Debate Topic -- Original Sin

[SINthysist]

Grandma for being too proud to move into the retirement community...

 

[lovetoread]

Who was at fault, Grandma, Little Red, the Woodsman, or the wolf?

Red's mother.

Who would send a child out that far to feed a person who should not have been alone in the first place?

Child abuse.

 

[Dixon Carter Lee]

I still say God screwed up by putting the damn trees there in the first place. I mean he couldn't have rested for only half a day on Sunday and then built a fence?

 

[JazzManJim]

Re: Duh !

I would have to say Adam.

I mean sure Eve had her down fall with the snake and she bit into the apple.

But , come on , Adam was such a wimp ass ... when Eve offered him the apple he could have said no and walked away and gone and told God ... even though God already knew and all .. since he is all knowing and sees all...

But like I was saying ... Adam ... !

According to Biblical doctrine, you're correct.

The Bible holds Adam responsible for the Original Sin, even though it was Eve who succumbed to the temptation first. The reason for that is that God, when he created them both, named Adam as responsible for what happened in the Garden, thus it was Adam who suffers the blame.

And can we please stop the "it's a fairy tale" dismissals? For some people, this is a major point of faith and a deeply held conviction. Casual dismissal comes across as insulting, even though I know it's not necessarily meant to be.

 

[plasticman33]

Not a Darwin devotee, I take it!

 

[Black_Bird]

Re: Re: It was Eve's fault!

None of this would have happened if he just equippted Eve with a riding crop and some handcuffs.

Lillith was...

 

[JazzManJim]

Not a Darwin devotee, I take it!

Half and Half. I'm what you might call an Evolutionary Creationist.

 

[RawHumor]

Half and Half. I'm what you might call an Evolutionary Creationist.

I prefer "Assisted Evolutionist"

 

[Black_Bird]

Snakes evolved from fish. There is no such thing as sin.

Snakes evolved from reptiles... not fish.

"Sin" is the Egyptian word for moon...

 

[sunstruck]

I prefer "Assisted Evolutionist"

I like this one, hadn't heard it before, but it definitely describes me.

 

[SINthysist]

A story passed down by word of mouth over centuries really does border on the Fairy Tale...

I mean, honestly...

The Koreans believe a Bear-God founded their civilization. Should we, in all seriousness, debate that?

 

[Dixon Carter Lee]

The "fairy tale" comments are tongue-in-cheek, as is this whole discussion. Don't take them seriously.

Besides, I'm an atheist, and I'm not offended that there is an entire thread devoted to religious dogma.

 

[*bratcat*]

Re: Re: Duh !

 

[glamorilla]

Re: Re: Re: It was Eve's fault!

Lillith was...

Millions of years later and they still can't share the blame...

 

[plasticman33]

I prefer "Assisted Evolutionist"

Kind of like me, I'm an agnostic catholic!

 

[RawHumor]

I like this one, hadn't heard it before, but it definitely describes me.

Why thank ye, pretty lady... to the best of my knowledge, that one's an RH special.

 

[SINthysist]

Egg

 

[RawHumor]

Re: Re: Re: Duh !

This is NOT a theological debate...is God real or not...this is a where do you place the blame debate - almost like a who came first debate...and we all KNOW men are guilty of that.

Yeah, only serious arguments here!

 

[SINthysist]

Less filling.

 

[plasticman33]

Question of the ages, which came first the chicken or the egg?

(By the way, I think it was the woodsmans fault, if he hadn't killed the wolf, the wolf would have succeeded in eating Little Red Ridinghood!)

(Kind of like Cain and Able, metophorically speaking)

 

[*bratcat*]

 

[Dixon Carter Lee]

And am I the only one who sides with the Giant? I mean, this little prick breaks into my house, steals my harp and my golden goose, and when I try to get them back he chops down the beanstalk and I fall to my death. What the fuck?

 

[koalabear]

The Koreans believe a Bear-God founded their civilization. Should we, in all seriousness, debate that?

Of course not! It was a marsupial!

 

[Aphrodisiac]

Re: It was Eve's fault!

Okay, Eve was tempted by a snake. A snake people! I don't care how you dress it up, it's still a snake! How fucking tempting is a SNAKE?

Adam was tempted by his lovely Eve. Imagine this scenario, your lovely nude bride comes to you and offers you a piece of her fruit, telling you how delicious and tempting it is... how can you say 'no' to that?

She was tempted by the SNAKE ... because odds are Adam's snake was not as Tempting .........



Feels good ....

 

[*bratcat*]

Re: Re: It was Eve's fault!