Finding Errors After Your Story Has Been Posted

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I was poking around my account and somehow found myself re-reading my highest rated story. I get to the second page and I found two OBVIOUS errors. I must have gone over that story at least 3 times including using MS Word spell and grammar check and yet I totally missed those two. Bothers me because it was almost flawless. Ugh!
 
I must have gone over that story at least 3 times...

Clearly not enough. Know this problem well. Checking my to-do list, it looks like I have five already-published stories where I discovered punctuation errors such as missing quote marks in dialog. And I was a professional proofreader for a while. Sometimes you get the bear, sometimes the bear gets you.

There is (was... pro proofreading is a lost art) an adage in the biz, you don't proofread your own writing. Problem is you know what's coming and you gloss over what you know you wrote correctly... or intended to. Challenge with writing erotica for free is finding a volunteer to proofread.

The real solution is to step away for a few days after calling it "done". You'll be surprised by what you see after the digital ink is dry.
 
If you're submitting via cut-n-paste or uploading a file that allows the preview, use it. Read that sucker one last time in the preview window. I've found umpteen mistakes that have slipped through every other editing pass that way. The weird margins, unfamiliar screen placement and font make stuff jump out at you like a cat with the zoomies.
 
It is frustrating that, for two reasons, it's just about impossible to easily correct a typo or amend a published work.

Agreed. This is a serious shortcoming. But, frankly, I sympathize as a former coder - editors are infuriatingly difficult to code! Especially difficult are editors which flag changes, a definite necessity for LitE to prevent after-the-fact editing as a moderation bypass.

The "edit" process here is, I suspect, running the new text against the old version using a comparison app. That's a manual process, and reading through the results is time-consuming. I know of one site with an excellent editing feature, but I know firsthand that the moderator is manually approving the edits, and his system is going to collapse if the site sees any volume at all (it won't, but that's another issue).
 
I was poking around my account and somehow found myself re-reading my highest rated story. I get to the second page and I found two OBVIOUS errors. I must have gone over that story at least 3 times including using MS Word spell and grammar check and yet I totally missed those two. Bothers me because it was almost flawless. Ugh!
It happens to the best of us. I have nearly thirty years experience as a professional proofreader and copyeditor, and I doubt that a single one of my stories is completely error-free. At a certain point I skipped the "Read Aloud" tool, and that made it even worse.

It's annoying, but really, it's not the end of the world. Any reader who downvotes you for two typos was probably predisposed to downvote you anyway. And a reader who enjoys your story won't care enough to give you a lower score.
 
I find the most effective way to identify a typo is to get the story published.

Printing something that needs a wet signature works too...
 
Don't feel too bad.

Seriously.

I routinely find obvious errors in bestseller novels by major publishers. Hard to correct errors on Lit? How about 100,000 dead-tree copies scattered all over the world.

They're called "obvious" errors because we all know what it was supposed to be. If a story gets spoiled for me because I'm so bored that I notice a quotation mark is out of place it wasn't much of a story, was it?

I used to write screenplays Sometimes the actors actually spoke the lines the way i wrote them. I got to where after I uploaded a script, it wasn't mine any more. It belonged to the studio. My name was on the episode. But so was the director, the producer and the show creator.

Writing should be like sex. After it's over, don't obsess about the wet spot in the bed.
 
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I don't understand all of the angst expressed over submitting an edit to an existing story.

If the mistake(s) bothers you enough, correct your source file and then resubmit it as an edit. The process is not that challenging, but it can take a while to see the new submission.

So what? The original story remains up, receiving views, votes, and comments while the edit is processed.

Is the desire for instant gratification the motivating factor behind the criticism of edit process, or is there something else that I am missing?
 
On my profile I've got a list of errata: spelling mistakes, wrong punctuation, etc. They don't matter. No point going through the hassle of submitting an edit just to fix them. Any reader with a brain cell (refrains from snarking) sees the error, perhaps notices it, continues mostly unperturbed.

But the two edits I have submitted are because I used the wrong name of a character - I assigned a speech to someone who wouldn't have said it, or who wasn't there. These were both deeply embarrassing and I would have liked to fix them immediately. Assuming the vast majority of views of these stories were within the first couple of days of their appearance, most of my readers would have got confused, annoyed, disgusted, etc. This is not putting too many i's in 'bikiini', this is getting characters significantly wrong - perhaps enough to change their voting attitude, I don't know.
 
...this is getting characters significantly wrong - perhaps enough to change their voting attitude, I don't know.

Yes. I inadvertently changed a name midstream in a short story, and got two comments about it. Obviously no direct evidence it affected the vote, but given that I was scolded about it, I would suspect it did. I submitted an edit, and a month later it finally propagated.
 
I don't understand all of the angst expressed over submitting an edit to an existing story.

If the mistake(s) bothers you enough, correct your source file and then resubmit it as an edit. The process is not that challenging, but it can take a while to see the new submission.

So what? The original story remains up, receiving views, votes, and comments while the edit is processed.

Is the desire for instant gratification the motivating factor behind the criticism of edit process, or is there something else that I am missing?

The submission process already has enough friction for regular stories, from AI false positives to the pending hell that Lit enters from time to time. Submitting an edit has even more friction because it takes longer, plus there's already history in AH for submitting edits and them being rejected due to being spat out as AI, and then the story could get taken down because of it.
 
Agreed. This is a serious shortcoming. But, frankly, I sympathize as a former coder - editors are infuriatingly difficult to code! Especially difficult are editors which flag changes, a definite necessity for LitE to prevent after-the-fact editing as a moderation bypass.
I'm going to be a pedant and point out that this is a solved problem, and that components that can do this have been widely available for quite some time. There's no need for Lit's army of tame Lemurs to write their own when they could choose a well-supported, feature-rich, likely open-source component to do it for them.

Sadly, that's another Universe, not this one.
 
This is an annoyance for me, probably because I hold myself to a high standard and find myself thinking, "I should have caught this thing, I know better!" Part of this comes too from the fact that I'm directing the whole thing, so there's a sort of pressure to get it right--nobody else is going to do it for me.

I'm still kind of embarrassed at mixing up lie/lay/lied, or using a present progressive tense when I needed the past tense.

I think Lit readers are forgiving of a lot of these things. My most popular story had a lot of errors like this and I never got chewed out over it.
It's worse when you come up with cool character moments for a story you've already published.
That's a big fear I have when publishing. One solution is to walk away from the finished product and let it sit, to give time for new ideas to trickle in. But I don't want to sit on the thing forever either--I'm too excited to share it!
 
I was poking around my account and somehow found myself re-reading my highest rated story. I get to the second page and I found two OBVIOUS errors. I must have gone over that story at least 3 times including using MS Word spell and grammar check and yet I totally missed those two. Bothers me because it was almost flawless. Ugh!
Happens to me all the time. Laurel probably hates me for how often I post edited chapters. They take a long time to post. Just submit and try to forget! Good luck!
 
but not necessarily in the purchased package they built the site upon
Given the number of "solved problems" the site has, it's extremely doubtful that it was built on a purchased package. Much more likely it grew organically from a home grown system. It has been tinkered with, but as with any bag of potatoes, you push in a lump somewhere, and a new lump appears elsewhere...
 
Given the number of "solved problems" the site has, it's extremely doubtful that it was built on a purchased package. Much more likely it grew organically from a home grown system. It has been tinkered with, but as with any bag of potatoes, you push in a lump somewhere, and a new lump appears elsewhere...

As is the case with any organically developed system. Always the decision, "Do we fix, or do we toss it out and start over?" Been the victim of that so many times I can't count 'em. There's never the perfect "right solution".
 
That's a big fear I have when publishing. One solution is to walk away from the finished product and let it sit, to give time for new ideas to trickle in. But I don't want to sit on the thing forever either--I'm too excited to share it!
Yep! I'm trying to exercise more patience in this regard.
 
Some writers have taken stories down and published updated versions as new.
I've considered this, but the last thing I need is to take a story down only for it to get false-positived as AI or some other nonsense when I try to submit the updated version. I'm better off just living with the missed opportunity.
 
Some writers have taken stories down and published updated versions as new.
I made some pretty heavy revisions to Scale Servicing. I liked it and wanted to like it more. In the interest of transparency, I put a note at the top with a date indicating as such. I was hesitant to repost it because I didn't want followers to think, "Oh, this one again?" But I could also see a legitimate case for doing so too.

Another thing I really hate is when I edit one thing and it breaks something else. šŸ˜…
 
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