast, we can't kick a US citizen out of the US because they are expected to be a drain on the economy. The net result is that on average a legal immigrant should be expected to be less of a drain on the economy than the average US citizen by virtue of the immigration process ensuring only the most talented or those likely to be able to care for themselves are let in.
  • Immigrants actually wield considerable economic power. In 2014, there were 8.7 million foreign-born homeowners, and immigrants contributed $32.9 billion into the Medicare trust versus the -$68.7 billion deficit generated by natural-born Americans.[22]
  • In 1995, naturalized citizens living in New York had a higher per capita income (est. $24,000) and average taxes paid (est. $8,500) than native-born U.S. citizens in the state (est. $18,000 and $6,500 respectively).[3]
  • Immigrants fill jobs in key sectors and create jobs by establishing their own businesses, with an estimated annual benefit of $10 billion to the U.S. economy. According to Alan Greenspan, 70% of immigrants arrive when they are of prime working age.[23]
  • Due to welfare reform, illegal immigrants are severely restricted from accessing public benefits, and illegal immigrants are even further precluded from anything other than emergency services. Anti-immigrant groups skew these figures by including programs used by U.S. citizen children of immigrants in their definition of immigrant welfare use, among other tactics.
  • Immigrants actually create jobs. See above on the companies started by Chinese and Indian immigrants. Think of it: How many Taco places (besides things you should refuse to call "Taco"https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/5/5a/Wikipedia%27s_W.svg/20px-Wikipedia%27s_W.svg.png) would there be without Mexican immigration? How many jobs do they create? And that's just one of the more glaringly obvious examples. If immigrants as a group have one thing Americans tend to lack, it's entrepreneurial spirit.
 
Wilson23 said:
There was never in history a tolerably functioning economy in absence of government. Take it away and you don't get Libertopia, you get Somalia.
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Again wrong, look at the American West back in the horse and buggy days. wasn't much of a government back then
 
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