Emotions The Most Useless Part of Us
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Shila said:
Logic with emotion is flawed, emotions cause people to do stupid things and die in emergencies. Sure we wee a lot of of he/she went in and risked thier life to save the cat, but how many deaths have been caused my emotionalism running in and saving the cat? How would I feel if I couldn't feel, I wouldn't what a horrible loss...not.
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Patryn said:
Oops someone just shit thier face again, would you like a towel to clean that up. oh sorry, that is your face.
Thank you and good night.
See I can be just as much a bastard asshole as you can be a bitch, now when you going to take your own advice and not read my posts if you dont like what I have to say?
I'm sorry for saying this, but I can't keep it to myself anymore....
You know how you get mental images of the people that post on this board? Sometimes you get one that's just so disturbing that you just absolutely have to block it out of your mind to keep your sanity. I'm sure everyone knows what I mean by that....
Anyways, pretty much from the first time I read a post from our buddy bobtoad here, I just had the most hideous mental image pop into my head. I did my best to shake it off, but every time the little bastard posts something like this, it just pops back into my head. I just can't stand it anymore. I've decided the only way I can hope to live with this is if I share it with everyone. I hope you'll all forgive me for putting you thru this, but I just can't help it.
It was when he mentioned Spock in his original post that triggered the nightmare again...
Anyways, I see the little bugger sitting there in front of his computer with a mild case of acne, greasy hair parted on the side, and those dark, thick rimmed, prototypical geek boy glasses with the piece of tape in the middle. As he sits there occasionally digging a finger deep inside either nostril, he's wearing Spock ears, and (this is the part that drives me nuts, btw) an old pair of Superman Underoos... A couple sizes too small cause he's had them since he was maybe 14 (and how sad is that?), ummm... they're dirty and they don't smell very nice cause he's afraid if he washes them again they're going to fall apart.
*shudders*
I'm sorry to inflict that image on everyone. I don't expect it to be entirely accurate, but it was important for me to exorcise that particular personal demon. You have no idea how much better I feel already.
You know how you get mental images of the people that post on this board? Sometimes you get one that's just so disturbing that you just absolutely have to block it out of your mind to keep your sanity. I'm sure everyone knows what I mean by that....
Anyways, pretty much from the first time I read a post from our buddy bobtoad here, I just had the most hideous mental image pop into my head. I did my best to shake it off, but every time the little bastard posts something like this, it just pops back into my head. I just can't stand it anymore. I've decided the only way I can hope to live with this is if I share it with everyone. I hope you'll all forgive me for putting you thru this, but I just can't help it.
It was when he mentioned Spock in his original post that triggered the nightmare again...
Anyways, I see the little bugger sitting there in front of his computer with a mild case of acne, greasy hair parted on the side, and those dark, thick rimmed, prototypical geek boy glasses with the piece of tape in the middle. As he sits there occasionally digging a finger deep inside either nostril, he's wearing Spock ears, and (this is the part that drives me nuts, btw) an old pair of Superman Underoos... A couple sizes too small cause he's had them since he was maybe 14 (and how sad is that?), ummm... they're dirty and they don't smell very nice cause he's afraid if he washes them again they're going to fall apart.
*shudders*
I'm sorry to inflict that image on everyone. I don't expect it to be entirely accurate, but it was important for me to exorcise that particular personal demon. You have no idea how much better I feel already.
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This is even scarier than Lasher's image...
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SexyRH: jeez, that's just plain mean. I know the guy's wallowing in self-pity and not listening to reason, but he's obviously hurting.
Think about if that was you for a sec...
[Edited by Oliver Clozoff on 09-25-2000 at 10:52 PM]
Think about if that was you for a sec...
[Edited by Oliver Clozoff on 09-25-2000 at 10:52 PM]
Oliver Clozoff said:
*Thinking*
*Shuddering*
*Loading Gun*...
Anyways... plain mean is the little cry baby subjecting us to his latest crisis every 12 hrs. I'm beginning to think that him and Flamingo are related somehow...
HEY! Maybe we could have a contest, and everyone could vote for their favorite Martyr...
(Actually I just wanted to post something to help get this thread to the next page so I don't have to wait for the stupid fucking pic to load everytime I open this thread)
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Nogard said:
Motards,
This is for you.
http://www.link-o-rama.com/greenguy/graphics/greenguy.gif
By the way, you did a great job of following your own advice. Practice before you preach.
[Edited by bobtoad777 on 09-25-2000 at 10:59 PM]
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Bobtoad, will you go get help if we put "please" in the request? This is a porn site bb. We can't help you here if your problem isn't as simple as how to fit item A in slot B and make it feel good. And your problem is way beyond that. Go see a doc. If we're all wrong and the doc looks at you and says you're fine, so what? Come back to the board and jam it down our throats that we were wrong. But if you go and you get the help that you need, we won't say "we told you so." Promise.
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Lasher said:
Ordinarily, I'd agree with you, but the more I see of his postings, the more I'm inclined to think he has some serious pathology. And believe me... I've seen psychopathology.
I'm all for letting someone have it if they can handle it, but this would be me making fun of one of the psych-ward patients we care for.
Killermuffin is 100% right... he's presenting a classical picture of depression. And one of the classic signs of depressed people is that they can be annoying as hell.
Go pick on someone your own size.
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Hey bobtoad, a Vulcan Man of the cloth is highly illogical.
Emotion is good. Laughter is essential to health, please go to the "How To" board and look up "Tree Sex" it's as good as it gets around here.
No need to take this shit anymore.
Emotion is good. Laughter is essential to health, please go to the "How To" board and look up "Tree Sex" it's as good as it gets around here.
No need to take this shit anymore.
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Bobtoad, emotions are a product of evolutionary fitness. They would not exist unless they served a purpose.
Love: The mothering instinct kicked up a notch. Love as we know it is mostly a mammalian phenomenon, animals such as spiders, snakes, fish and amphibians do not have an 'infantile' stage in which they are totally reliant on another creature. However, birds and mammals do so nature needed someone to take care of them; the mother was born.
Now, the longer is takes for any animal to reach adulthood the stronger that instinct had to be. And really, can you think of any thing more in need of a mother than a human child? Our closet relatives on Darwin's family tree are primates; at eight years of age, a chimp or gorilla is a sexually mature adult able to have children. At eight years of age, human children are still running into mama's room at 2am complaining about the desperate need to yak.
Mr. Spock wasn't a mother, there is no reason for a lioness to devote a year of her life to feeding and taking care of a cub, it's a waste of time. There's even less reason for a woman to devote eighteen years of her life caring for, housing, feeding, and cleaning after a kid - unless she totally loved the little thing. If her love is strong, enough she'll raise not one but a whole slew of them; like Freud told me in a dream, 'Motherhood is a form of masochism.'
Unfortunately, it's nigh impossible to raise a child by yourself, no matter what the power of the mothering instinct. So, what to do? Why, recruit the father, of course. He has a high stake in the child's survival and as a human infant is so helpless, having someone else around to protect it is almost necessity...for a while at least. Love was once again summoned to create the 'ties that bind' - for the most logical of reasons, to keep the species alive.
I won't even go into loves role in the form of grandparents, brotherly love, comradeship even...
The fact that 'community' itself, the complex community that required communication, communication that required even more advanced brains - the advanced brain that allowed Mr. Spock to rationally dismiss emotions - was based on the extended family, which was based around the mother/infant relationship, which required as its bond.. (yes, you guessed it) love.
Hmmmmm. I'll write a few paragraphs on the importance of those other emotions sometime later if this thread doesn't plunge.
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Love: The mothering instinct kicked up a notch. Love as we know it is mostly a mammalian phenomenon, animals such as spiders, snakes, fish and amphibians do not have an 'infantile' stage in which they are totally reliant on another creature. However, birds and mammals do so nature needed someone to take care of them; the mother was born.
Now, the longer is takes for any animal to reach adulthood the stronger that instinct had to be. And really, can you think of any thing more in need of a mother than a human child? Our closet relatives on Darwin's family tree are primates; at eight years of age, a chimp or gorilla is a sexually mature adult able to have children. At eight years of age, human children are still running into mama's room at 2am complaining about the desperate need to yak.
Mr. Spock wasn't a mother, there is no reason for a lioness to devote a year of her life to feeding and taking care of a cub, it's a waste of time. There's even less reason for a woman to devote eighteen years of her life caring for, housing, feeding, and cleaning after a kid - unless she totally loved the little thing. If her love is strong, enough she'll raise not one but a whole slew of them; like Freud told me in a dream, 'Motherhood is a form of masochism.'
Unfortunately, it's nigh impossible to raise a child by yourself, no matter what the power of the mothering instinct. So, what to do? Why, recruit the father, of course. He has a high stake in the child's survival and as a human infant is so helpless, having someone else around to protect it is almost necessity...for a while at least. Love was once again summoned to create the 'ties that bind' - for the most logical of reasons, to keep the species alive.
I won't even go into loves role in the form of grandparents, brotherly love, comradeship even...
The fact that 'community' itself, the complex community that required communication, communication that required even more advanced brains - the advanced brain that allowed Mr. Spock to rationally dismiss emotions - was based on the extended family, which was based around the mother/infant relationship, which required as its bond.. (yes, you guessed it) love.
Hmmmmm. I'll write a few paragraphs on the importance of those other emotions sometime later if this thread doesn't plunge.
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Never,
Thank you never, one of the few repsonses to this thread that was thought out and articulate enough, not to use fuck you or go to hell or some equally thoughtless, emotional babble.
I would be interested in your further paragraphs of postulations on other emotions. I would be interested in how you purpose one live with these emotions with out 24/7 pain as a result? I know from your Love answer that you must have a solution to the delemia. Thank you for taking time to think out a response.
Yours sincerely,
Todd Forgrave
Thank you never, one of the few repsonses to this thread that was thought out and articulate enough, not to use fuck you or go to hell or some equally thoughtless, emotional babble.
I would be interested in your further paragraphs of postulations on other emotions. I would be interested in how you purpose one live with these emotions with out 24/7 pain as a result? I know from your Love answer that you must have a solution to the delemia. Thank you for taking time to think out a response.
Yours sincerely,
Todd Forgrave
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Never, dear, you know im not one to bitch about specific posts but here I go. I think you need to go to the library and look up some facts. There are plenty of women who have children with absolutely no help at all. I raised snickerdoodle completely bymyself until a few months ago when my parents decided to get reinvolved in my life. Snickerdoodle's father is nowhere to be found. My parents only wanted to be involved when it was good for them or to make themselves look good at family functions. Alot of women experience situations like mine so I would appreciate if you would either go look up some facts or get some experience in raising a child completely alone before you go and make posts in which you have no right to make.
Alluding back to the first post, some of the points are accurate. However I disagree with the conclusive statement. Depending on the goals of the individual, (and there really is only one, but I'm not going into that here) strong emotions can serve to further the goal because they are manufactured as a response to the present situation.
Never, I have to disagree with you here. The L word and maternal instinct are different.
Never, I have to disagree with you here. The L word and maternal instinct are different.
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I apologize for offending you. I apologize for behaving badly. I apologize for being bitchy and snippy.
You will not be exposed to it again.
Muff
You will not be exposed to it again.
Muff
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Dr. Muffin: Phsycologist to the sane
Who did you offend? when were you bitchy and snippy? when were we exposed to 'it'? is 'it' an STD? is there a cure for 'it'? Your leaving me with to many unanswered questions.
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Who did you offend? when were you bitchy and snippy? when were we exposed to 'it'? is 'it' an STD? is there a cure for 'it'? Your leaving me with to many unanswered questions.
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Ahhh, will no one rise to the occasion and defend emotions? True, emotions tend to flourish without any defense whatsoever but at least I should finish what I started to do...
But first.
Naked Hunny, while I would point out that I have every 'right' to post my statement that's a nothing more than a tangent.
"There are plenty of women who have children with absolutely no help at all. I raised snickerdoodle completely bymyself until a few months ago when my parents decided to get reinvolved in my life."
You raised your child completely by yourself? You provided for all your child's home and nourishment I'll assume - that means you have a job. It might be possible that you are one of the lucky few who are allowed to take your child to work but most woman are not, they have to rely on a babysitter or daycare - other people. Then again perhaps you work from home - a wonderful situation but one that very few women have been able to procure for themselves.
Now a day it's even harder to raise a child by yourself. What happed when your child gets sick? Do you know how to diagnose and treat your child's illness? When your child gets a bit older, can you successfully teach and train your child in the carrier of their choice?
On the other hand, do you do what most people do and take your children to a doctor when they become ill? Are you planning on home schooling or will you let your child attend public school?
Teachers, doctors, and babysitters are all other people, if you can raise your child without them I will acknowledge that I was wrong and revise my total argument about the origins of love and its usefulness.
Aranian: "Never, I have to disagree with you here. The L word and maternal instinct are different."
Aranian, I'm a scientist at heart and to a real scientist even the theory of gravity is just that; a theory.
Given what I have been taught and the many, many different theories on love and maternal instinct I chose this one because it answers simply and completely and is based on what I know of evolutionary fitness.
That does not make it the right answer or the only answer - I would like to hear your thoughts on the subject as well if you wish to share them.
Hmmm, well, that was fun. I'll browse the rest of the board and then finish my tirade on the usefulness of emotions.
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Abort, Fail, Retry?
But first.
Naked Hunny, while I would point out that I have every 'right' to post my statement that's a nothing more than a tangent.
"There are plenty of women who have children with absolutely no help at all. I raised snickerdoodle completely bymyself until a few months ago when my parents decided to get reinvolved in my life."
You raised your child completely by yourself? You provided for all your child's home and nourishment I'll assume - that means you have a job. It might be possible that you are one of the lucky few who are allowed to take your child to work but most woman are not, they have to rely on a babysitter or daycare - other people. Then again perhaps you work from home - a wonderful situation but one that very few women have been able to procure for themselves.
Now a day it's even harder to raise a child by yourself. What happed when your child gets sick? Do you know how to diagnose and treat your child's illness? When your child gets a bit older, can you successfully teach and train your child in the carrier of their choice?
On the other hand, do you do what most people do and take your children to a doctor when they become ill? Are you planning on home schooling or will you let your child attend public school?
Teachers, doctors, and babysitters are all other people, if you can raise your child without them I will acknowledge that I was wrong and revise my total argument about the origins of love and its usefulness.
Aranian: "Never, I have to disagree with you here. The L word and maternal instinct are different."
Aranian, I'm a scientist at heart and to a real scientist even the theory of gravity is just that; a theory.
Given what I have been taught and the many, many different theories on love and maternal instinct I chose this one because it answers simply and completely and is based on what I know of evolutionary fitness.
That does not make it the right answer or the only answer - I would like to hear your thoughts on the subject as well if you wish to share them.
Hmmm, well, that was fun. I'll browse the rest of the board and then finish my tirade on the usefulness of emotions.
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Never in your original post you were not refering to doctors and teachers but to family. I dont see the doctors and teachers giving my child the love that my child needs just the care that she needs and the education she will need.
Yes my child sees doctors why because after having RSV several times in the past year she has developed asthma. I rely on the doctors to keep my daughter alive and breathing not to love and cherish her like I do
Yes my child sees doctors why because after having RSV several times in the past year she has developed asthma. I rely on the doctors to keep my daughter alive and breathing not to love and cherish her like I do
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