Cuba.

[marshalt]

Who gives a fuck about Cuba?

 

[Ishmael]

China is everywhere that oil exists, including Cuba. They were in Africa while we were still arguing about their dictators. Also, China just put a rover on the moon, you dont think the Chinese can figure out how to get oil out of the ocean?

Of course they can, if they want to invest huge amounts of their national treasure. And I'm also aware of the agreements between the Chinese and the Cuban's. But having an agreement and developing a field are two very different things. So yes, they can do it, but the investment will be huge and the logistical problems enormous.

Once again though, my point is and was that nothing is going to change in the near term. Even in regards to the tourist trade huge capital investments have to be made and the question remains, by who? Investors are going to want to see a return on their investment and be assured that the government isn't going to 'nationalize' the properties the first time there's an economic hiccup. (Which seems to be a growing trend in the Latin nations.) The Cuban government doesn't have the money to make the needed investments and their credit is for shit because nobody trusts them.

Ishmael

 

[Que]

Cuba is like our Taiwan.

Interesting comparison with the inverse situation economically but definitely with the power differential and the imposing neighbor, which in this case is us.

 

[Beco]

Cuba is like our Taiwan.

They both eat rice, thats about it....

 

[Beco]

Of course they can, if they want to invest huge amounts of their national treasure. And I'm also aware of the agreements between the Chinese and the Cuban's. But having an agreement and developing a field are two very different things. So yes, they can do it, but the investment will be huge and the logistical problems enormous.

Once again though, my point is and was that nothing is going to change in the near term. Even in regards to the tourist trade huge capital investments have to be made and the question remains, by who? Investors are going to want to see a return on their investment and be assured that the government isn't going to 'nationalize' the properties the first time there's an economic hiccup. (Which seems to be a growing trend in the Latin nations.) The Cuban government doesn't have the money to make the needed investments and their credit is for shit because nobody trusts them.

Ishmael

Either way, nothing is going to happen until they approve the deal....so its hurry up and wait while Rubio grandstands....

 

[thør]

http://www.topgear.com/uk/imageresize/image.jpg?OriginalImageUrl=%2fuk%2fassets%2fcms%2f71f5eee3-aba5-42d8-bd16-352ff93fe415%2fLarge+Image.jpg%3fp%3d141219_12%3a21&Width=600&Height=339

 

[Beco]

http://www.netssa.com/Jibacoa/Villa_Tropico_beach_cuba.jpg

 

[Ishmael]

There are beaches everywhere.

http://thecostaricanews.com/wp-content/uploads/2013/10/0-costarincan-beaches.jpg

I'll take Costa Rica over Cuba any day without regard to politics.

Ishmael

 

[Beco]

There are beaches everywhere.

http://thecstaricanews.com/wp-content/uploads/2013/10/0-costarincan-beaches.jpg

I'll take Costa Rica over Cuba any day without regard to politics.

Ishmael

Well yeah, I agree with you there....

 

[Sean Renaud]

There are beaches everywhere.

http://thecostaricanews.com/wp-content/uploads/2013/10/0-costarincan-beaches.jpg

I'll take Costa Rica over Cuba any day without regard to politics.

Ishmael

I don't think anybody disagrees with that in the least. There are lovely beaches in the US as well.