Dispelling the Margaret Sanger lies

[neci]

http://www.nyu.edu/projects/sanger/articles/bc_or_race_control.php

plagiarist.

so when you said you were going to quote yourself again you meant you were going to steal someone else's work and post it unaccredited? good to know.

thank you. BBS, the way you started it off, you took credit for the words. why is it so hard for someone pretending to be an educated woman, to act like an educated woman? the article is wonderful, but you act like an ignorant cunt when you steal someone else's words and write them off as your own. i'm pretty sure that could get the whole thread deleted, then what point have you made? you do nothing for any movement when you steal and then act higher than your opposition.

 

[BotanyBoy]

thank you. BBS, the way you started it off, you took credit for the words. why is it so hard for someone pretending to be an educated woman, to act like an educated woman? the article is wonderful, but you act like an ignorant cunt when you steal someone else's words and write them off as your own. i'm pretty sure that could get the whole thread deleted, then what point have you made? you do nothing for any movement when you steal and then act higher than your opposition.

Uber level for doing everything in her power to deflect from it and not own up to being an ignorant cunt in 1st place.....double cunt factor for that shit

 

[VaticanAssassin]

“keep the doors of immigration closed to the entrance of certain aliens whose condition is known to be detrimental to the stamina of the race, such as feeble minded, idiots, morons, Insane, syphilitic, epileptic, criminal, professional prostitutes, and others in this class barred by the immigration laws of 1924.”

While no doubt a racist cunt of a woman... I can not say she had it all wrong.

 

[Sean Renaud]

People who claim to have a long memory thought that BBS was stealing this? So by long memory you mean approximatly 10 seconds. Because I knew from reading half this shit this morning that she didn't mean they were her words, she meant she was going to literally hit the quote button on posts she'd already made in the past.

 

[pointless]

People who claim to have a long memory thought that BBS was stealing this? So by long memory you mean approximatly 10 seconds. Because I knew from reading half this shit this morning that she didn't mean they were her words, she meant she was going to literally hit the quote button on posts she'd already made in the past.

you did not.

and she steals all the time.

also, she's abandoned the thread. take the hint.

 

[Sean Renaud]

you did not.

and she steals all the time.

also, she's abandoned the thread. take the hint.

Yes I did, because I not only read this early today I'm not a fucking retard. She may steal all the time, I haven't read every post she's written but this was obvious to anybody who's been on today.

She's abandoned the thread? Bit early to make that call even if she has that doesn't make her point ant less accurate.

 

[pointless]

Yes I did, because I not only read this early today I'm not a fucking retard. She may steal all the time, I haven't read every post she's written but this was obvious to anybody who's been on today.

She's abandoned the thread? Bit early to make that call even if she has that doesn't make her point ant less accurate.

yeah, i'm not going to bother arguing this with you. i will let you know that what you just said brought a wry smirk to my face. also, i rolled my eyes at least once. have fun with that.

 

[Sean Renaud]

That's quite alright, it's nice not to have to waste time on people who clearly are in the wrong.

 

[Ulaven_Demorte]

That's quite alright, it's nice not to have to waste time on people who clearly are in the wrong.

You'll notice that rather than address the content of the posts they have decided instead to attack the messenger.

Telling that.

 

[Sean Renaud]

That's pretty much par for the course. And it's not like she shouldn't have left links and proper citation and all that good stuff. It's that if you thought those were her words for more than the first paragraph or two there is something wrong with you, and since this same conversation is spread over like three threads now they had to have read some of this already in the last 24 hours.

 

[LJ_Reloaded]

that would be a reasonable thing to say.. if PP was a for profit business




Because there aren't.. have you been paying attention to the news.. they're getting shut down left right and center across your nation.. Texas has what, 7 family planning clinics left in the entire state? and 3 of them are PP

This is why I want NO ACTION taken about PP while Republicans are in any position to steer said action. That's yet another why I despise red states, Texas in particular. They want to wipe out PP, and I've no desire to see that happen.

and PP isnt a for profit business..so their funding has nothing to do with corporate welfare..I really dont know where you're getting that from

I'll speak on this below.

so you want people to get covered by PP...but you dont want PP to cover them

My point is, hospitals and small clinics have to fund themselves. PP should do the same. However I also said that all SERVICES that all these organizations provide, should be covered by insurance. Go to PP for contraception? Covered by Medicare-for-all. Go to a clinic for prenatal care? Covered by Medicare-for-all.

According to the rwcj.. glad to see you jumping to your masters defense..

ROTFLMAO the RWCJ fucking doesn't actually care about eugenics or racism, you fucking feminazi. They're just using this for political football. The RWCJ fuckers used to be eugenists and they're still racists. They want to get rid of Planned Parenthood entirely, and I've no desire to do that.

the eugenicst part, absolutely and that's a huge black mark.. the racist part.. MLK had a much different view on Sanger about that. as I showed above.. but I guess MLK hated black people too right?

As I said, you asserted a lot, with no citations whatsoever.

so you want to do that.. by ensuring the one group that is trying to do that... gets cut off at the knees?

I don't mind PP existing, or covering people. I want them to do so on an even playing field with other clinics. I want taxpayer dollars going to fund the SERVICES, not the company.

But like I said there can be no good done at all as long as Conservatives have a say in it.

 

[Ulaven_Demorte]

Someone should point out to LeJackass that there IS NO medicare-for-all.
He's thinking of medicaid, but there's no medicaid-for-all either.

Because some jackass red states decided not to expand the program with the ACA.

 

[Sean Renaud]

Which he made clear he understands. His argument against PP is that we should have universal health care and that it's bullshit that PP gets funded instead of everybody who opens a clinic. He goes on to state that until such a time comes he's perfectly happy to keep PP around.

 

[LadyFunkenstein]

I am pro-choice, and I really hate Sanger's views on eugenics and her coded racial language. It sickens me. She sickens me. I will simply copy my own post from other thread here.

NYU has published her public papers and speeches online for all to see. There is no need to take someone else's word for it, just read her writings yourself. Here are links to some of her papers along with the first paragraph or so, without my commentary. Now you have something to debate:

Margaret Sanger, "The Function of Sterilization," Oct 1926.

The Question of race betterment is one of immediate concern, and I am glad to say that the United States Government has already taken certain steps to control th equality of our population through the drastic immigration laws.

There is a quota restriction by which only so many people from each country are allowed to enter our shores each month. It is the latest method adopted by our government to solve the population problem. Most people are convinced that this policy is right, and agree that we should slow down on the number as well as the kind of immigrants coming here.

But while we close our gates to the co-called “undesirables” from other countries, we make no attempt to discourage or cut down the rapid multiplication of the unfit and undesirable at home.

Margaret Sanger, "Birth Control and Racial Betterment," Feb 1919.

Before eugenists and others who are laboring for racial betterment can succeed, they must first clear the way for Birth Control. Like the advocates of Birth Control, the eugenists, for instance, are seeking to assist the race toward the elimination of the unfit. Both are seeking a single end but they lay emphasis upon different methods.

Margaret Sanger, " [The Unfit] ," n.d..

One authority claims that out of our population of one hundred million only fifteen million can be regarded as intelligent. That eighty-five million have less than average mental capacity and compare to the youth of fifteen years--under this comes the morons, feebleminded, high grade imbeciles, then idiots, etc.

From this grade come paupers, prostitutes, criminals, tramps, inebriates, all tending to be born somewhat defective. The histories of some of the degenerate families have gone on record. Jukes in this country who in five generations produced 709 known descendants who were not only unfit but a constant and continuous danger and burden to society throughout the five generations.

 

[LJ_Reloaded]

Which he made clear he understands. His argument against PP is that we should have universal health care and that it's bullshit that PP gets funded instead of everybody who opens a clinic. He goes on to state that until such a time comes he's perfectly happy to keep PP around.

You called it perfectly. And the thing is, Cuckold Munchausen understands this. He just wants to have at me because he saw me post.

He'll calm down his "perforate you" rage once his legal copy of Call of Duty and his new PS4 controller arrives in the mail.

 

[Sean Renaud]

This however being the real world you know you'll die before we see UHC in this country right? Hell barring some truly legendary politician or a near complete collapse of the system I'll die before that happens. Even most Democrats aren't particularly comfy with anything that can be called socialism.

 

[VaticanAssassin]

Address her post? You mean her stolen PR puff article?

Fuck off you dumb cunts.

She was a silly racist bitch. Yes there are mis quotes out there. That doesn't change what she belived. But because your small minds can't get past your sheep mentality you defend this piece of shit. Thus making you a piece of shit as well.

Your slave mentality is showing.

I'm pro choice so no political agenda here. Just the truth.

 

[IrezumiKiss]

Some poor diminutive mook still thinks this is about defending Sanger herself as a person and trying to say she didn't have racist feels towards black people.

Of course, actual nuance and critical thought over race and racism, as well as recognizing that Sanger's words are being disingenuously misinterpreted to say she endeavored to be a junior Hitler towards black people and her end game was genocide is completely lost on those who find a shitty, racist thread called "Name That Asian" a form of high-falutin' hilarity.

 

[BotanyBoy]

Because some jackass red states decided not to expand the program with the ACA.

They aren't jack ass's...they just don't want any part of the gigantic economic butt fuck you seem to think is the greatest thing since sliced bread but is just a more expensive...slightly and I use this term lightly *better* than before.

 

[Sean Renaud]

No no, they are jack asses. Regardless of how you feel about Obamacare these chumps would have marched on the White House if UHC had somehow been passed. Besides we're talking about the same guys who still rock Confederate Flags. We could find a couple hundred ways to get them back on the Jack Ass reserve even if old school American Health Care had been outstanding.

 

[BotanyBoy]

No no, they are jack asses.

They are but that's not the problem with ACA.

Regardless of how you feel about Obamacare these chumps would have marched on the White House if UHC had somehow been passed.

Not if we weren't so off the fucking charts greedy about it.

Show them a trillion dollars hell even 500 billion in savings (TOTALLY doable) and they will be faced with an offer they can't refuse.

Taking care of Americans and saving money while doing it....SOLD!!!! Sure there will be a few Ishmales and eyers out there crying about the antichrist and such...but the majority would vote their wallet.

Besides we're talking about the same guys who still rock Confederate Flags. We could find a couple hundred ways to get them back on the Jack Ass reserve even if old school American Health Care had been outstanding.

They still vote their wallets.....

 

[Sean Renaud]

Clearly the South does not vote their wallets and haven't since they lost this one war against the people up North.

That being said a trillion dollars in savings? I doubt that's possible, certainly not if we're talking all from the government and even if it saved a trillion dollars all it would take is someone running around screaming 'socialism' and those people would still march on the White House. Especially if a Democrat did it but being fair they didn't really take it lying down when Bush did it. Reagan was the last Republican to get away with it.

 

[BotanyBoy]

Clearly the South does not vote their wallets and haven't since they lost this one war against the people up North.

Ehhh....yes and no. Depends on a few factors that can sometimes trump money...namely JEEEEEZEUCE!!!!

Know what I noticed the biggest shit is? It's harder to make big bux in the south but it's easier to make a living when you're poor/lower middle class there too.

That being said a trillion dollars in savings? I doubt that's possible, certainly not if we're talking all from the government

I don't see why not....we spend nearly 3x as much per person as the UK and they have fuckin' UHC. Why? Coporateknob jobbing in DC with teh congress critters that's why.

and even if it saved a trillion dollars all it would take is someone running around screaming 'socialism' and those people would still march on the White House. Especially if a Democrat did it but being fair they didn't really take it lying down when Bush did it. Reagan was the last Republican to get away with it.

Oh for sure some would....but I think enough zeros will outright buy a super majority.

BUT NOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO gotta have 500 dollar aspirins and 12,000 dollar fuckin' band-aid's and shit Not to mention the monetary backlash against soooooooooooooooo many huge companies fuck. Coca Cola...junk food in general....the agricultural industry in general. My god the ramifications would be LONG lasting and drastic.

McDonalds and KFC aren't about to let that happen......yea it would be a fight but I think and still hold out hope that the people will one day wake up. Just kidding, botgirl and I are moving to ultra fucking nowhere, fuck humanity.

 

[Ulaven_Demorte]

Ehhh....yes and no. Depends on a few factors that can sometimes trump money...namely JEEEEEZEUCE!!!!

Know what I noticed the biggest shit is? It's harder to make big bux in the south but it's easier to make a living when you're poor/lower middle class there too.



I don't see why not....we spend nearly 3x as much per person as the UK and they have fuckin' UHC. Why? Coporateknob jobbing in DC with teh congress critters that's why.



Oh for sure some would....but I think enough zeros will outright buy a super majority.

BUT NOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO gotta have 500 dollar aspirins and 12,000 dollar fuckin' band-aid's and shit Not to mention the monetary backlash against soooooooooooooooo many huge companies fuck. Coca Cola...junk food in general....the agricultural industry in general. My god the ramifications would be LONG lasting and drastic.

McDonalds and KFC aren't about to let that happen......yea it would be a fight but I think and still hold out hope that the people will one day wake up. Just kidding, botgirl and I are moving to ultra fucking nowhere, fuck humanity.

Say hello to your neighbor, Eyer.

 

[JAMESBJOHNSON]

I want Sanger on the ten dollar bill for her service to white America.