Dichotomies in fiction (and life)

[Bamagan]

It’s a monogamy thing. And my husband to be isn’t awfully girly.

Em

Well, then, we need to get you and @MediocreAuthor to have some monogamous lesbian BDSM together. We can call it Em & M: Taste the Rainbow.

I will see myself to the door, it's been nice meeting you all.

 

[EmilyMiller]

Well, then, we need to get you and @MediocreAuthor to have some monogamous lesbian BDSM together. We can call it Em & M: Taste the Rainbow.

I will see myself to the door, it's been nice meeting you all.

I have easy access (a phone call and drive; OK the drive might take several hours, maybe a flight) to all the lesbian BDSM I could ever desire. But I’m being a good girl.

I’m happy with where my life is going. Just occasionally wistful (or is it fist-full, i alway get those muddled up?) for past times.

Em

 

[Winter_Fare]

I know a lot of fiction deals in black and whites. But do you have characters who are simultaneously sweet and dirty?

The late baroness Amelia-Marie von Schoenborn-Buchheim. Very sweet loving dutiful person, and remains so throughout the Embrace series, but her character progression is a slippery slope down hill to orgies and coercive control. The more evil she encounters, the more of a hedonist she becomes.

 

[MediocreAuthor]

Well, then, we need to get you and @MediocreAuthor to have some monogamous lesbian BDSM together. We can call it Em & M: Taste the Rainbow.

I will see myself to the door, it's been nice meeting you all.

Sir, you are gonna have to figure out one of these days that I am straight, married, and super monogamous.

 

[EmilyMiller]

Sir, you are gonna have to figure out one of these days that I am straight, married, and super monogamous.

I’m at least one of those things. Two next year.

Em

 

[Bramblethorn]

I know a lot of fiction deals in black and whites. But do you have characters who are simultaneously sweet and dirty?

Depends what counts as "dirty", but probably Anjali from "Red Scarf". I don't see it as a contradiction there; IME it's fairly common for autistic people to be simultaneously "sweet" (naïve, honest, kind) while having little interest in following social conventions just for the sake of it.

 

[AchtungNight]

The women in my fanfic are ethical sluts, many of them religious in various ways. Recently I've femslashed a polyamorous paladin with a redeemed succubus. Fun times. https://www.literotica.com/s/pathfinder-union-of-the-righteous

 

[EmilyMiller]

Depends what counts as "dirty", but probably Anjali from "Red Scarf". I don't see it as a contradiction there; IME it's fairly common for autistic people to be simultaneously "sweet" (naïve, honest, kind) while having little interest in following social conventions just for the sake of it.

Had not thought about that. Will do now.

Em

 

[MediocreAuthor]

Everyone here knows what I write, so let me introduce you to the finest flavor in all NC/R.

"Shame vs Desire"

When you're given something that you secretly want, but part of you says that your not supposed to want it... you desire it so badly, but you're so embarrassed to admit it to yourself how bad you secretly need it.

That is the finest spice in resistance stories...

Oh! -chef's kiss-

 

[TxRad]

Wet

Good girl/bad girl, Which one will win.

 

[PennameWombat]

I know a lot of fiction deals in black and whites. But do you have characters who are simultaneously sweet and dirty?

Em

I'm writing erotica here (mostly), so most all of my male and female characters have this duality. I do have criminals, but even most of them I try not to make one-dimensional.

Ladonna (Ladonna's Quandary) is outwardly a dutiful Mormon wife, who does have a job (so isn't purely a housewife), but after she meets Janice (a police officer about the same age, mid-20s) her hidden lesbian sub side is slowly unpeeled. Well, not publicly as yet.

Asha and Tracy (You Promised Me Geeks) are geek girls, friends and occasional lovers. But, as Tracy thinks of her "red-headed friend who can gather suitors and order them to fight to the death, when she's so inclined. And she is occasionally so inclined."

 

[Kumquatqueen]

Nice girls who find they have an inner slut? I've written a fair few of those...

In 'Educating Laura', a student volunteer at a camp for underprivileged youth gets together with a guy for casual sex, then ends up with another, and then muses that "if I was in the middle of a threesome with two guys, neither of whom I was in a relationship with, that made me the kind of girl who used words like 'cunt', right?"

Emily in 'I Say Ass, You Say Arse...' looks incredibly respectable in a suit giving a lecture, and then does things that would surprise most of the listeners.

My Crime & Punishment story is similar, but also plays with the idea of all the decorum and all in the Houses of Parliament vs potential filth there.

I've also got confident charismatic men who are submissive underneath. There's a pleasing contrast between a well-cut suit and a cock cage under it...

 

[EmilyMiller]

Emily in 'I Say Ass, You Say Arse...' looks incredibly respectable in a suit giving a lecture, and then does things that would surprise most of the listeners.

And the name yet again .

Em

 

[Kumquatqueen]

And the name yet again .

Em

What you get for adopting the commonest girl's name in the Western Hemisphere in the last 40 years, innit? My stories include a Sarah, Clare, Laura, Michelle, Louise...

She's called Emily Bannatyne, after I googled various options and eliminated those who actually were eminent molecular biologists...

 

[MillieDynamite]

I avoid redheads named Michelle unless I'm pissed at my sister.

 

[EmilyMiller]

What you get for adopting the commonest girl's name in the Western Hemisphere in the last 40 years, innit? My stories include a Sarah, Clare, Laura, Michelle, Louise...

She's called Emily Bannatyne, after I googled various options and eliminated those who actually were eminent molecular biologists...

Blame my parents!

Well actually blame me, as it’s my middle name, but I chose to use it.

Em

 

[Kumquatqueen]

Blame my parents!

Well actually blame me, as it’s my middle name, but I chose to use it.

Em

Just think how many fewer threads we might have had if you'd chosen to call yourself TrudieMcGuffin...

 

[MillieDynamite]

If she is TrudieMcGuffin, is she a distraction from the thread and only there to give it a purpose to exist?

Just think how many fewer threads we might have had if you'd chosen to call yourself TrudieMcGuffin...

Hitchcock wants to know.

 

[stickygirl]

I confess I only skim read this so someone more eloquent has probably mentioned this - that you fallen into your own hefferlump trap

I suppose I’m thinking about this because I’ve been writing a new Angels & Demons story featuring my she-demon, Emma, and disgraced angel, Lily. It’s an obvious dichotomy. Good vs bad. Sweet and innocent vs dirty and corrupted.

Save of course that Emma can be sweet and Lily filthy.

But even these words had me wondering. We do say of people that they are sweet or dirty. She’s a sweet girl. She’s a dirty slut. Not both.

I know a lot of fiction deals in black and whites. But do you have characters who are simultaneously sweet and dirty?

Em

I confess I only skim read this thread so someone more eloquent has probably mentioned this - that you fallen into the stereotype trope where women are either slutty or frigid. No doubt your fleshy fleshed out stories will give them scope to show multi faceted characters?

It's no secret that people project themselves differently depending on company and context. While Mr Ponseby might make no secret of his interest in steam trains at work, his colleagues might be surprised to find his penchant for taking it up the tunnel himself? Such disclosures make for a difficult working environment, so people are pigeon holed into submissive giggling-with-great-tits-office-minion or ball-busting-she-bitch-office-manager. Social shorthand is convenient but seldom nuanced.

I'm sure your nipple-clamping demon will get what's coming on her

 

[EmilyMiller]

I confess I only skim read this so someone more eloquent has probably mentioned this - that you fallen into your own hefferlump trap

I confess I only skim read this thread so someone more eloquent has probably mentioned this - that you fallen into the stereotype trope where women are either slutty or frigid. No doubt your fleshy fleshed out stories will give them scope to show multi faceted characters?

It's no secret that people project themselves differently depending on company and context. While Mr Ponseby might make no secret of his interest in steam trains at work, his colleagues might be surprised to find his penchant for taking it up the tunnel himself? Such disclosures make for a difficult working environment, so pigeon holing people into submissive giggling-with-great-tits-office-minion or ball-busting-she-bitch-office-manager. Social shorthand is convenient but seldom nuanced.

I'm sure your nipple-clamping demon will get what's coming on her

You’ll have to read the new story when it’s published and give it a trope rating .

Em

 

[stickygirl]

You’ll have to read the new story when it’s published and give it a trope rating .

Em

I'll break out my best spangling trope frock

 

[MediocreAuthor]

And the name yet again .

Em

If it makes you feel any better, I will never use your name in any of my stories. I have a close relative with that name, and so I can't use it.

Considering what I write, and your feelings on the topic, I'm sure you'll consider that a blessing.

 

[EmilyMiller]

If it makes you feel any better, I will never use your name in any of my stories. I have a close relative with that name, and so I can't use it.

Considering what I write, and your feelings on the topic, I'm sure you'll consider that a blessing.

It’s a weight off my mind (term used advisedly).



Em