Donnie-T pours cold water on his own rally attendees

[JKendallDane]

The fact that you can't point to any actual racism doesn't make it a 'dog whistle'.

Well if you pull sentences apart and out of context anyone and everyone is just as racist as DJT!!!

He never said "Mexicans are rapist"....that's an outright lie.

Let's go to video tape of 45 after his golden escalator ride the summer of 2015: "The Mexican Government is forcing their most unwanted people into the United States. They are, in many cases, criminals, drug dealers, rapists, etc."

"My African American" .....pulled out of context, you should be ashamed of your dishonesty.

Because specifically pointing out one of the very few black faces at that rally with the words "MY African American" couldn't possibly have any racial overtones attached to them.

"Indian blood" and "Pocahontas" are jabs at a white woman for pretending to be American Indian.

(and then this to YDB: ) And no, clowning a white woman for pretending to be an American Indian so she can collect on benefits just doesn't make the cut.

Elizabeth Warren never "pretended to be an American Indian" nor did she ever "collect benefits" available to Native Americans. Did she overstate the bloodline in her ancestry because of long-handed-down family stories? According to the DNA test, probably so. Even if that purity is only 1/1024, that's still one point higher than what's found in the guy that was bragging about "wishing I had Indian blood" in a state heavily populated with Native Americans. As the article in the OP said, 45's rally crowd reacted to that tone-deaf comment and it wasn't a GOOD reaction.

And on and on and on.......like I said, when you pull peoples words apart and out of context? Everyone and anyone is whatever you want them to be.

One doesn't need to pull words apart to hear the dog whistles when he's spitting out things like "MY Hispanics" and attacking an American-born, raised, and educated judge by singularly and specifically questioning his judicial prudence based on him being of Mexican descent.

You requested it, if you can't pick one of the half dozen or other so points you allegedly see in the article where POTUS was "off the rails" then I guess there weren't really any of those points.

Here's three, Take your best shot.

"He mentioned the manufacturing jobs we lost in New Mexico under “Obama” a number of times and how he had brought our manufacturing jobs back, plus much more since he’s been President. Manufacturing? In New Mexico?"

"I believe he really lost the enthusiasm of the crowd however when he boasted over and over about being more “elite than the elite,” having more and bigger houses than the “so-called elite in Washington,” having more money, having gone to better schools than they, and bragging about not being afraid of “them.” "

"He mentioned how well he did in Michigan: a lot. Michigan? At a rally in New Mexico? Isn’t that where Flint is located and so many auto plants have been closing since his election?"

Donnie-T's rallies are where we get to see the real DJT. Disjointed thinking. Completely fact adverse. Blatant lying. Open bullying. Hysterically and embarrassingly masturbating his own ego. The New Mexico rally showed that even his most ardent supporters are starting to have questions about whether or not all the marbles are still in the bag.

It's not a good sign when even the cheerleaders are putting down their pom-poms because the coach is coming across as being about one crazed moment away from rushing onto the playing field naked.

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[JKendallDane]

HOw do you know a dog whistle is not imaginary? A dog comes running. And that's exactly what's happened.

Quite possibly one of the best and most accurate one-liners ever.

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[JKendallDane]

it will be interesting to know just how much cold water he pours out about this whistleblower problem on a phone call thing he has now going on.

Probably will be hidden under a lot of other stuff so you forget about it. of course with him you never know it could just be another way to hide something else.

His tweet on this asked who would believe he was capable of breaching national security on a telephone call so many (like the whistle blower, for instance, ) were listening in on. Shows how detached from reality the crazy man is.

Yeah, that must be a really nasty ticking time bomb when they are so desperate to keep it hidden that even America's #1 cop, Bobby Barr, is willing to openly and blatantly break several federal laws over it.

45 may have to do something really drastic...like order an invasion of Norway...to make this one go away.

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[BotanyBoy]

Let's go to video tape of 45 after his golden escalator ride the summer of 2015: "The Mexican Government is forcing their most unwanted people into the United States. They are, in many cases, criminals, drug dealers, rapists, etc."

Oh wow that reads quite a bit differently than "Mexicans are rapists" now doesn't it??

Now expand on the speech some more and realize he was talking specifically about illegal migrants.

Is it xenophobic?? Sure.

Is it nationalistic? 100%....

Is it racist? No.

Because specifically pointing out one of the very few black faces at that rally with the words "MY African American" couldn't possibly have any racial overtones attached to them.

They could, but if you listen to DJT at all you realize everything that supports him is "my" to him.

So no, it wasn't racist of him to point out support from a black person.

Elizabeth Warren never "pretended to be an American Indian" nor did she ever "collect benefits" available to Native Americans.

Ok, now you're just in total denial of reality.

Even if that purity is only 1/1024, that's still one point higher than what's found in the guy that was bragging about "wishing I had Indian blood" in a state heavily populated with Native Americans.

So? You're living proof of his jab at people who look at things through the lens of race.

He's making fun of intersectional leftist.....not claiming he's better than native Americans because he's white.

One doesn't need to pull words apart to hear the dog whistles when he's spitting out things like "MY Hispanics" and attacking an American-born, raised, and educated judge by singularly and specifically questioning his judicial prudence based on him being of Mexican descent.
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If it's a 'dog whistle' it's probably imagined.

He was once again, struggling for a legal defense, not claiming he's superior to other white people because he's white.

Like it or not there is a difference between being an asshole and being a racist.

I'll finish the rest up later.

 

[BotanyBoy]

Here's three, Take your best shot.

"He mentioned the manufacturing jobs we lost in New Mexico under “Obama” a number of times and how he had brought our manufacturing jobs back, plus much more since he’s been President. Manufacturing? In New Mexico?"

Maybe? IDK...don't really care.

"I believe he really lost the enthusiasm of the crowd however when he boasted over and over about being more “elite than the elite,” having more and bigger houses than the “so-called elite in Washington,” having more money, having gone to better schools than they, and bragging about not being afraid of “them.” "

So this guy doesn't like Trump....sure.

"He mentioned how well he did in Michigan: a lot. Michigan? At a rally in New Mexico? Isn’t that where Flint is located and so many auto plants have been closing since his election?"

Flint the Democrat run shit hole?? Yea thats in Michigan.

Auto plants have been closing since the 90's, that hasn't got shit to do with Trump.

The New Mexico rally showed that even his most ardent supporters are starting to have questions about whether or not all the marbles are still in the bag.

It's not a good sign when even the cheerleaders are putting down their pom-poms because the coach is coming across as being about one crazed moment away from rushing onto the playing field naked.

Oh for sure.....but he's still better than anyone the (D)'s are going to run.

I think Tulsi could take him, she polls really well with moderates/liberals and even conservatives, that would KILL Trump.

But she's practically a Nazi according to the radical left so...not happening, they're going to run a socialist and alienate moderates and liberals into either staying home or voting for Trump.

 

[JKendallDane]

Originally Posted by JKendallDane: Let's go to video tape of 45 after his golden escalator ride the summer of 2015: "The Mexican Government is forcing their most unwanted people into the United States. They are, in many cases, criminals, drug dealers, rapists, etc."
Oh wow that reads quite a bit differently than "Mexicans are rapists" now doesn't it??

Now expand on the speech some more and realize he was talking specifically about illegal migrants.

Is it xenophobic?? Sure.

Is it nationalistic? 100%....

Is it racist? No.

You seem to be mistaken about me speaking only about racism. I'm not. But I do include racism, xenophobia, over-the-top nationalism, homophobia, etc all pretty much into the same "unacceptable" category. There are specific dog whistles for all those.

Originally Posted by JKendallDane: Because specifically pointing out one of the very few black faces at that rally with the words "MY African American" couldn't possibly have any racial overtones attached to them.

They could, but if you listen to DJT at all you realize everything that supports him is "my" to him.

So no, it wasn't racist of him to point out support from a black person.

How about I just let you have that as a "gimme" if you will also admit that was really a very POOR choice of words that might be seen as racist by any number of reasonable people?

Originally Posted by JKendallDane: Elizabeth Warren never "pretended to be an American Indian" nor did she ever "collect benefits" available to Native Americans.

Ok, now you're just in total denial of reality.

And you'll be providing citations for proving she indeed DID do those two things in your next post I presume?

Originally Posted by JKendallDane: Even if that purity is only 1/1024, that's still one point higher than what's found in the guy that was bragging about "wishing I had Indian blood" in a state heavily populated with Native Americans.


So? You're living proof of his jab at people who look at things through the lens of race.

He's making fun of intersectional leftist.....not claiming he's better than native Americans because he's white.

Again...it's not "racism" I'm speaking of, but 45's ongoing foot-in-mouth problem of saying things that come across as wrong and very poorly chosen. Had Obama or Hillary ever used the same terminology in a speech in New Mexico, I'd raise my eyebrows and bitch about them doing it too.

The designation "Native American" came into usage more than 50 years ago, and "Indian" has become a term that should be relegated to the history books because...much like "colored people" ...there is a certain negative connotation attached to it.

Plus, as I already mentioned, there was both a audible and a visual reaction from his own crowd when he dropped that gem, and neither of them were good. What *I* think isn't important. What people at his rallies think is critical to him.

Originally Posted by JKendallDane: One doesn't need to pull words apart to hear the dog whistles when he's spitting out things like "MY Hispanics" and attacking an American-born, raised, and educated judge by singularly and specifically questioning his judicial prudence based on him being of Mexican descent.
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If it's a 'dog whistle' it's probably imagined.

He was once again, struggling for a legal defense, not claiming he's superior to other white people because he's white.

Like it or not there is a difference between being an asshole and being a racist.

Well, I'll agree to agree with some of that. The problem is that 45 "being an asshole" in choice of words, often comes across as winking at racists and using various dog whistles any time he thinks he can get away with it.

Just to be clear, I ascribe to the formal definition of "dog whistle" which is:

~A high-pitched whistle used to train dogs, typically having a sound inaudible to humans.

~A subtly aimed political message which is intended for, and can only be understood by, a particular demographic group. Dog-whistle issues such as immigration and crime’

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[JKendallDane]

Originally Posted by JKendallDane
Here's three, Take your best shot.

"He mentioned the manufacturing jobs we lost in New Mexico under “Obama” a number of times and how he had brought our manufacturing jobs back, plus much more since he’s been President. Manufacturing? In New Mexico?"

Maybe? IDK...don't really care.

So 45 babbling about non-existent manufacturing jobs in the state he's ego rallying in and bragging about even more non-existent success in Michigan which means pretty much diddly-squat to the people he's speaking to, is a total "<shrug> So what?" position for you? Are you not seeing how that kind of stuff can turn off supporters completely at worst or cause them to start questioning continuing that support at best?

Originally Posted by JKendallDane: "I believe he really lost the enthusiasm of the crowd however when he boasted over and over about being more “elite than the elite,” having more and bigger houses than the “so-called elite in Washington,” having more money, having gone to better schools than they, and bragging about not being afraid of “them.” "

So this guy doesn't like Trump....sure.

It's not about whether the article creator liked 45 or not. It's his observations of the crowd reactions and the words and actions of 45 that precipitated those reactions.

Originally Posted by JKendallDane: "He mentioned how well he did in Michigan: a lot. Michigan? At a rally in New Mexico? Isn’t that where Flint is located and so many auto plants have been closing since his election?"

Flint the Democrat run shit hole?? Yea thats in Michigan.

Auto plants have been closing since the 90's, that hasn't got shit to do with Trump.

And the point was the reaction of the crowd was "Why the fuck is he blathering on and on and on about Michigan at a rally in New Mexico? That ain't got shit to do with us."

Originally Posted by JKendallDane: "The New Mexico rally showed that even his most ardent supporters are starting to have questions about whether or not all the marbles are still in the bag.

It's not a good sign when even the cheerleaders are putting down their pom-poms because the coach is coming across as being about one crazed moment away from rushing onto the playing field naked."

Oh for sure.....but he's still better than anyone the (D)'s are going to run.

Oh please do keep believing 2020 is already a slam-dunk for Donnie-T. Everyone deserves a fantasy or two.

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[BotanyBoy]

You seem to be mistaken about me speaking only about racism. I'm not.

Again...it's not "racism" I'm speaking of

That's what the whole discussion has been about, if you want to abandon that accusation and go for something else you're suppose to do it before hand.

Well, I'll agree to agree with some of that. The problem is that 45 "being an asshole" in choice of words, often comes across as winking at racists

I thought we weren't talking about racism and here you are going right back to it.

He's not 'winking' at racist or blowing a "dog whistle"......those are excuses for people who are desperate to label him a racist but can't actually point to any racism.

But I do include racism, xenophobia, over-the-top nationalism, homophobia, etc all pretty much into the same "unacceptable" category.

What's wrong with nationalism??

 

[BotanyBoy]

So 45 babbling about non-existent manufacturing jobs in the state he's ego rallying in and bragging about even more non-existent success in Michigan which means pretty much diddly-squat to the people he's speaking to, is a total "<shrug> So what?" position for you?

100%

Are you not seeing how that kind of stuff can turn off supporters completely at worst or cause them to start questioning continuing that support at best?

Sure, don't care....that's a Trump problem not a me problem.

It's not about whether the article creator liked 45 or not.

I'll remember that when Breitbart publishes some scathing article about a (D) like Omar or Tlaib....it's not about whether or not they like her.

Oh please do keep believing 2020 is already a slam-dunk for Donnie-T. Everyone deserves a fantasy or two.

I don't think it's a slam-dunk....I think the (D)'s could still run Gabbard and win.

Biden....maaaaaybe...he's fuckin' weak as shit.

(D)'s run any of the other socialist loons? (D)'s lose 2-5 more states and Trump wins. The promise of socialism and a Soviet States of America isn't how (D)'s win OH and PA back, that's how they lose NV, VA, NM and MN.