Democrat Gun Control Talk Ups Gun Sales

[Weird Harold]

I own guns for home protection but I don’t think there is any greater paranoia than the gun advocates irrational fear of someone trying to take away their weapons.

The fear of the slippery slope is almost as funny as freedom fries.

Is it really paranoia when groups like Handguns International or whatever they're calling themselves now, publish strategy papers that explicitly recommend the slippery slope as their primary strategy?

I don't frequent the websites of such groups, but there used to be several groups, who include "even the smallest gains in gun control pave the way to the eventual goal of eliminating <handguns/assaultweapons/private ownership/etc> completely" or similar wording in their mission statements.

I fear "the slippery slope" because it is the publicly avowed tactic of choice for anti-gun advocates, not because I'm paranoid.

 

[KRCummings]

Well said.

I actually know people like this in real life. They're afraid all the time but they call it being "vigilant" or "being prepared." It's fear, plain and simple.
I know a man who lives in a trailer and keeps a gun in each room in case someone breaks in. He cannot understand the argument that nobody wants to break into his trailer because he's dirt poor and doesn't have anything worth stealing. He's convinced that it might happen and he has to "be prepared."
I'm pretty sure he thinks the people breaking in will be black.

 

[Killswitch]

Facts are like kryptonite to Liberals, so here's a few facts that'll make their dicks shrivel.

1. The Glock 33 round magazine's purpose is to make range practice more efficient. Less time spent changing mags, more time spent practicing.
   

1. 
   
   You're joking, right?
   
   How long does it take to change a magazine at the range, and because as you also stated the gun becomes heavy when loaded with the 33 rm, it makes the gun inefficient as a practice target weapon.
   
   In other words. Yer full of shit.

 

[doctor_insanus]

Here's another option for the whackadoos.

http://www.fitsnews.com/2011/01/06/full-metal-wilson/

 

[islandman]

You're joking, right?

How long does it take to change a magazine at the range, and because as you also stated the gun becomes heavy when loaded with the 33 rm, it makes the gun inefficient as a practice target weapon.

In other words. Yer full of shit.

Well, hell! Even Killy's been logical.

 

[KRCummings]

Well, hell! Even Killy's been a logical.

That right there shows you how dumb Miles' argument was.

 

[unregistered]

 

[KRCummings]

The actions of one man in a nation of 300 plus million is no reason to limit the liberty of the majority of law abiding Americans. By the time we governed based on every insane act we'd have no freedom left when we finished.

Which has absolutely nothing to do with the time it takes to change a magazine on a practice range.

 

[islandman]

The actions of one man in a nation of 300 plus million is no reason to limit the liberty of the majority of law abiding Americans. By the time we governed based on every insane act we'd have no freedom left when we finished.

Then how starting with governing rationally and requiring background checks and mandatory waiting periods, maybe a psych evaluation.

This way, all the crazy and murderous people can't give you law-abiding citizens a bad name.

 

[Killswitch]

The actions of one man in a nation of 300 plus million is no reason to limit the liberty of the majority of law abiding Americans. By the time we governed based on every insane act we'd have no freedom left when we finished.

I'm a liberal and am not for any kind of Gun Control. Other than assault weapons.

But to suggest a larger clip is for saving reload time at a heated indoor shooting range is retarded.

Hell you can change a standard mag in like what...2 seconds? I seen it on TV.

 

[unregistered]

 

[Joeybagadonuts]

Is it really paranoia when groups like Handguns International or whatever they're calling themselves now, publish strategy papers that explicitly recommend the slippery slope as their primary strategy?

I don't frequent the websites of such groups, but there used to be several groups, who include "even the smallest gains in gun control pave the way to the eventual goal of eliminating <handguns/assaultweapons/private ownership/etc> completely" or similar wording in their mission statements.

I fear "the slippery slope" because it is the publicly avowed tactic of choice for anti-gun advocates, not because I'm paranoid.

The NRA is bigger than the mob and US Steel combined. Any serious threat from the left is minimal, just there to act as some countepoint. The far left doesn't have the passion for this issue than the right does.

 

[Killswitch]

The actions of law abiding people on the pistol range of their choice, and the choice of their magazine types has nothing to do with what happened in Tucson either. The idea that banning them might have stopped what happened is just as nuts as the shooter.

Srsly? I mean I'm not suggesting it, and I am no mathematician, but wouldn't it be impossible to do something if it's not available?

I understand what you're suggesting but your statement is way to broad by half.

 

[Luk]

Which has absolutely nothing to do with the time it takes to change a magazine on a practice range.

He's doing that a lot lately. It's like he's deteriorating right before our Lit eyes.

 

[koalabear]

Srsly? I mean I'm not suggesting it, and I am no mathematician, but wouldn't it be impossible to do something if it's not available?

I understand what you're suggesting but your statement is way to broad by half.

The idea that a short mag will produce less death if a farce. A better shooter with an 8 round mag would have caused more death. If you want to blame any one, try the AZ Sheriff who should have been watching the guy.

 

[Wrong Element]

Maybe their numbers can be further reduced in the next election.

Or, you know, just shoot a few more and reduce them that way.

Obama being in office for two years and doing fuck all about gun control even when he had a Democratic House has apparently done nothing to calm the boundless paranoia in Wingnuttia about the imminent banning of all firearms.

Don't worry boys: No one wants your surrogate cocks, any more than they want the real ones.

 

[bronzeage]

I can't imagine the misery of living in fear like some of you losers do.
Actually worrying about the amount of rounds you have in case you get attacked by more than 4 people? That's sad.

The real solution to the four robber problem is two pistols.

http://www.411toys.com/toygun/203b.jpg

 

[koalabear]

Bunch of fuckin' idiots, you use a claymore for four.

 

[Weird Harold]

The NRA is bigger than the mob and US Steel combined. Any serious threat from the left is minimal, just there to act as some countepoint. The far left doesn't have the passion for this issue than the right does.

You've obviously not read any of Sarah Brady and other anti-gun activists statements, have you. Sarah's speech on the signing of the Brady Bill is on the web somewhere -- to my mind, she and her ilk are far more paranoid than even Charlton Heston; who did the NRA's image no favors, fwiw.

Whether they're driven by passion or cold logic, the anti-gun lobby has gotten legislaton such as the Brady Bill and Assault Weapons Ban passed against NRA opposition -- which they trumpet as "baby steps," and "milestones on the way to the eventual goal." So, who is that has more lobbying power, exactly?

I suppose the NRA has gotten tons of legislation passed against anti-gun opposition, but they must only brag about such victories within their membership, 'cause I certainly haven't heard anything like the media coverage anti-gun vistories produce.

 

[koalabear]

You've obviously not read any of Sarah Brady and other anti-gun activists statements, have you. Sarah's speech on the signing of the Brady Bill is on the web somewhere -- to my mind, she and her ilk are far more paranoid than even Charlton Heston; who did the NRA's image no favors, fwiw.

Whether they're driven by passion or cold logic, the anti-gun lobby has gotten legislaton such as the Brady Bill and Assault Weapons Ban passed against NRA opposition -- which they trumpet as "baby steps," and "milestones on the way to the eventual goal." So, who is that has more lobbying power, exactly?

I suppose the NRA has gotten tons of legislation passed against anti-gun opposition, but they must only brag about such victories within their membership, 'cause I certainly haven't heard anything like the media coverage anti-gun vistories produce.

The Brady bunch tries to use lies as facts. That is why they are little more than a pesky gnat now.

 

[islandman]

Then how starting with governing rationally and requiring background checks and mandatory waiting periods, maybe a psych evaluation.

This way, all the crazy and murderous people can't give you law-abiding citizens a bad name.

Note the deafening silence to my post about governing rationally when it comes to guns.

Evidently KRC was right all along.

 

[Joeybagadonuts]

You've obviously not read any of Sarah Brady and other anti-gun activists statements, have you. Sarah's speech on the signing of the Brady Bill is on the web somewhere -- to my mind, she and her ilk are far more paranoid than even Charlton Heston; who did the NRA's image no favors, fwiw.

Whether they're driven by passion or cold logic, the anti-gun lobby has gotten legislaton such as the Brady Bill and Assault Weapons Ban passed against NRA opposition -- which they trumpet as "baby steps," and "milestones on the way to the eventual goal." So, who is that has more lobbying power, exactly?

I suppose the NRA has gotten tons of legislation passed against anti-gun opposition, but they must only brag about such victories within their membership, 'cause I certainly haven't heard anything like the media coverage anti-gun vistories produce.

It's like killing and ant with a hammer.

Your side is insanely driven and your opposition is just not that passionate.

No one will ever take our guns away. No one, never!

 

[Weird Harold]

No one will ever take our guns away. No one, never!

Possibly not, but that doesn't keep them from trying, and trying, and trying, and trying, and trying and....

 

[unregistered]

 

[LaurahW]

When they make guns illegal only criminals will have them, then how are we supposed to defend ourselves, our homes, our children, when law enforcement response takes at least an hour?
When "lawmakers" decide to start stripping the Constitution, and our right to bear arms goes, what's next? What rights are you willing to give up for "the greater good"?
Freedom of ??
I say now, I will die on my feet before living on my knees.