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Time out everyone....go to a neutral corner and count to ten
As far as the "T" goes it mainly means "transgendered' which is an umbrella term ranging from those who simply crossdress to those with more serious issues, wanting to go the full gamut and have SRS or at the very least HRT.
Not ALL people in this category are gay or bi, as the following 2 excerpts I will add will show you. Some men (I can't speak on belhalf of the f to m crossdressers or "T" people) who crossdress do so because they feel like a woman trapped in a man's body but still would like to have a relatoinship with other women. In essence they feel as if they are a lesbian. Others may wish to have a relationship with other "girls" like themselves so long as they look passable and feminine which also may give them a pseudo "lesbian' encounter. Then ther are those that wish to assume/adopt a fem role but do not wish to have any surgical medical, or therapeutic reconstruction so that they can have a relationship with men, period! These are the gay's. There are also those that , after their final surgery and assuming a total fem role, desire to have a relationship with a man. These can be classified as hetrosexual because they are now a woman both physically and psychologically.
And now without any further ado
here's something I found on the net about this topic
Glossary of Transgender Terms
By Warren J. Blumenfeld
Reprinted with permission.
Though sometimes connected and overlapping, the following categories of sexual and gender identity are often distinct and unique. It must be emphasized, that unanimity of opinion does not exist on either the definitions of these terms, or even on which terms are essential to include.
AFFECTIONAL ORIENTATION: This is determined by whom we feel comfortable "hanging out with, whom we are close to in a primarily non-erotic way. Most people seem to have a "Bi-affectional orientation"with males and females, though as noted below, some theorize that, in actuality, there are more than simply two sexes.
BIOLOGICAL (sometimes referred to as CHROMOSOMAL) SEX: This can be considered as our "packaging and is determined by our chromosomes (XX for females, XY for males); our hormones (estrogen and progesterone for females, testosterone for males); and our internal and external genitalia (vulva, clitoris, vagina for females, penis and testicles for males). About 4% of the population can be defined as "intersexuals born with biological aspects of both sexes to varying degrees. Therefore, in actuality, there are more than two sexes.
CORE GENDER IDENTITY (or simply, GENDER IDENTITY): This is the individual,s innermost concept of self as "male or "female"what we perceive and call ourselves. Though the formation of gender identity is a complex process, it is thought that individuals develop this generally between the ages of 18 months and 3 years, though many current theories posit that this begins to be formed before birth. Most people develop a (core) gender identity aligning with their biological sex. For some, however, their gender identity is different from their biological sex.
CROSS-DRESSER (CD): Someone who on occasion wears what is currently considered the clothes of the other sex(es) to relieve gender discomfort. Cross-dressers want to appear as "convincing as possible as their other selves. A large subset of this group are men who enjoy dressing as women, and have otherwise ordinary marriages with wives who are not transgendered. Many say this term is preferable to transvestite, which means the same thing.
CROSS-LIVING: Living full-time in the preferred gender image, [other] than one,s assigned sex at birth, [sometimes] in preparation for a sex-change operation, [sometimes not].
DIRECTION: Which way one is crossing the gender line. MTF (see below) is one direction, FTM (see below) is [another].
DRAB: Means DRessed As Boy, referring to [what is currently considered as male] clothes or in [male,s] clothes, used mainly by gender benders and cross-dressers of both directions. Not used as frequently as the word drag.
DRAG: Originally used (1) in Shakespeare,s Globe Theater to mean DRessed As Girl, referring to male actors (there were no actresses) playing female roles. Now (2) mainly used by gender benders and cross-dressers of both directions to mean women,s clothes or in women,s clothes. Also (3) refers to any specialized type of clothing as in, "my father walked in in full military drag.
DRAG QUEEN: (1) A gay man who from time to time wears women,s clothes, generally without attempting to be "convincing. (2) Some people who are more accurately referred to as MTF cross-dressers or transsexuals [who] are sometimes called drag queens.
DRAG KING: Generally refers to either a woman or gay woman who dresses and assumes the identity of a male.
ESTROGEN: The "female sex hormone. Actually, both [males] and [females] have estrogen in their systems, [but] women have a great deal more of it. Estrogen can be administered in both pill and injection form.
FORMER TRANSSEXUAL: Some say that (1) once a transsexual has completed surgery, they are no longer transsexuals. (Contrast this with definition 2 of transsexual"see below.) A compromise view might be that a former transsexual is (2) one who has completed surgery, and no longer wants anything t do with the transsexual community.
FTM: (1) Female-To-Male [cross-dresser or transsexual]. (It is more [acceptable] to use the abbreviations rather than the complete phrase, except to explain it to someone who doesn't,t know what FTM stands for.) Also abbreviated as F2M, [or FtM]. FTM is also (2) the name of a group that is for FTM TS,s and TV,s.
GENDER BENDER: Anyone crossing the gender line who does not care about appearing "convincing. Example: a man wearing a dress, who looks like a man wearing a dress, and doesn't,t care if he does look like a man wearing a dress. Drag queens are the major group within this category.
GENDER COMMUNITY: The [transgender] community of all cross-dressers, transsexuals, and gender benders, and anywhere they meet.
GENDER DISCOMFORT: Like gender dysphoria (see below), but not quite that [severe]. Occasional cross-dressing often provides sufficient relief.
GENDER DYSPHORIA: Literally, it is being unhappy with the gender you are (physically anatomically, prior to changing anything). Full-blown gender dysphoria syndrome is the same as transsexualism.
GENDER IMAGE: The way one presents oneself to the world, as either male or female.
GENDER ROLE (sometimes called SEX ROLE): This is the set of socially-defined roles and behaviors assigned to females and males. This can vary from culture to culture. Our society recognizes basically two distinct gender roles. One is the masculine: having the qualities or characteristics attributed to males. The other is the feminine: having the qualities or characteristics attributed to females. (A third gender role, rarely, though possibly increasingly, condoned in our society, is androgyny combining assumed male (andro) and female (gyne) qualities.) Some people step out of their socially-assigned gender roles or "crossdress (wear the clothing traditionally reserved for the other sex). Though not universal or even precise, some of the terms used to identify these individuals include "transvestites (often heterosexual males and females who crossdress), "Drag Queens (male homosexuals who crossdress), "Drag Kings (female homosexuals who crossdress).
IN TRANSITION: (1) In the process of [sexual] transition (see below). (2) A synonym for pre-op (see below).
INTERSEX (or INTERSEXUAL): [Persons] born with the full or partial sex organs of [male and female], or with underdeveloped or ambiguous sex organs. About 4% of all births are intersex to some degree. (This word replaces the politically incorrect hermaphrodite.)
MTF: Male-To-Female, [cross-dresser or transsexuals]. (It is more [acceptable] to use the abbreviations rather than the complete phrase, except to explain it to someone who doesn't,t know what MTF stands for.) Also abbreviated as M2F, [or MtF].
NEW MAN: (1) Post-operative FTM transsexual. Also sometimes used to mean (2) and FTM transsexual who is well along in the transition process.
NEW WOMAN: (1) Post-operative MTF transsexual. First used in a 1952 newspaper article in reference to Christine Jorgensen. Also sometimes used to mean (2) an MTF transsexual who is well along in the transition process.
NON-OP: Same as nonsurgical transsexual (see below).
NONSURGICAL TRANSSEXUAL: Transsexuals who seek sex reassignment through hormones and who cross-live, but stop just short of surgery. Some (1) have concerns about major surgery, which is not always successful. Others (2) have been unable to obtain the money necessary and have essentially given up on this final step (are "in limbo). Yet others (3) feel they are complete without surgery and are the same as definition 1 of transgender (see below). Others still (4) cannot have surgery due to special health problems.
PASS: [This] means to be in [one,s] preferred gender image, and to be able to do so convincingly.
PASSING WOMAN: (1) Chiefly used in the historical sense to refer to a non-transgendered woman living as a man in order to have access to careers and lifestyles only available to men at that time. (2) Some historical figures who would today be more accurately called FTM transsexuals or transsexual men are sometimes referred as passing women.
POST-OP: Transsexuals who have had sex-change operation(s), and now have the physical anatomy they desire.
PRE-OP: Transsexuals who have not yet had their sex-change [reassignment] operation(s), but who are working towards it.
SEX-REASSIGNMENT SURGERY (SRS): Sex-change operation.
SEXUAL (or EROTIC) ORIENTATION: This is determined by whom we are sexually (or erotically) attracted"our sexual/erotic drives, desires, fantasies. Categories of sexual orientation include homosexuals"gay, lesbian"attracted to some members of the same sex; bisexuals, attracted to some members of both sexes to varying degrees; heterosexuals, attracted to some members of the other sex; and asexuals, attracted to neither sex. Some sexuality researchers suggest that pederasts (adults sexually/erotically attracted to children) might be considered a separate sexual orientation. Sexual orientation is believed to be influenced by a variety of factors including genetics and hormones, as well as unknown environmental factors. Though the origins of sexual orientation are not completely understood, it is generally believed to be established during early childhood, usually before the age of five.
SEXUAL BEHAVIOR: This is what we do sexually and with whom. Though we are not certain what influences determine a person,s primary sexual attractions (sexual orientation), our culture can heavily influence peoples, actions and sexual behaviors. For example, one may have a "homosexual orientation, but due to overriding condemnations against same-sex sexual expression, may "pass by having sex only with people of the other sex. Sexuality researcher Alfred C. Kinsey and his colleagues devised a seven-point scale to chart the full spectrum of human sexual behavior, with "0 representing those whose histories are exclusively heterosexual, and "6 for those who are exclusively homosexual in behavior. Others were placed along the scale depending on the percentage of heterosexual (other sex) or homosexual (same sex) sexual expression in relation to overall behavior. Kinsey,s findings and other studies also suggest that sexuality is indeed more fluid and complex than once believed.
SEXUAL IDENTITY: This is what we call ourselves. Such labels include "lesbian, "gay, "bisexual, "bi, "queer, "questioning, "undecided, "undetermined, "heterosexual, "straight, "asexual, and others. Sexual identity evolves through a multi-stage developmental process that has been charted by a number of researchers. This progression varies in intensity and duration depending on the individual. Our sexual behavior and how we define ourselves (our identity) can be chosen. Though some people claim their sexual orientation is also a choice, for others, this does not seem to be the case.
TESTOSTERONE: The "male sex hormone. Actually, males and females, [as well as intersexuals] have testosterone in their systems, [though] males just have a great deal more of it. Some testosterone is necessary to have a sex drive. Since it is destroyed by stomach acid [when taken in pill form], most supplemental testosterone is delivered via injections.
T-FRIENDLY: Any organization or institution that is accepting of transgendered peoples and their needs. Contrast with transphobic (see below).
TRANSGENDER (TG): Originally, this word meant (1) what are also known as full-time cross-dressers or nonsurgical transsexuals, people who live and work in the [other] (of their physical anatomical) [sex], continuously and for always. Now it also means (2) the group of all people who are inclined to cross the gender line, including transsexuals, cross-dressers, and gender benders together. This is the main way the word is used today, and is referred to as the "umbrella definition as it covers everyone. A few [people] use the word transgender as (3) a synonym for transsexual.
TRANSGENDERIST: Same as definition 1 of transgender (see above). Those who mean definition 1 of transgender now tend to use transgenderist to avoid confusion.
TRANSITION: The process of changing sex, including hormones, cross-living (see above), and finally surgery. A practical minimum for this process is about two years, but usually it takes longer, sometimes much longer.
TRANSPHOBIA/TRANSPHOBIC: The fear and hatred of cross-dressers, transsexuals, and gender benders and what they do [or are feared to do], and everything that results from this, from disrespect, to denial of rights and needs, to violence. Though some have defined this as an "irrational fear and hatred, in actuality, from the time most of us are young, people and institutions (parents/guardians, peers, teachers, clergy, the media, etc.) have taught us to conform to societal notions of "proper gender behavior, and to hold in contempt those who challenge or transgress these standards. Transphobia is indeed a form of oppression.
TRANSSEXUAL (TS): Anyone who (1) wants to have, (2) has had, or (3) should have a sex-change operation. (The third definition is for those in denial.) This word also includes (4) nonsurgical transsexuals (see above). TS,s want to appear "convincing as their new selves.
TRANSSEXUAL FEMALE/WOMAN: An MTF TS. The medical literature tends to use the extremely demeaning term male transsexual to mean the same thing. Note that one can usually tell the preferred form is in use when the gender word comes after the "T word.
TRANSSEXUAL MALE/MAN: An FTM TS. The medical literature tends to use the extremely demeaning term female transsexual to mean the same thing. Note that one can usually tell the preferred form is in use when the gender word comes after the "T word.
TRANSVESTITE (TV): Same as cross-dresser (see above). Most [people] feel that cross-dresser is the preferred term.
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As far as the "T" goes it mainly means "transgendered' which is an umbrella term ranging from those who simply crossdress to those with more serious issues, wanting to go the full gamut and have SRS or at the very least HRT.
Not ALL people in this category are gay or bi, as the following 2 excerpts I will add will show you. Some men (I can't speak on belhalf of the f to m crossdressers or "T" people) who crossdress do so because they feel like a woman trapped in a man's body but still would like to have a relatoinship with other women. In essence they feel as if they are a lesbian. Others may wish to have a relationship with other "girls" like themselves so long as they look passable and feminine which also may give them a pseudo "lesbian' encounter. Then ther are those that wish to assume/adopt a fem role but do not wish to have any surgical medical, or therapeutic reconstruction so that they can have a relationship with men, period! These are the gay's. There are also those that , after their final surgery and assuming a total fem role, desire to have a relationship with a man. These can be classified as hetrosexual because they are now a woman both physically and psychologically.
And now without any further ado
here's something I found on the net about this topic
Glossary of Transgender Terms
By Warren J. Blumenfeld
Reprinted with permission.
Though sometimes connected and overlapping, the following categories of sexual and gender identity are often distinct and unique. It must be emphasized, that unanimity of opinion does not exist on either the definitions of these terms, or even on which terms are essential to include.
AFFECTIONAL ORIENTATION: This is determined by whom we feel comfortable "hanging out with, whom we are close to in a primarily non-erotic way. Most people seem to have a "Bi-affectional orientation"with males and females, though as noted below, some theorize that, in actuality, there are more than simply two sexes.
BIOLOGICAL (sometimes referred to as CHROMOSOMAL) SEX: This can be considered as our "packaging and is determined by our chromosomes (XX for females, XY for males); our hormones (estrogen and progesterone for females, testosterone for males); and our internal and external genitalia (vulva, clitoris, vagina for females, penis and testicles for males). About 4% of the population can be defined as "intersexuals born with biological aspects of both sexes to varying degrees. Therefore, in actuality, there are more than two sexes.
CORE GENDER IDENTITY (or simply, GENDER IDENTITY): This is the individual,s innermost concept of self as "male or "female"what we perceive and call ourselves. Though the formation of gender identity is a complex process, it is thought that individuals develop this generally between the ages of 18 months and 3 years, though many current theories posit that this begins to be formed before birth. Most people develop a (core) gender identity aligning with their biological sex. For some, however, their gender identity is different from their biological sex.
CROSS-DRESSER (CD): Someone who on occasion wears what is currently considered the clothes of the other sex(es) to relieve gender discomfort. Cross-dressers want to appear as "convincing as possible as their other selves. A large subset of this group are men who enjoy dressing as women, and have otherwise ordinary marriages with wives who are not transgendered. Many say this term is preferable to transvestite, which means the same thing.
CROSS-LIVING: Living full-time in the preferred gender image, [other] than one,s assigned sex at birth, [sometimes] in preparation for a sex-change operation, [sometimes not].
DIRECTION: Which way one is crossing the gender line. MTF (see below) is one direction, FTM (see below) is [another].
DRAB: Means DRessed As Boy, referring to [what is currently considered as male] clothes or in [male,s] clothes, used mainly by gender benders and cross-dressers of both directions. Not used as frequently as the word drag.
DRAG: Originally used (1) in Shakespeare,s Globe Theater to mean DRessed As Girl, referring to male actors (there were no actresses) playing female roles. Now (2) mainly used by gender benders and cross-dressers of both directions to mean women,s clothes or in women,s clothes. Also (3) refers to any specialized type of clothing as in, "my father walked in in full military drag.
DRAG QUEEN: (1) A gay man who from time to time wears women,s clothes, generally without attempting to be "convincing. (2) Some people who are more accurately referred to as MTF cross-dressers or transsexuals [who] are sometimes called drag queens.
DRAG KING: Generally refers to either a woman or gay woman who dresses and assumes the identity of a male.
ESTROGEN: The "female sex hormone. Actually, both [males] and [females] have estrogen in their systems, [but] women have a great deal more of it. Estrogen can be administered in both pill and injection form.
FORMER TRANSSEXUAL: Some say that (1) once a transsexual has completed surgery, they are no longer transsexuals. (Contrast this with definition 2 of transsexual"see below.) A compromise view might be that a former transsexual is (2) one who has completed surgery, and no longer wants anything t do with the transsexual community.
FTM: (1) Female-To-Male [cross-dresser or transsexual]. (It is more [acceptable] to use the abbreviations rather than the complete phrase, except to explain it to someone who doesn't,t know what FTM stands for.) Also abbreviated as F2M, [or FtM]. FTM is also (2) the name of a group that is for FTM TS,s and TV,s.
GENDER BENDER: Anyone crossing the gender line who does not care about appearing "convincing. Example: a man wearing a dress, who looks like a man wearing a dress, and doesn't,t care if he does look like a man wearing a dress. Drag queens are the major group within this category.
GENDER COMMUNITY: The [transgender] community of all cross-dressers, transsexuals, and gender benders, and anywhere they meet.
GENDER DISCOMFORT: Like gender dysphoria (see below), but not quite that [severe]. Occasional cross-dressing often provides sufficient relief.
GENDER DYSPHORIA: Literally, it is being unhappy with the gender you are (physically anatomically, prior to changing anything). Full-blown gender dysphoria syndrome is the same as transsexualism.
GENDER IMAGE: The way one presents oneself to the world, as either male or female.
GENDER ROLE (sometimes called SEX ROLE): This is the set of socially-defined roles and behaviors assigned to females and males. This can vary from culture to culture. Our society recognizes basically two distinct gender roles. One is the masculine: having the qualities or characteristics attributed to males. The other is the feminine: having the qualities or characteristics attributed to females. (A third gender role, rarely, though possibly increasingly, condoned in our society, is androgyny combining assumed male (andro) and female (gyne) qualities.) Some people step out of their socially-assigned gender roles or "crossdress (wear the clothing traditionally reserved for the other sex). Though not universal or even precise, some of the terms used to identify these individuals include "transvestites (often heterosexual males and females who crossdress), "Drag Queens (male homosexuals who crossdress), "Drag Kings (female homosexuals who crossdress).
IN TRANSITION: (1) In the process of [sexual] transition (see below). (2) A synonym for pre-op (see below).
INTERSEX (or INTERSEXUAL): [Persons] born with the full or partial sex organs of [male and female], or with underdeveloped or ambiguous sex organs. About 4% of all births are intersex to some degree. (This word replaces the politically incorrect hermaphrodite.)
MTF: Male-To-Female, [cross-dresser or transsexuals]. (It is more [acceptable] to use the abbreviations rather than the complete phrase, except to explain it to someone who doesn't,t know what MTF stands for.) Also abbreviated as M2F, [or MtF].
NEW MAN: (1) Post-operative FTM transsexual. Also sometimes used to mean (2) and FTM transsexual who is well along in the transition process.
NEW WOMAN: (1) Post-operative MTF transsexual. First used in a 1952 newspaper article in reference to Christine Jorgensen. Also sometimes used to mean (2) an MTF transsexual who is well along in the transition process.
NON-OP: Same as nonsurgical transsexual (see below).
NONSURGICAL TRANSSEXUAL: Transsexuals who seek sex reassignment through hormones and who cross-live, but stop just short of surgery. Some (1) have concerns about major surgery, which is not always successful. Others (2) have been unable to obtain the money necessary and have essentially given up on this final step (are "in limbo). Yet others (3) feel they are complete without surgery and are the same as definition 1 of transgender (see below). Others still (4) cannot have surgery due to special health problems.
PASS: [This] means to be in [one,s] preferred gender image, and to be able to do so convincingly.
PASSING WOMAN: (1) Chiefly used in the historical sense to refer to a non-transgendered woman living as a man in order to have access to careers and lifestyles only available to men at that time. (2) Some historical figures who would today be more accurately called FTM transsexuals or transsexual men are sometimes referred as passing women.
POST-OP: Transsexuals who have had sex-change operation(s), and now have the physical anatomy they desire.
PRE-OP: Transsexuals who have not yet had their sex-change [reassignment] operation(s), but who are working towards it.
SEX-REASSIGNMENT SURGERY (SRS): Sex-change operation.
SEXUAL (or EROTIC) ORIENTATION: This is determined by whom we are sexually (or erotically) attracted"our sexual/erotic drives, desires, fantasies. Categories of sexual orientation include homosexuals"gay, lesbian"attracted to some members of the same sex; bisexuals, attracted to some members of both sexes to varying degrees; heterosexuals, attracted to some members of the other sex; and asexuals, attracted to neither sex. Some sexuality researchers suggest that pederasts (adults sexually/erotically attracted to children) might be considered a separate sexual orientation. Sexual orientation is believed to be influenced by a variety of factors including genetics and hormones, as well as unknown environmental factors. Though the origins of sexual orientation are not completely understood, it is generally believed to be established during early childhood, usually before the age of five.
SEXUAL BEHAVIOR: This is what we do sexually and with whom. Though we are not certain what influences determine a person,s primary sexual attractions (sexual orientation), our culture can heavily influence peoples, actions and sexual behaviors. For example, one may have a "homosexual orientation, but due to overriding condemnations against same-sex sexual expression, may "pass by having sex only with people of the other sex. Sexuality researcher Alfred C. Kinsey and his colleagues devised a seven-point scale to chart the full spectrum of human sexual behavior, with "0 representing those whose histories are exclusively heterosexual, and "6 for those who are exclusively homosexual in behavior. Others were placed along the scale depending on the percentage of heterosexual (other sex) or homosexual (same sex) sexual expression in relation to overall behavior. Kinsey,s findings and other studies also suggest that sexuality is indeed more fluid and complex than once believed.
SEXUAL IDENTITY: This is what we call ourselves. Such labels include "lesbian, "gay, "bisexual, "bi, "queer, "questioning, "undecided, "undetermined, "heterosexual, "straight, "asexual, and others. Sexual identity evolves through a multi-stage developmental process that has been charted by a number of researchers. This progression varies in intensity and duration depending on the individual. Our sexual behavior and how we define ourselves (our identity) can be chosen. Though some people claim their sexual orientation is also a choice, for others, this does not seem to be the case.
TESTOSTERONE: The "male sex hormone. Actually, males and females, [as well as intersexuals] have testosterone in their systems, [though] males just have a great deal more of it. Some testosterone is necessary to have a sex drive. Since it is destroyed by stomach acid [when taken in pill form], most supplemental testosterone is delivered via injections.
T-FRIENDLY: Any organization or institution that is accepting of transgendered peoples and their needs. Contrast with transphobic (see below).
TRANSGENDER (TG): Originally, this word meant (1) what are also known as full-time cross-dressers or nonsurgical transsexuals, people who live and work in the [other] (of their physical anatomical) [sex], continuously and for always. Now it also means (2) the group of all people who are inclined to cross the gender line, including transsexuals, cross-dressers, and gender benders together. This is the main way the word is used today, and is referred to as the "umbrella definition as it covers everyone. A few [people] use the word transgender as (3) a synonym for transsexual.
TRANSGENDERIST: Same as definition 1 of transgender (see above). Those who mean definition 1 of transgender now tend to use transgenderist to avoid confusion.
TRANSITION: The process of changing sex, including hormones, cross-living (see above), and finally surgery. A practical minimum for this process is about two years, but usually it takes longer, sometimes much longer.
TRANSPHOBIA/TRANSPHOBIC: The fear and hatred of cross-dressers, transsexuals, and gender benders and what they do [or are feared to do], and everything that results from this, from disrespect, to denial of rights and needs, to violence. Though some have defined this as an "irrational fear and hatred, in actuality, from the time most of us are young, people and institutions (parents/guardians, peers, teachers, clergy, the media, etc.) have taught us to conform to societal notions of "proper gender behavior, and to hold in contempt those who challenge or transgress these standards. Transphobia is indeed a form of oppression.
TRANSSEXUAL (TS): Anyone who (1) wants to have, (2) has had, or (3) should have a sex-change operation. (The third definition is for those in denial.) This word also includes (4) nonsurgical transsexuals (see above). TS,s want to appear "convincing as their new selves.
TRANSSEXUAL FEMALE/WOMAN: An MTF TS. The medical literature tends to use the extremely demeaning term male transsexual to mean the same thing. Note that one can usually tell the preferred form is in use when the gender word comes after the "T word.
TRANSSEXUAL MALE/MAN: An FTM TS. The medical literature tends to use the extremely demeaning term female transsexual to mean the same thing. Note that one can usually tell the preferred form is in use when the gender word comes after the "T word.
TRANSVESTITE (TV): Same as cross-dresser (see above). Most [people] feel that cross-dresser is the preferred term.
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Mallory69
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Here is the second one that I found on the net:
The usage of these terms varies across communities, and new ways of
talking about the perceptions and experiences of transpeople appear every
day as more and more transpeople are coming out and talking about their
lives.
Gender: A person's expression and/or presentation of some combination
of masculine and/or feminine characteristics.
Gender Identity: A person's personal view of their own gender. A person's gender identity may or may not conform to the conventional expectations for their birth sex.
Gender Expression: The external presentation or appearance of
a person's gender. (Ex. Dress, mannerisms, hair style, speech, etc.). A
person's gender expression may differ from their gender identity.
Perceived Gender: What another person assumes one's gender is in a given interaction. Some people's gender expression is commonly misinterpreted or confused and is different from their identity/expression.
Transgender: A term used to describe people who's gender identity
is not adequately described by the sex they were assigned at birth. Transgender
is also used in some communities to describe all gender variant people.
Transsexual: A person who does not identify with the sex they
were assigned at birth. Many but not all transsexuals have or wish to alter
their bodies through the use of hormones or surgery. Transsexuals can be
male-to-female (MTF) or female-to-male (FTM).
Transition: The process of changing one's presentation and/or
expression to align with one's gender identity. Some of these changes include
name change, pronoun change, hormonal modifications, or surgery. Transition
varies greatly across the transgender community, both in what people choose
to change and when certain changes feel most comfortable.
Intersex: An individual whose biological birth does not correspond
with conventional expectations of male/female anatomy or genetics. Some
intersexuals consider themselves transgender and some do not. The older
term hermaphrodite is considered by many to be offensive.
Legal sex: The sex assigned on one's legal documents (license,
birth certificate, Social Security Card, etc.). For transpeople these documents
can be at odds due to differing laws regarding transitioning from state
to state (ex. A female birth certificate that says female but a drivers
license that says male)
Birth sex: The sex an individual is labeled at birth determined
by a combination of genetic and physical characteristics. Biological/Birth
sex is usually determined at birth by a "best-fit" strategy, dependent
on the examiner's bias.
Sexual Orientation: The gender or genders of the people one chooses
to form romantic/sexual attachments to. Gender identity and sexual orientation
are very different. Transpeople can be gay, lesbian, strait, queer, bisexual,
or pansexual.
Crossdressing: Adopting the dress of another sex. The older term
transvestite is considered by many to be offensive. Crossdressers differ
from transsexuals in that they do not necessarily wish to change their
sex.
Drag: The adoption of clothing and roles of another sex for the
purpose of play, entertainment, or eroticism. Originally used to refer
to "drag queens" (DRessed as A Girl), there are also a number of "drag
kings." Drag performers are not crossdressers, who adopt the clothing of
another sex outside of the context of entertainment/ performance.
Genderqueer: Someone whose gender expression is consciously not
consistent with conventional standards for male and female behavior.
Gendervariant: Someone whose combination of legal sex, birth
sex, gender identity, gender expression, and perceived gender do not line
up according to societal expecations. Often used in replacement of Genderqueer,
but is more comfortable with those not comfortable reclaiming the word
queer.
Gender Dualism: The belief that there are only two genders.
Standards of Care: A set of guidelines formulated by the Harry
Benjamin International Gender Dysphoria Association to determine when and
how transpeople could obtain sex reassignment, involving a period of psychotherapy, "the Real Life Test," and , if desired, surgery. Only within the past year have The Standards of Care been rewritten with advice and counsel from
actual transpersons.
Hormone Replacement Therapy (HRT): The process of taking hormones
to achieve the secondary sex characteristics of the desired sex. "T" is
a common short-hand for the male hormone Testosterone.
Sex Reassignment Surgery (SRS): Surgery for the porpose of having
a body more consistant with one's gender identity. SRS can get quite costly,
and not everyone who desires SRS has equal access.
The usage of these terms varies across communities, and new ways of
talking about the perceptions and experiences of transpeople appear every
day as more and more transpeople are coming out and talking about their
lives.
Gender: A person's expression and/or presentation of some combination
of masculine and/or feminine characteristics.
Gender Identity: A person's personal view of their own gender. A person's gender identity may or may not conform to the conventional expectations for their birth sex.
Gender Expression: The external presentation or appearance of
a person's gender. (Ex. Dress, mannerisms, hair style, speech, etc.). A
person's gender expression may differ from their gender identity.
Perceived Gender: What another person assumes one's gender is in a given interaction. Some people's gender expression is commonly misinterpreted or confused and is different from their identity/expression.
Transgender: A term used to describe people who's gender identity
is not adequately described by the sex they were assigned at birth. Transgender
is also used in some communities to describe all gender variant people.
Transsexual: A person who does not identify with the sex they
were assigned at birth. Many but not all transsexuals have or wish to alter
their bodies through the use of hormones or surgery. Transsexuals can be
male-to-female (MTF) or female-to-male (FTM).
Transition: The process of changing one's presentation and/or
expression to align with one's gender identity. Some of these changes include
name change, pronoun change, hormonal modifications, or surgery. Transition
varies greatly across the transgender community, both in what people choose
to change and when certain changes feel most comfortable.
Intersex: An individual whose biological birth does not correspond
with conventional expectations of male/female anatomy or genetics. Some
intersexuals consider themselves transgender and some do not. The older
term hermaphrodite is considered by many to be offensive.
Legal sex: The sex assigned on one's legal documents (license,
birth certificate, Social Security Card, etc.). For transpeople these documents
can be at odds due to differing laws regarding transitioning from state
to state (ex. A female birth certificate that says female but a drivers
license that says male)
Birth sex: The sex an individual is labeled at birth determined
by a combination of genetic and physical characteristics. Biological/Birth
sex is usually determined at birth by a "best-fit" strategy, dependent
on the examiner's bias.
Sexual Orientation: The gender or genders of the people one chooses
to form romantic/sexual attachments to. Gender identity and sexual orientation
are very different. Transpeople can be gay, lesbian, strait, queer, bisexual,
or pansexual.
Crossdressing: Adopting the dress of another sex. The older term
transvestite is considered by many to be offensive. Crossdressers differ
from transsexuals in that they do not necessarily wish to change their
sex.
Drag: The adoption of clothing and roles of another sex for the
purpose of play, entertainment, or eroticism. Originally used to refer
to "drag queens" (DRessed as A Girl), there are also a number of "drag
kings." Drag performers are not crossdressers, who adopt the clothing of
another sex outside of the context of entertainment/ performance.
Genderqueer: Someone whose gender expression is consciously not
consistent with conventional standards for male and female behavior.
Gendervariant: Someone whose combination of legal sex, birth
sex, gender identity, gender expression, and perceived gender do not line
up according to societal expecations. Often used in replacement of Genderqueer,
but is more comfortable with those not comfortable reclaiming the word
queer.
Gender Dualism: The belief that there are only two genders.
Standards of Care: A set of guidelines formulated by the Harry
Benjamin International Gender Dysphoria Association to determine when and
how transpeople could obtain sex reassignment, involving a period of psychotherapy, "the Real Life Test," and , if desired, surgery. Only within the past year have The Standards of Care been rewritten with advice and counsel from
actual transpersons.
Hormone Replacement Therapy (HRT): The process of taking hormones
to achieve the secondary sex characteristics of the desired sex. "T" is
a common short-hand for the male hormone Testosterone.
Sex Reassignment Surgery (SRS): Surgery for the porpose of having
a body more consistant with one's gender identity. SRS can get quite costly,
and not everyone who desires SRS has equal access.
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I hope that this will clarify and settle any disagreements between those who wish to create a heated debate here.
As for myself I can truly say that If I could wake up tomorrow as a woman, if I'd always been one, I would most definitely be a lesbian with an attraction to fem crossdressers or trans-people who could pass themselves off as women. There are a lot of women at my place of employment as well as those that shop there (retail) that I wish would take me home with them, play dress up with me, (which would include a complete makeover with hair and makeup) and then get more intimate ranging from just kissing to heavy petting to all things that come afterwards.
I have no desire or attraction towards men whatsoever. All of that yucky body hair..BRRRRRRRRRR.
As far as responding to the original question regarding breast forms, I use the foam rubber ones. They may not be the best and do wear out after much usage but they still help to create the image of the woman I wish I could be.
This is not just a fetish as I dress as often as I can. When I get home from work, I shower and shave and put on my fem clothes. I then go about my daily routine from cooking something for supper to doing my dishes or laundry or anything else along the way. I even will remain dressed when certain privelleged people come to visit.
Mallory
As for myself I can truly say that If I could wake up tomorrow as a woman, if I'd always been one, I would most definitely be a lesbian with an attraction to fem crossdressers or trans-people who could pass themselves off as women. There are a lot of women at my place of employment as well as those that shop there (retail) that I wish would take me home with them, play dress up with me, (which would include a complete makeover with hair and makeup) and then get more intimate ranging from just kissing to heavy petting to all things that come afterwards.
I have no desire or attraction towards men whatsoever. All of that yucky body hair..BRRRRRRRRRR.
As far as responding to the original question regarding breast forms, I use the foam rubber ones. They may not be the best and do wear out after much usage but they still help to create the image of the woman I wish I could be.
This is not just a fetish as I dress as often as I can. When I get home from work, I shower and shave and put on my fem clothes. I then go about my daily routine from cooking something for supper to doing my dishes or laundry or anything else along the way. I even will remain dressed when certain privelleged people come to visit.
Mallory
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Here's one more that I found. I came up with #8
Background Paper 2.0
Reasons for Male to Female Crossdressing
The Renaissance Transgender Association, Inc. 987 Old
Eagle School Road, Suite 719 Wayne, Pa. 19087,
610.975.9119
There does not appear to be any one reason why some
men feel the need for dressing in women's clothes, or
why they do so despite the disapproval of society and
the popular belief that they are sexual deviates. Many
crossdressers have sought out professional help in
changing their behavior, but very few "successes" are
reported despite a sincere desire on the part of these
crossdressers to change. This inability to "treat"
crossdressing implies that it fulfills a body of
complex psychological needs rather than simply being a
sexual dysfunction or an expression of "deviate"
sexuality. If it were purely a sexual fetish, for
example, classic reconditioning should be effective;
yet it is not. Many transvestites report that they
experience different reasons at different times, or a
combination of reasons on specific occasions. The
broad range of motives listed here supports the notion
that transvestism is not a simplistic behavior focused
on sex and/or sexuality, but perhaps a response to a
complex and interrelated group of needs, some of which
are far removed from sexual issues and closely aligned
with gender roles.
1. Erotic arousal/fetishism.
Often this is the transvestite's first and primary
association with feminine clothing. Many times, the
person is initially aroused by lingerie, perhaps by
its connection with the boudoir, or by the tactile
sensations these clothes present. Eventually these
items are used as an aid for masturbation. For
transvestites, the ultimate result is that they begin
dressing in the clothes even though that may not have
been their original intent. Many transvestites report
that through masturbation they developed a fetish for
women's clothes while in puberty. Some say that the
attachment arose much later in life.
Sexual fantasies for many transvestites involve sexual
contact with another person while they are dressed.
Most often that person is a female. Others, who are
heterosexual at all other times, fantasize about sex
with men, but only while they are dressed as women.
Some transvestites are fortunate in that their partner
allows them to dress while having sex. When a
transvestite cannot dress, he frequently fantasizes
that he is wearing women's clothes while having sex
with another person or while masturbating. Some can be
aroused no other way.
2. Relief from tension.
Some transvestites say that they dress when they are
feeling extreme pressure in their male lives. For some
of these men, the act of wearing women's clothes
allows them to "step away" from masculinity and all
that society expects of men. Other men report while
they enjoy playing a traditional masculine role, their
cross-dressing provides a welcome refuge. These
motives are related to the expression of hidden
personality characteristics.
3. Expressing hidden personality characteristics.
Crossdressing allows some men the opportunity to
express portions of their personalities that this
society does not accept in "masculine" men. While
these characteristics, such as gentleness, passivity,
and emotional sensitivity, are neither specifically
feminine nor masculine, they are most commonly
associated with women. Some men also report that they
have the need to be flirtatious, to feel beautiful and
glamorous, or to act passive and helpless. The
transvestite feels most free to express these traits
only when he is dressed as a woman.
3a. The Androgyne Hypothesis.
Several clinical psychologists have hypothesized that
the psyche of all men and women is innately
androgynous, i.e. having the characteristics of both
genders. Through cultural processes, however, most
boys grow up to be fully masculine men and most women
mature into fully feminine women. According to this
hypothesis, these people reconcile the "residue" of
their opposite gender traits through a variety of
"acceptable" means. But for some people, this residue
is so great and their urge to express these
characteristics is so strong, that they develop a
gender dysphoria which is manifested, for example, in
the need to act out a feminine role (male
transvestites) or by the desire to change their
anatomical gender (transsexuals).
4. Envy of women.
Some crossdressers say that they envy or idolize women
and therefore want to be like them. Their view of
women's position in society is often unrealistic and
idealized: the "little homemaker," the "sex kitten,"
or the "bitch goddess." Some transvestites also say
that they envy women's bodies. Although this motive
for crossdressing approaches transsexualism, for many
men a desire to have breasts does not mean that they
wish to be rid of their penises.
5. Fooling the world.
The urge to appear in public in women's clothes and
pass as a woman provides all the satisfaction some men
seek. They report that although they have the
opportunity to dress often while they are home, they
do not. Instead, they dress only when they have the
occasion to go out. Appearing in public in women's
clothes provides a "high" for some transvestites that
in itself is a sufficient motive for dressing. These
men enjoy being thought of as women, although this can
have some distressing implications for confirmed
heterosexual transvestites whose feminine appearance
is good enough to attract the attention of admiring
men. For others, however, this attention is just a
testimony to their success with the masquerade. They
realize an unwanted invitation need not be accepted.
6. A conscious alternative personality.
This differs from #3 in that the alternative "female"
personality is a different person from the male. "She"
frequently has "her" own name, makes "her" own social
niche, and has "her" own history. Many crossdressers
refer to their "female" selves as their "sister" or
with another third person term when they are not in
drag. ("My sister went out the other night and she had
a ball!") This is often a matter of convenience when
conversing with other crossdressers. But for some
crossdressers this alternative personality has a "life
of her own." This is not, however, a split personality
because the crossdresser knows that the "female"
character is an illusion, a character in a drama
produced and directed by the crossdresser himself. The
transvestite who has created an alternative
personality actually finds satisfaction in bringing
that character to "life" and in playing out episodes
of the drama.
7. Creativity.
Some crossdressers say that their skillful appearance
as a woman is an art form that involves making
something appear to be something that it is not. This
skill requires the full range of theater arts
(costuming, make up, and acting) plus an artist's eye
for color, texture and scale. Some transvestites also
call their crossdressing a hobby that pleasantly
occupies their leisure time, whether they are dressed
in women's clothes or dressed in men's clothes and
shopping for or planning their feminine wardrobe or
their next excursion in drag. Some men crossdress
purely as a creative outlet, i.e. the professional
female impersonator. While many impersonators call
what they do "simply a job" and let it go at that,
others react in a strongly negative manner to the
merest suggestion that they are transvestites. This
reaction reflects society's belief that crossdressing
in response to personal or psychological needs is
"sick."
8. I thought of a new term to add to the list of words used to describe us: Femulator
The term femulator is comprised of two words, "FEM" (short for female) and "EMULATOR".
The Femulator is a person who crossdresses because he wishes to emulate that which he most admires and desires, a member of the female gender. The femulator may crossdress in the privacy in 'her' own home whenever the opportunity arises so that there is a hint of a female presence in an otherwise lonely empty life. The femulator hopes to blend in with natural females when out in public (if presentable enough) and make new friends with them. 'She' may have fantasies involving either gender but mainly involves genetic females or other passable people like herself. 'She' is not at all attracted to men and considers herself to be a lesbian.
The femulator might wish to find ways to enhance their illusion through the use of prosthetic devices such as artificial breasts or vaginas. This person sees other women (friends, family members, co-workers etc) and wishes what it would be like to be that person if even for a day. 'She' closely studies the object of her desire (clothing, makeup mannerisms etc.) so that 'she can capture the essence of her focus and imitate them to perfection. This goes a long way to help them "emulate" the (type of) woman 'she' wishes to be like. 'She' may also try to do subtle little things to help enhance 'her' image such as growing out 'her' hair, thinning out 'her' eyebrows slightly and/or trimming 'her' finger nails and /or applying a clear laquer to them. 'She' may also shave her legs and other parts of 'her' body.
When at home 'she' might go on further to apply full makeup to 'her' face and use feminine hygene products such as body sprays, anti-persperants, feminine napkins etc. 'She' may also have a number of other accessories such as jewellery and or a purse. 'she' may also sleep/be most comfortable in bedclothes generally designed for genetic females most of the time.
Since imitation is said to be the sincerest form of flattery, the femulator dressess en femme to honour women.
Background Paper 2.0
Reasons for Male to Female Crossdressing
The Renaissance Transgender Association, Inc. 987 Old
Eagle School Road, Suite 719 Wayne, Pa. 19087,
610.975.9119
There does not appear to be any one reason why some
men feel the need for dressing in women's clothes, or
why they do so despite the disapproval of society and
the popular belief that they are sexual deviates. Many
crossdressers have sought out professional help in
changing their behavior, but very few "successes" are
reported despite a sincere desire on the part of these
crossdressers to change. This inability to "treat"
crossdressing implies that it fulfills a body of
complex psychological needs rather than simply being a
sexual dysfunction or an expression of "deviate"
sexuality. If it were purely a sexual fetish, for
example, classic reconditioning should be effective;
yet it is not. Many transvestites report that they
experience different reasons at different times, or a
combination of reasons on specific occasions. The
broad range of motives listed here supports the notion
that transvestism is not a simplistic behavior focused
on sex and/or sexuality, but perhaps a response to a
complex and interrelated group of needs, some of which
are far removed from sexual issues and closely aligned
with gender roles.
1. Erotic arousal/fetishism.
Often this is the transvestite's first and primary
association with feminine clothing. Many times, the
person is initially aroused by lingerie, perhaps by
its connection with the boudoir, or by the tactile
sensations these clothes present. Eventually these
items are used as an aid for masturbation. For
transvestites, the ultimate result is that they begin
dressing in the clothes even though that may not have
been their original intent. Many transvestites report
that through masturbation they developed a fetish for
women's clothes while in puberty. Some say that the
attachment arose much later in life.
Sexual fantasies for many transvestites involve sexual
contact with another person while they are dressed.
Most often that person is a female. Others, who are
heterosexual at all other times, fantasize about sex
with men, but only while they are dressed as women.
Some transvestites are fortunate in that their partner
allows them to dress while having sex. When a
transvestite cannot dress, he frequently fantasizes
that he is wearing women's clothes while having sex
with another person or while masturbating. Some can be
aroused no other way.
2. Relief from tension.
Some transvestites say that they dress when they are
feeling extreme pressure in their male lives. For some
of these men, the act of wearing women's clothes
allows them to "step away" from masculinity and all
that society expects of men. Other men report while
they enjoy playing a traditional masculine role, their
cross-dressing provides a welcome refuge. These
motives are related to the expression of hidden
personality characteristics.
3. Expressing hidden personality characteristics.
Crossdressing allows some men the opportunity to
express portions of their personalities that this
society does not accept in "masculine" men. While
these characteristics, such as gentleness, passivity,
and emotional sensitivity, are neither specifically
feminine nor masculine, they are most commonly
associated with women. Some men also report that they
have the need to be flirtatious, to feel beautiful and
glamorous, or to act passive and helpless. The
transvestite feels most free to express these traits
only when he is dressed as a woman.
3a. The Androgyne Hypothesis.
Several clinical psychologists have hypothesized that
the psyche of all men and women is innately
androgynous, i.e. having the characteristics of both
genders. Through cultural processes, however, most
boys grow up to be fully masculine men and most women
mature into fully feminine women. According to this
hypothesis, these people reconcile the "residue" of
their opposite gender traits through a variety of
"acceptable" means. But for some people, this residue
is so great and their urge to express these
characteristics is so strong, that they develop a
gender dysphoria which is manifested, for example, in
the need to act out a feminine role (male
transvestites) or by the desire to change their
anatomical gender (transsexuals).
4. Envy of women.
Some crossdressers say that they envy or idolize women
and therefore want to be like them. Their view of
women's position in society is often unrealistic and
idealized: the "little homemaker," the "sex kitten,"
or the "bitch goddess." Some transvestites also say
that they envy women's bodies. Although this motive
for crossdressing approaches transsexualism, for many
men a desire to have breasts does not mean that they
wish to be rid of their penises.
5. Fooling the world.
The urge to appear in public in women's clothes and
pass as a woman provides all the satisfaction some men
seek. They report that although they have the
opportunity to dress often while they are home, they
do not. Instead, they dress only when they have the
occasion to go out. Appearing in public in women's
clothes provides a "high" for some transvestites that
in itself is a sufficient motive for dressing. These
men enjoy being thought of as women, although this can
have some distressing implications for confirmed
heterosexual transvestites whose feminine appearance
is good enough to attract the attention of admiring
men. For others, however, this attention is just a
testimony to their success with the masquerade. They
realize an unwanted invitation need not be accepted.
6. A conscious alternative personality.
This differs from #3 in that the alternative "female"
personality is a different person from the male. "She"
frequently has "her" own name, makes "her" own social
niche, and has "her" own history. Many crossdressers
refer to their "female" selves as their "sister" or
with another third person term when they are not in
drag. ("My sister went out the other night and she had
a ball!") This is often a matter of convenience when
conversing with other crossdressers. But for some
crossdressers this alternative personality has a "life
of her own." This is not, however, a split personality
because the crossdresser knows that the "female"
character is an illusion, a character in a drama
produced and directed by the crossdresser himself. The
transvestite who has created an alternative
personality actually finds satisfaction in bringing
that character to "life" and in playing out episodes
of the drama.
7. Creativity.
Some crossdressers say that their skillful appearance
as a woman is an art form that involves making
something appear to be something that it is not. This
skill requires the full range of theater arts
(costuming, make up, and acting) plus an artist's eye
for color, texture and scale. Some transvestites also
call their crossdressing a hobby that pleasantly
occupies their leisure time, whether they are dressed
in women's clothes or dressed in men's clothes and
shopping for or planning their feminine wardrobe or
their next excursion in drag. Some men crossdress
purely as a creative outlet, i.e. the professional
female impersonator. While many impersonators call
what they do "simply a job" and let it go at that,
others react in a strongly negative manner to the
merest suggestion that they are transvestites. This
reaction reflects society's belief that crossdressing
in response to personal or psychological needs is
"sick."
8. I thought of a new term to add to the list of words used to describe us: Femulator
The term femulator is comprised of two words, "FEM" (short for female) and "EMULATOR".
The Femulator is a person who crossdresses because he wishes to emulate that which he most admires and desires, a member of the female gender. The femulator may crossdress in the privacy in 'her' own home whenever the opportunity arises so that there is a hint of a female presence in an otherwise lonely empty life. The femulator hopes to blend in with natural females when out in public (if presentable enough) and make new friends with them. 'She' may have fantasies involving either gender but mainly involves genetic females or other passable people like herself. 'She' is not at all attracted to men and considers herself to be a lesbian.
The femulator might wish to find ways to enhance their illusion through the use of prosthetic devices such as artificial breasts or vaginas. This person sees other women (friends, family members, co-workers etc) and wishes what it would be like to be that person if even for a day. 'She' closely studies the object of her desire (clothing, makeup mannerisms etc.) so that 'she can capture the essence of her focus and imitate them to perfection. This goes a long way to help them "emulate" the (type of) woman 'she' wishes to be like. 'She' may also try to do subtle little things to help enhance 'her' image such as growing out 'her' hair, thinning out 'her' eyebrows slightly and/or trimming 'her' finger nails and /or applying a clear laquer to them. 'She' may also shave her legs and other parts of 'her' body.
When at home 'she' might go on further to apply full makeup to 'her' face and use feminine hygene products such as body sprays, anti-persperants, feminine napkins etc. 'She' may also have a number of other accessories such as jewellery and or a purse. 'she' may also sleep/be most comfortable in bedclothes generally designed for genetic females most of the time.
Since imitation is said to be the sincerest form of flattery, the femulator dressess en femme to honour women.
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Mallory69 said:
Eh. It's just Stuponfucious being Stuponfucious. If he doesn't feel like the world revolves around him, he starts stirring things up so people will pay attention to him. Sometimes it's ridiculous nitpicking, sometimes it's ridiculous semantical arguments, and sometimes it's ridiculous accusations. In every case, it's ridiculous.
Most of us have learned to ignore his petty BS and just laugh at him.
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Joannac said:
Look at my previous post (the one right above yours) for an explanation.
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LarzMachine said:
You claimed that I was saying (or implying, even though I do not waste my time with merely implying) that non-homosexual people do not belong here. That is ridiculous because I personally am not gay. As I have explained this many times, you are either too stupid to understand a very simple concept or you are lying.
As far as pissing contests, you have contributed absolutely nothing, but it is not my place to say whether or not you should be allowed to post.
Those who live in glass houses should not throw stones. I suggest you look at your own behavior before you make accusations.
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Stuponfucious said:
You demanded to know why this post was here. That's an implication of it not belonging. You then used as justification for this implication the fact that not all crossdressers are gay. That is an implication that straights (or at least people who aren't "gay enough" for you) don't belong here. Ergo, I wasn't lying, which means your accusation of lying was a lie in itself.
How did I not understand that you are not gay when you yourself have said a few times now that you aren't? I was ASKING why you figure you belong here in light of your implications, or if you ARE in fact gay which lends more evidence to the fact that every crossdresser I've ever known was gay. But hey, we know your strong suit isn't reading comprehension -- that would be trolling.
Poor Stupon. His ridiculous accusations didn't work, so now he's throwing a hissyfit.
As for people in glass houses, you're the one accusing me of being a liar even though you have been shown to be the liar yourself. Try again, kid.
Besides, I thought I was on ignore. Wow. You can't even do THAT right.
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LarzMachine said:
Please quote me where I have demanded anything. I asked a question so we might have a an interesting discussion. Joannac is participating to that end, but you insist on arguing.
As I said, I do not imply anything online, and for this very reason. It is too easy for something to be intepreted in a manner it was not intended.
The fact that not all trasnvesties are gay is accurate. You have yet to disprove that, regardless of your personal experience.
Do not misquote me. I never said the words "gay enough," you did.
If you were not lying, then how would my accusation be a lie? It would be false.
Again, no implications have been made (except by you). Therefore your question is moot. Anyone who wishes to post here (without being offensive) is welcome here, butI find it ironic though that someone who claims to be in an oppressed minority wishes to exclude me.
Yes, apparently you are trolling, as there was no point to your response, but you have made a point of harassing me and pontificating as though you are some sort omniscient expert.
No one has yet shown me to be a liar, because I am not. You, however, see no problem with bending the truth to suit you.
You may view logic as a hissyfit and hurl insults until you are blue in the face, but that will never change the fact that you are making a mountain out of a mole hill and turning what would've been a fascinating discussion into a debacle.
Yes, I did follow follow Etoile's advice and put you on Ignore, but I gave you the benefit of the doubt and took you off the list. Now that I know there is absolutely no reasoning with you, I will put you back on the list and leave you there. There is no point in discussing this with you any further. Have a nice life.
LarzMachine
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Stuponfucious said:
Except me.
Of course not. You fell on your own sword with your ridiculous accuations and my proof of your lies.
Honeydew56
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Ouch! AS a wife of a hetro cross dresser, may I suggest a seperate area for CD info here??. I am new to this board but it seems the GLBT area is more for the GLB and not too friendly to the T's. My husband considers himself transgendered- The "T". He loves to wear womens things but does not want to make any changes or enhancements to his body. We both love his male parts but invite 'her' in too sometimes. From the groups we are in there are many CDs who are hetro. The number of gay CD's is about the same % as in the general population, this info coming from the Tri-ess website.
I see there are other SO's here so anyone wanting to start a thread for T/CD chatter I will be happy to join in.
For the GLB's think about when you were never accepted, that is kind of where the CD/T's are at we are just trying to find our nitch in this world and want acceptance just like you.
As to the original question. He purchased his forms on ebay. Put in a search for 'breast forms' and you will find lots of choices. He originally had some tiny enhancers from V.S. and they just did not do the job when he was dressed. He bought 'pals' they are a very soft rubber form that looks and feels like a breast and fit very well into a bra. They are a reasonable price come in various sizes and shapes to suit your needs.
Honey
I see there are other SO's here so anyone wanting to start a thread for T/CD chatter I will be happy to join in.
For the GLB's think about when you were never accepted, that is kind of where the CD/T's are at we are just trying to find our nitch in this world and want acceptance just like you.
As to the original question. He purchased his forms on ebay. Put in a search for 'breast forms' and you will find lots of choices. He originally had some tiny enhancers from V.S. and they just did not do the job when he was dressed. He bought 'pals' they are a very soft rubber form that looks and feels like a breast and fit very well into a bra. They are a reasonable price come in various sizes and shapes to suit your needs.
Honey
Kathleencd
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I agree with Honeydew. We (Crossdressers) need our own forum. Just look at some of the crap that has come down on the this topic.
From ignorance comes intolerance.
From ignorance comes intolerance.
JeanetteLv2
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At least I'm not alone in that opinion.
LarzMachine
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Honeydew56 said:
That's how it is pretty much everywhere. Strangely enough, you can see proof of this in all the wannabes. A few years back, it was bisexuals who were the outcasts in the gay community, so you had piles of people playing bi to be "edgy." Now it's Ts.
Untamed_Heart
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First of all, i will adress the point of this thread with my input...my ex used the foam inserts, olderstyle, but they looked Very realistic, to the point when we went to Detours together we almost didn't get in due to the fact they thought we were 2 straight girls bar hopping (it was kind of hilarious when thee doorman was corrected, the look on his face was priceless)
And in response to the fact that some people dont seem to think this post belongs in GLBT, i ask one simple question; if not here, where? where would it be more appropriate?
And in response to the fact that some people dont seem to think this post belongs in GLBT, i ask one simple question; if not here, where? where would it be more appropriate?
AndreaTMichelle
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Firstly,
If you look at the "sticky" post from the moderators...
GLBT stands for=
Gay, Lesbian, Bi, Transgendered.
Secondly, Transgendered today stands for the entire spectrum from CD to Gender Dysphoric.
From the male (or female) who enjoys dressing ion the clothes of the opposite sex, to the person who feels that they are in the wrong body. (whether they have enhancements done or surgery, or even if they dont do anything physically to change).
And the original question Does fit here.
I used a foam bra insert for a few years, and then changed to a silicon gell unit that could be adheared to my body by the use of tape or a body glue.
Eventually I opted for implants (placed under the muscle), for a more realistic look and feel. And I do live fulltime as a woman. I will not have surgery, as I cant afford it and have no need to. MY girlfriends have all delighted in my being the best of both worlds. and I am only intimate with woman.. but I am not and will not get involved with men.
I am a woman, I live as a woman, and I am only with women in my life.
Andrea
If you look at the "sticky" post from the moderators...
GLBT stands for=
Gay, Lesbian, Bi, Transgendered.
Secondly, Transgendered today stands for the entire spectrum from CD to Gender Dysphoric.
From the male (or female) who enjoys dressing ion the clothes of the opposite sex, to the person who feels that they are in the wrong body. (whether they have enhancements done or surgery, or even if they dont do anything physically to change).
And the original question Does fit here.
I used a foam bra insert for a few years, and then changed to a silicon gell unit that could be adheared to my body by the use of tape or a body glue.
Eventually I opted for implants (placed under the muscle), for a more realistic look and feel. And I do live fulltime as a woman. I will not have surgery, as I cant afford it and have no need to. MY girlfriends have all delighted in my being the best of both worlds. and I am only intimate with woman.. but I am not and will not get involved with men.
I am a woman, I live as a woman, and I am only with women in my life.
Andrea
