fans of Yes... HELP!!!

[EJFan]

i'm goin' absolutely batty here. if you're a fan of the band YES, i really need big-time help.

on the 3rd track of 90125 ("it can happen") there are some hidden lyrics about 3:14 into the tune. any clue what they are or where i might go to find out?

i've exhausted every YES website i can find and have had no luck. please help before this drives me totally insane.

 

[Missingmeds]

Okay my first question after doing some searching is how do you know that there are hidden lyrics there?

All I am finding is the song lyrics and then the solo lyrics.

 

[EJFan]

re:

if you go to that 3:14 point in the song, you can hear someone talking quietly behind the music. the only problem is that that section of the song is only listed on lyric sheets as "solo" and doesn't make any mention of the spoken words.

this isn't at all uncommon in yes songs. many of their recordings have hidden lyrics in them. it's just that there's no listing (that i can find) of what these particular words are.

 

[Missingmeds]

Yes
» It Can Happen

You can fool yourself
You can cheat until you're blind
You can cut your heart
It can happen
You can mend the wires
You can feed the soul apart
You reach
It can happen to you
It can happen to me
It can happen to everyone eventually
It's a constant fight
A constant fight
You're pushing the needle to the red
Black and white
Who knows who's right
No substitute you're born you're dead
Fly by night
Created out of fantasy
Our destinations call
Look up - Look down
Look out - Look around
Look up - Look down
There's a crazy world outside
We're not about to lose our pride
It can happen to you
It can happen to me
It can happen to everyone eventually
As you happen to say
It can happen today
As it happens
It happens in every way
This world I like
We architects of life
A song a sigh
Developing words that linger
Through fields of green through open eyes
This for us to see
Look up - Look down
Look out - Look around
So look up - Look down
There's a crazy world outside
We're not about to lose our pride
It can happen to you
It can happen to me
It can happen to everyone eventually
As you happen to say
It can happen today
As it happens
It happens in every way
As you happen to see
It will happen to be
Nothing happens to nowhere and nowhere

Solo

Look up - Look down
There's a crazy world outside
We're not about to lose our pride
It can happen to you
It can happen to me
It can happen to everyone eventually
As you happen to see
It will happen to be
Nothing happens to nowhere and nowhere
You can fool yourself
You can cheat until you're blind
You can cut your heart
You can fool yourself It can happen to you
You can cheat until you're blind It can happen to me
You can cut your heart It can happen to eveyone eventually
As you happen to say
It can happen today
As it happens
It happens in every way
You can mend the wires
You can feed the soul apart
You can touch your life
You can bring your soul alive
It can happen to you
It can happen to me
It can happen to everyone eventually
As you happen to say
It can happen today
As it happens
It happens in every way

It was on every set of lyrics that I checked. I don't know where you were looking but I found several that had it unless the part following the word solo isn't the solo.

But I think that is what that word means. When you see solo followed by words, those are the solo.

 

[sheath]

Re: re:

if you go to that 3:14 point in the song, you can hear someone talking quietly behind the music. the only problem is that that section of the song is only listed on lyric sheets as "solo" and doesn't make any mention of the spoken words.

this isn't at all uncommon in yes songs. many of their recordings have hidden lyrics in them. it's just that there's no listing (that i can find) of what these particular words are.

Okay. Often a 'solo' entered in the middle of a lyric sheet indicates the musical solo. The words after a solo are sometimes referred to as the 'bridge', especially if they deviate a bit from the original tempo of the song.

Hidden lyrics are VERY common, you're right. So are hidden tracks. I once heard a CD in which there was a track "7 1/2" hidden...you had to listen to eight, then backtrack to seven to actually hear the hidden track. I thought it was strange and cool as hell at the same time.

It is going to be very hard to find the lyrics to hidden tracks, or even hidden lyrics within a song. Part of the point is to surprise the listener and to let them create their own idea of what those lyrics might be...that's part of why, within a song, those hidden lyrics are often muddled or very, very quiet. Sometimes hidden lyrics are just done on the fly and the end of production, nobody is really sure what was originally said. It happens.

Sometimes a guitarist will simply talk to himself in the studio, and that makes it onto the final cut. But since you mentioned it is a common tool the band uses, then it is safe to say the hidden words were intentionally put there.

The best bet...fan message boards. When it comes to lyrics, die-hard fans are usually the ones who can reel off the hiddens in a heartbeat. Log onto a message board and ask them the same thing you asked here, and if it is a very active board, you should have a response very quickly.

If all else fails, you can go the more difficult route. Look up the studio on the liner notes. Call that studio and tell them what you are looking for, and they will likely lead you to the producer, who will be able to help you more than anyone...since, after all, the producer is the one who was hands-on throughout the whole recording, for the most part.

Good luck.

S.

 

[EJFan]

thank you both

sheath... i knew you'd chime in sooner or later. lol. thanks for the leads. the way things are going it might just wind up with me callin' the studio, but let's hope not.

i've checked every fan board i can come across and submitted questions to a couple of them. a number of people, it seems, have asked this particular question but it's never been answered as far as i can find.

missingmeds... thanks for posting the lyrics. that section marked "solo" in the middle is the part in the song where the "hidden lyrics" are. during that segment, someone's speaking. the only part i can make out is the first sentence where the guy says, "look down old boy..." and then it gets much more muffled.

maybe it says "i burried paul." lol.

 

[EJFan]

FOUND IT!!!!!!

hi folks... just wanted to let you know that i found the answer to this question.

apparently, the hidden lyrics are john gielgud reading from "the importance of being earnest," by oscar wilde. specifically, it's excerpts from this passage... the algernon character's lines, starting with "come, old boy...":

Algernon. Yes, but that does not account for the fact that your small Aunt Cecily, who lives at Tunbridge Wells, calls you her dear uncle. Come, old boy, you had much better have the thing out at once.

Jack. My dear Algy, you talk exactly as if you were a dentist. It is very vulgar to talk like a dentist when one isn’t a dentist. It produces a false impression,

Algernon. Well, that is exactly what dentists always do. Now, go on! Tell me the whole thing. I may mention that I have always suspected you of being a confirmed and secret Bunburyist; and I am quite sure of it now.

thank you all for your help. sheath... i expect you to store this away in your own private music trivia bank.

 

[sheath]

Re: FOUND IT!!!!!!

sheath... i expect you to store this away in your own private music trivia bank.

Absolutely. That has to be one of the most unique hidden lyric tricks I have ever heard about...they are usually ad libbed, off-the-cuff things.

Do they use readings like that for other songs? Why do you think they chose to use those particular lines?

I find this incredibly interesting.

S.

 

[bobsgirl]

Re: thank you both

maybe it says "i burried paul." lol.

Being a die-hard Beatles fan, I find this extremely funny.

 

[midwestyankee]

Re: Re: FOUND IT!!!!!!

Absolutely. That has to be one of the most unique hidden lyric tricks I have ever heard about...they are usually ad libbed, off-the-cuff things.

Do they use readings like that for other songs? Why do you think they chose to use those particular lines?

I find this incredibly interesting.

S.

I would be willing to hazard a guess that these lines from the Wilde play were included partly because of the word, "bunburyist." I don't recall if this was a neologism or common slang at the time, but the word was used as a euphemism for homosexual in the play. And, of course, Wilde was excessively fond of both hiding cute little secrets in his plays and of being a bunburyist.

I think I need to pull out a couple of my old Yes albums just to hear what I might hear that I never heard before.

 

[EJFan]

wow!

wholly shit... seems like we have a boat-load of interest here. lol.

MWY, i like your thoughts. i wish i had something to add but your reasoning seems to make good sense. either that, or it's the best load o' crap every scripted. lol.

bobsgirl... i'm a beatle fan too, so i just had to throw that jab in there for shits and giggles.

there are a LOT of these types of hidden lyrics in yes tunes. i'll try to collect some of the ones i've come across in my quest for this information.

in the mean time, i can tell you that rick wakeman is the one who threw the tomato for the cover art on the "tormato" album. i can also tell you that a lot of yes songs are actually based on classic writing... which makes it even more understandable that a wilde play would be used in this instance.

 

[midwestyankee]

Re: wow!

wholly shit... seems like we have a boat-load of interest here. lol.

MWY, i like your thoughts. i wish i had something to add but your reasoning seems to make good sense. either that, or it's the best load o' crap every scripted. lol.

No bs here; this is the gospel on Oscar Wilde.

 

[EJFan]

some yes trivia fer ya

this is coming from "yesfans.com" if you want to look deeper. since there's an interest in this stuff, i've copied/pasted some bits...

Yes was the first band to use lasers and an In the Round stage setup in concert.

Rick Wakeman was the first keyboard player to stack his keyboards.

steve was also was the first to introduce the formerly "country only" instrument, the steel pedal guitar, into the world of prog rock.

The wierd instrumental section in the middle of "Perpetual Change" is actually the song's melody line played at double speed (with some audio effects). This was also one of the first Pre-Wakeman uses of a synthesizer.

Gates of Delirium is loosely based on Tolstoy's "War and Peace"

The lyrics to close to the edge were based on the book "Siddartha" by Herman Hesse.

from "final eyes"
hot color, melting the anger to stone cold is in reference to Kent State, four dead in Ohio.

In a music paper in 70's (I now forget which one) Jon had explained the lyrics to "Yours Is No Disgrace" , the details of which I don't remember, but the essence of it is, that it was about Northern Ireland. (Struggle for power between IRA and Britain)

"Love will find a way" was written for Stevie Nicks originally.


interesting stuff if you're a fan of the group. i'm gonna shut up with the general trivia though. if i come across any VERY interesting things related to the lyrics we've been talking about i'll post it.

thanks all! i've really enjoyed going over this stuff. let me know if you have a question... i love this stuff.