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Ishmael said:
Yeah buddy, this is looking to be a real WINNER for the democrats.
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Yep. We might even keep a lot of our House seats in 2010 once the people actually realize what made it in the bill. Taking out abortion and the public option should boost support way above 50%.
 
My understanding is that there are to be 5 filibuster votes total, and two have already been passed, leaving three remaining.

I'm cautiously optimistic at this point, I think that the Republicans will rant and rave and ultimately get their way on banning abortions. Not sure about Public Option, that's maybe 50-50 (I could be overly optimistic here).
 
Ishmael said:
LMAO. The Republicans never had enough votes to filibuster, the whole affair was a Democrat show from A to Z.

And it will take 60 votes to get to cloture once the bill gets back from conference. So if the conference committee changes ANYTHING in the bill we'll be treated to the same democrat circus all over again.

Of course by then the people will have actually had a chance to read and digest the abortion the dems are trying to shove up the publics ass and al of those congress critters will be back in their states to face the wrath of the citizenry. (There is some justice in the world afterall.)

And here you are crowing about a law that 1.) you don't have a fucking clue what's in it AND 2.) the usual suspects on the left have called an abortion and want it defeated just as much as the right does.

Yeah buddy, this is looking to be a real WINNER for the democrats.

Ishmael
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And it was pushed down our throats at midnight:


The reason they're working after midnight was because Harry Reid dropped a 400-page amendment on Friday, something that has been written and kept under the cover of darkness, and that they want to have it passed as part of the bill before Americans can figure out what's in it.

  • $470 billion over the next ten years will be cut out of Medicare, and about $1 trillion in total.
  • $548 billion in new taxes starting next year. So much for reducing joblessness.
  • And the taxes on medical devices will be passed along to consumers, as will the increased regulation on private insurers, which will be passed along in the form of increased premiums. So much for reducing health care costs.
  • The CBO said that 9 million will lose employer-based insurance. So much for insuring everyone.
  • Major changes to the bi-partisan agreement not to federally fund abortion.
  • A political kamikaze mission toward an unfortunate mistake. Damaging to the Democrats, but worse for our country.

Healthcare insurance isn't a right, no matter what Ted Kennedy said. It is a privilege. The Democrats felt as though homeownership was a right, too. That feeling manifested itself into forced relaxation of bad lending practices. It also served as the root cause of our current economic crisis.

Mitch McConnell says, "The final product is a mess, and so is the process that brought us here to vote on a bill that the American people overwhelmingly oppose." He points out that other vital pieces of legislation are truly bipartisan. The Social Security Act. Medicare. The Americans With Disabilities Act. Americans believe that in issues of such importance, one party should not be able to force its will on the other; one party here thought differently. The goal here was only a blind call to make history, he says, even if it is a historical mistake. And that's exactly what this $2.3 trillion, 2733-page health care reform plan will do.
 
Sen. Ben Nelson’s “Cornhusker Kickback.” The CBO says the Nebraska Democrat sellout’s special Medicaid expansion subsidy will initially cost an estimated $100 million. The Hill reports that while Nelson credited Nebraska’s governor for giving him the idea to lobby for the government preference, Nebraska’s governor assailed the payoff: “Nebraskans did not ask for a special deal, only a fair deal,”

New England’s Special Syrup. Vermont and Massachusetts will get similar special treatment by the feds in covering Medicaid expansion costs. Combined with Nebraska’s tab, the exclusive clique’s payoffs will cost taxpayers $1.2 billion over 10 years. At least.


Another Democratic holdout, Sen. Bernie Sanders (I-Vt.), took credit for $10 billion in new funding for community health centers, while denying it was a “sweetheart deal.” He was clearly more enthusiastic about a bill he said he couldn’t support just three days ago.


Corruptocrat Connecticut Sen. Chris Dodd’s Christmas wish: Hospital helper. He’s plunging in the polls and in need of a little bacon to bring home. A $100 million item for construction of a university hospital was inserted in the Senate health care bill at the request of Sen. Christopher Dodd, D-Conn., who faces a difficult re-election campaign, his office said Sunday night.


“Some insurers are more equal than others” tax exemption. The WSJ reports that nonprofit insurance companies will be exempt from a new, nearly $7 billion tax to pay for Demcare. Democrat Sens. Ben “Blank Check” Nelson and Carl Levin of Michigan pushed hard for the tax exemption, which will exempt insurers in their states.

Similar insurers in the other 48 states will pay the tax.


The Frontier freebie. Several lucky states will see an increase in Medicare payments to hospitals and doctors, the NYT reports, — “where at least 50 percent of the counties are ‘frontier counties,’ defined as those having a population density less than six people per square mile. And which are the lucky states? The bill gives no clue. But the Congressional Budget Office has determined that Montana, North Dakota, South Dakota, Utah and Wyoming meet the criteria.”


More Democrat hospital bennies. Also via NYT: “Another provision of the bill would increase Medicare payments to certain “low-volume hospitals” treating limited numbers of Medicare patients. Senator Tom Harkin, Democrat of Iowa and chairman of the Senate health committee, said this ‘important fix’ would help midsize Iowa hospitals in Grinnell, Keokuk and Spirit Lake.


Another item in Mr. Reid’s package specifies the data that Medicare officials should use in adjusting payments to hospitals to reflect local wage levels. The officials can use certain new data only if it produces a higher index and therefore higher Medicare payments for these hospitals. Senate Democrats said this provision would benefit hospitals in Connecticut and Michigan.”


Bernie Sanders’ socialized medicine sop. He wanted a public option. Instead, he got socialized medicine satellite clinics funded to the tune of at least $10 billion. In his remarks early this morning before the cloture vote, he gloated about the funding as a crucial step toward universal care. Sen. Bernie Sanders, I-Vt., scored a big victory, too, with the inclusion in the amendment package of $10 billion to expand community health centers across the country — including at least two more in Vermont.


Fla.-Pa.-NY Protectionism. Via Politico: “Three states – Pennsylvania, New York and Florida – all won protections for their Medicare Advantage beneficiaries at a time when the program is facing cuts nationwide.”


All of this came on top of a $300 million increase for Medicaid in Louisiana, designed to win the vote of Democratic Sen. Mary Landrieu.


Many governors are worried that the Medicaid expansion will further strain already stressed state budgets. Republicans offered a compromise that 49 other states demanding that the feds pick up their share of health reform’s new Medicaid burden when it kicks in during 2017. Democrats denied the provision.


“This bill is a monstrosity, a 2,100-page monstrosity full of special deals for people who are willing to vote for it,” said Senate Republican Leader Mitch McConnell. “And they’re playing these kind of games with the nation’s health care. This is an outrage.”


“The Democrats are playing ‘Let’s make a deal’ with trillions of your hard-earned tax dollars. You and all the American people should know that the majority leader is buying his votes with your money,” said Enzi (R-Wyo.) “The Reid bill gives sweetheart deals to a few states and the rest of the country will foot the bill. Making unfair deals like this is the wrong way to legislate and the American people know it.”



And you know there are many more untold payoffs — paid by stealing taxpayers' money — yet to be stuffed into this bureaucratic monstrosity.
 
MeeMie said:
Sen. Ben Nelson’s “Cornhusker Kickback.” The CBO says the Nebraska Democrat sellout’s special Medicaid expansion subsidy will initially cost an estimated $100 million. The Hill reports that while Nelson credited Nebraska’s governor for giving him the idea to lobby for the government preference, Nebraska’s governor assailed the payoff: “Nebraskans did not ask for a special deal, only a fair deal,”
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http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=N-yZFbzaWbg
 
anything that has the backing of the American Medical Association has to be stupid and a train wreck....right?
 
coastal-boy said:
anything that has the backing of the American Medical Association has to be stupid and a train wreck....right?
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That's about as convincing as saying that it has the backing of AARP.

Ask the millions of former AARP members who have cancelled their memberships if they back the deal.

The deals made and bought to shove socialized medicine down the throats of American taxpayers only make the stench more obviousl.
 
MeeMie said:
That's about as convincing as saying that it has the backing of AARP.

Ask the millions of former AARP members who have cancelled their memberships if they back the deal.

The deals made and bought to shove socialized medicine down the throats of American taxpayers only make the stench more obviousl.
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you're about as convincing as your avatar.
 
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