Damn, Damnit, Damnitall!!

[Lisa Denton]

What didn't you like about Vista? Some independent reviews I've read recently say it's pretty good

Yes, they are independant reviews, and the reviewers are not on the mocrosoft payroll, however, they do recieve massive amounts of cars, vacation trips, and even houses from microsoft for other non-specified, not on the payroll type things.

The only independant review I read about was a group of businesses that had no preference, they hired a group of reviewers whom they paid and specified that they were not to receive any monies from microsoft for any reason. The final review said that at each company the same programs and tasks could be done on XP faster than on Vista.

Would you think it strange that major business news organizations were paid not to print that by microsoft? Think again.

Vista may one day be a good OS, microsoft intends that whether good or not Vista will be the major OS sold by shoving it down the peoples throats.

Recently the microsoft updates page had announced that all XP and XP pro users would soon be unable to get updates and support, when this was pointed out to microsoft they quickly took action to fix this typo. Within a mere 3 weeks they were able to take this "oops" erroneous info off the main updates page.

Do you think it was an error? A typo? Or microsoft try to shove something down the publics throats?

If Vista was a better OS than XP why the errors, typos, and shoves?

Vista's list of problems is long and growing longer, what many people are getting pissed off about is the way microsoft is screaming that XP suddenly sucks, and screaming it loud.

I tried the OS and made suggestions to microsoft before Vista made its debut, they should have listened. I would be running Vista right now if I had the option to only install what I wanted. They chose not to give the consumer that option.

Its a bad choice for a business not to give the consumer choices, but then microsoft does not really consider itself a business, more like a "godlike power."

 

[Stella_Omega]

I have it, don't use it since the last updates screwed everything up. People are talking about it everwhere, favs/bookmarks dissappear etc.

They took a good thing, which wasn't broke, fixed it and made it broke.

I liked it and even bought a couple t-shirts from em a couple years ago.

I use Avant 11.0 build 45 and don't let it update. Perfect for what I want.

I see that Avant is now up to 11.5...

It might not be perfect for what you want, if you can't interface with ebay the way you want, just sayin'

firefox was nasty for a build there, but the bugfixes are mostly in. I have it on all of our PC's.

 

[fifty5]

Maybe you didn't understand, it never did work.

No, my fault for not making myself clear. What I was suggesting was that maybe eBay doesn't work (at all?) because M$ deliberately creates a situation where it can be almost impossible to create a site that does do clever things,l works with IE, and also follows standards. Most banks seem to cop out and say that their on-line systems only work with IE (sometimes that's wrong, but they still say it, others refuse to serve pages unless the browser is IE, so it's hard to tell).

I wasn't saying that the browser isn't capable of handling the site, but that M$'s standards-busting approach makes it harder to write a site that works across different browsers - unless the designer refuses to do some of the clever stuff that can be done.

eBay ought to be able to afford the clever programmers that can solve this problem, but it isn't eBay's fault this problem exists.

On the other hand, of course, it could just be crap coding...

Whatever, I'm still on your side!

 

[jomar]

Yes, they are independant reviews, and the reviewers are not on the mocrosoft payroll, however, they do recieve massive amounts of cars, vacation trips, and even houses from microsoft for other non-specified, not on the payroll type things.

Where do I sign up?

The only independant review I read about was a group of businesses that had no preference, they hired a group of reviewers whom they paid and specified that they were not to receive any monies from microsoft for any reason. The final review said that at each company the same programs and tasks could be done on XP faster than on Vista.

I'll keep searching for review.

Would you think it strange that major business news organizations were paid not to print that by microsoft? Think again.

No.

Vista may one day be a good OS, microsoft intends that whether good or not Vista will be the major OS sold by shoving it down the peoples throats.

Recently the microsoft updates page had announced that all XP and XP pro users would soon be unable to get updates and support, when this was pointed out to microsoft they quickly took action to fix this typo. Within a mere 3 weeks they were able to take this "oops" erroneous info off the main updates page.

Do you think it was an error? A typo? Or microsoft try to shove something down the publics throats?

If Vista was a better OS than XP why the errors, typos, and shoves?

I didn't know MS retracted the nonsupport statement. All software companies force new versions on us, as you know. It's aggravating, but the way business is.

Vista's list of problems is long and growing longer, what many people are getting pissed off about is the way microsoft is screaming that XP suddenly sucks, and screaming it loud.

I must not be paying attention since I haven't noticed MS making those claims. Just about how Vista will do things better and give you that warm fuzzy feeling like the Apple OS does.

I tried the OS and made suggestions to microsoft before Vista made its debut, they should have listened. I would be running Vista right now if I had the option to only install what I wanted. They chose not to give the consumer that option.

Its a bad choice for a business not to give the consumer choices, but then microsoft does not really consider itself a business, more like a "godlike power."

I assume you left out the word 'not.' But you can still order computers with XP - Lenovo and Dell for two examples. I'll do some more searches on problems with Vista. I'm using XP pro at present. And you're right about the microsoft - I have to attend services daily.

Thanks Lisa.