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and this proves my point entirely.You have your health care and everybody else can wait. Got it.
and negates credibility on anything further you may have to say on any subject
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and this proves my point entirely.You have your health care and everybody else can wait. Got it.
So you admit you personally have health care but not too concerned if anybody else gets it anytime soon. They just have wait because that's the way the system works and I've got mine so it's okay.and this proves my point entirely.
and negates credibility on anything further you may have to say on any subject
Hillary Clinton is an imperialist warmonger and anti-working class. I voted for Jill Stein because she had the best policies of all the candidates. I'm glad that Donald Trump beat Hillary Clinton to this day. His speeches and rhetoric could at least make me think "Yeah, drain that swamp, tear it all down" even if he obviously didn't have the policies to do it, while Clinton was business as usual. We don't want "business as usual", but serious, widespread, systematic changes.•
Um, Hillary spoke truth to evil when she called out the racist, bigoted, fascist Deplorables that constitute a significant number of “republican” party “members”.
Hillary won the popularr vote by over 3 million despite being attacked from the right, the left, misogynists, and the self loathing handmaids who buy into the “women aren’t cut out to be President” BS.
Hillary didn’t let anyone down with her campaign. - And a sizable majority of Americans didn’t let Hillary down.
Just sayin’
Democrats don't care if they win. Their top priority is to maintain the status quo. If that means losing to the dumbest Republicans to ever run for office, so be it.Hillary Clinton is an imperialist warmonger and anti-working class. I voted for Jill Stein because she had the best policies of all the candidates. I'm glad that Donald Trump beat Hillary Clinton to this day. His speeches and rhetoric could at least make me think "Yeah, drain that swamp, tear it all down" even if he obviously didn't have the policies to do it, while Clinton was business as usual. We don't want "business as usual", but serious, widespread, systematic changes.
Criticize me if you wish, but that's how I feel, and how millions of people feel, including those of us who would never actually vote for Donald Trump. I'd have voted for Bernie Sanders against Trump in 2016 in a heartbeat, but the DNC colluded to make Clinton their candidate, just like they did with Biden in 2020.
As for the popular vote in 2016, let's say the following. Considering that Clinton won by over 4 million votes in California alone and won the nationwide popular vote by just under 3 million, I'm not sure why people keep mentioning the popular vote. Trump won 30 states to Clinton's 20 states. The record number of states won for the loser of a presidential election was 27, i.e. Gerald Ford in 1976.
•I'd have voted for Bernie Sanders against Trump in 2016 in a heartbeat, but the DNC colluded to make Clinton their candidate, just like they did with Biden in 2020.
Absolutely.Democrats don't care if they win. Their top priority is to maintain the status quo. If that means losing to the dumbest Republicans to ever run for office, so be it.
It's not our job to "help Hillary". She is a political enemy of ours. Bernie was dumb to ever endorse her. He could have started a real Labor Party alternative to the Democrats.•
Thank you for proving my point that it WAS intransigent Bernie Bros that helped sink Hillary.
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No. It's the exact opposite. HRC would have suffered an even more embarrassing loss if it wasn't for Bernie. You should be thanking him instead of bashing him.•
Thank you for proving my point that it WAS intransigent Bernie Bros that helped sink Hillary.
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you are blinded to comprehension by your passion. i'd already come to that conclusion by this post of yours. you are wrong on all counts. do i intend to discuss my personal finances or health care situation with you here? no, of course not.So you admit you personally have health care but not too concerned if anybody else gets it anytime soon. They just have wait because that's the way the system works and I've got mine so it's okay.
Is that about right?
Oh fer Christ sake. You act like I asked you to post your medical records online. The reason I know you have health insurance is because you mentioned it another thread. Your "personal" health care situation is something you already put out there. Which quite frankly is as about as personal and intimate as having car insurance or home insurance.you are blinded to comprehension by your passion. i'd already come to that conclusion by this post of yours. you are wrong on all counts. do i intend to discuss my personal finances or health care situation with you here? no, of course not.
stick with someone as equally oblivious as you are, like that rebecca moron. have fun.
Y'all keep talking this shit.So you admit you personally have health care but not too concerned if anybody else gets it anytime soon. They just have wait because that's the way the system works and I've got mine so it's okay.
Is that about right?
You talk about "Bernie Bros" like they are one big blob.•
So let’s review:
We now have a Bernie Bro ADMITTING that they didn’t vote for Hillary in 2016, which totally DESTROYS the canard that Bernie Bros voted for Hillary and bear no responsibility for the rapey, corrupt orange traitor becoming the “President”. The “President” who then , PACKED THE SCOTUS WITH RIGHT WING EXTREMISTS, GUTTED ENVIRONMENTAL EFFORTS, GAVE RACISM AND HATE THE BULLY PULPIT, ALIENATED ALLIES, EMBOLDENED AUTOCRATS, PROVIDED TAX CUTS FOR YHE WEALTHY, ETC, ETC, ETC.
Thanks a lot Bernie Bros. See you again in 2024…….apparently.
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•You talk about "Bernie Bros" like they are one big blob.
Why don't you blame the Democrats for colluding to defeat Bernie Sanders in 2016 and force Hillary Clinton as the nominee, which then landed us with President Trump? Why instead are you having a go at people for refusing to vote for an imperialist warmonger and corporate Democrat?
Rather than look inwards, Hillary Clinton and the corporate Democrats will say "Look over there. It's Russia!", and carry on with their same old nonsense.
Neither, thanks.The ONLY REAL choice in the 2016 general election was between Hillary or the rapey, corrupt orange traitor.
It's Tweedledum Bourgeois or Tweedledee Bourgeois, but it's Clinton who represented business as usual. People don't want business as usual, but big changes. Trump's rhetoric of "drain the swamp", therefore, connected with millions of people. If Sanders had been Trump's opponent, Sanders will have been talking about war on the billionaire class, i.e. talking about big changes, not business as usual. The establishment want business as usual, and they fear left-wing change more than right-wing change.The right wing radicals went all in on their “champion” while the left wing purists pouted and didn’t vote / threw away their vote because Hillary was supposedly “worse”.
It's hilarious how Clinton supporters think that we owe them our votes. I explained how forcing Clinton as the Democratic candidate led to President Trump. Look inwards at yourselves, and don't blame Russia, or "Bernie Bros" or anything else. Why did you fail? What could you have done differently? How can you change in future? Biden was better at appealing to blue collar areas in 2020, and that's why he won, but he's not much different in power and his foreign policy is a disaster.Again: Bernie Bros admitted to NOT voting for Hillary in 2016, thus DESTROYING their canard that they don’t bear responsibility for the rapey, corrupt orange traitor becoming “President”.
I'd rather vote for what I want and not get it, than vote for what I don't want and get it.•
I’m not a “supporter” of any candidate; I’m a “supporter” of PROGRESSIVE POLICIES and JUDICIAL PHILOSOPHIES and vote for the person most likely to ACTUALLY GET ELECTED and ADVANCE those POLICIES and JUDICIAL PHILOSOPHIES.
By not voting for Hillary in 2016, the far left purists set back PROGRESSIVE POLICIES and JUDICIAL PHILOSOPHIES.
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Absolutely not. More pro-big business policies, more warmongering. That is not progressive.•
Hillary would have ADVANCED PROGRESSIVE POLICIES and JUDICIAL PHILOSOPHIES.
Complete delusion on your part, I'm afraid. If you really believe it, that is.Instead, the far left purists helped SET BACK PROGRESSIVE POLICIES and JUDICIAL PHILOSOPHIES by being intractable.
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How about a $40 per hour minimum wage?Democrats are doing petty BS instead of pushing progress because there's no progress left to achieve.
He certainly did a lot of damage to the "business as usual" attitude of the corporate Democrats and conservative anti-Trump Republicans.•
Yeah, the rapey, corrupt orange traitor definitely advanced progressive policies and judicial philosophers more than Hillary would have.
Not really.He certainly did a lot of damage to the "business as usual" attitude of the corporate Democrats and conservative anti-Trump Republicans.