Fox News is not real news. And you’re not a real reporter

[Sean Renaud]

Failed policy? Nope. I'll own that shit all day and all night.

 

[BotanyBoy]

It seems that the second amendment wording is one of the most popular passages for purposely misreading. Like the word "militia" being interpreted as just any man, woman, or child.

mi·li·tia
məˈliSHə/Submit
noun
a military force that is raised from the civil population to supplement a regular army in an emergency.

You can look up moar.....there are a few definitions out there that don't specifically lay it out but the vast majority of definitions you will find on militia tell you that it's in fact a sad sad military force of desperation comprised of civilians. AKA anyone able to shoulder a rifle and send bad juju their best.

To the original framers of the Constitution, "the people" pretty much meant white guys who owned property.

Yea but today it means every individual.....unless lefty reading 2A. That's the ONLY place in the constitution lefty sees "The people" and CLEARLY reads "Cops on special assignment and deployed military forces only".

Kinda like education/regulation is the liburhul answer for most every social issue...and it works really well almost universally.

Except guns, they want to ban ban BAN bayonet lugs, pistol grips and buttstocks on rifles because such a bad handgun problem!! Because prohibition is the BEST!!

LMFAO.

Very sad on a day when four Marines are killed by a Muslim terrorist that Liberals think this clown is a "hero" People of SF should be ashamed.

The fuck?

Oh no marines got shot better not criticize RW anything!!

The people who support FOX should be ashamed.......not the people of SF.

 

[gotsnowgotslush]

FOX sells soap. (Advertising, as every other media outlet does.)

Today, Trump is King of the Hill of Garbage

Trump is attention whoring for his alliance, and for himself.
Who needs honor, integrity, honesty and the respect of this nation ?
Trump will never skip a meal, or tighten his belt because of cash flow.

Trump is good at performance art. He is good at getting attention.
If there is anything that is consistent about Rupert Murdoch's empire,
it is that it thrives on attention.

On the other hand, if there is anything that can deflect unwanted interference, it is money, lawyers, influence, and an alliance. The Murdoch empire has providied itself with all that it needs to continue as a dynasty.

The loop is complete. FOX has chosen the side that generates outrage.
(and garbage.)

On the opposite side, stands the President of the United States.
President Obama has dignity. He does honor to the office.
He appeals to the better side of our human nature.
President Obama walks a fine line.
The mark is fairness.

President Obama agreed to serve, even though racists wanted to lynch him.

We had a FOX attention whore for President.
Everyone was a "turd blossom," in G.W. Bush's eyes.
He gave his supporters something to laugh about.
He was performance artist, a selfish S.O.B., a rotter.
G.W. did not lose support, even as his fake Texas accent
dropped, and his university educated voice rose.

Is a Harvard M.B.A. appropriate training for the (G.B. Bush ) presidency? And how much of George W. Bush, presidential candidate, is really a reflection of his Harvard years?

In his autobiography, ''A Charge To Keep'' (William Morrow & Company, 1999), Mr. Bush mentions his time at Harvard only briefly, calling it ''a turning point for me'' that taught ''the principles of capital, how it is accumulated, risked, spent, managed.''

"Classmates and professors say that while the raw elements of Bush management were in place when he arrived at Harvard, business school had a significant role in melding his style."

http://www.nytimes.com/2000/06/18/b...ss-school-and-the-makings-of-a-president.html

(How very strange it is, to have a FOX attention whore, feeding the notion to people that President Obama is too "wordy."

From Jeb Bush-

"You don’t have to be the world’s policeman, but we have to be the world’s leader—and there’s a huge difference."

"This guy, this president and Secretary Clinton and Secretary Kerry. when someone disagrees with their nuanced approach—where it’s all kind of so sophisticated it makes no sense, you know what I’m saying? "

"Big-syllable words and lots of fancy conferences and meetings—but we’re not leading, that creates chaos, it creates a more dangerous world."


Jeb Bush is addressing a particular audience. This audience wants a simple, direct solution, to a complex situation. Is Jeb hinting that he is "one of them, " just as G.W. was "one of them "? That Jeb is willing to hide his true 1% elite position in life, and put on a cowboy costume, as his brother did ? Promise the FOX audience that Regean Days are here, again ?

G.W fed into racism , hatred, selfishness.
G.W. fed into the worst of human nature.

Is Jeb Bush hinting at the premise that he is on the side of the West and the South, and against the godless, multicultural, liberal East ?

Daddy Herbert Bush is up in Maine, with a broken neck.
No one will burden Herbert with hauling the GOP up the hill, this time.
But, his old ancient face is up on the TV screen and in the newspapers to remind us of the good old days, when his was by Ronald Reagan's side.

 

[BotanyBoy]

Yes yes all the leftists are happy that someone stood up to Fox News....it's much better then taking responsibility for a failed policy.

Says the man who eats from the hands of illegal immigrants more than likely, DAILY.


So yea I'm with sean, it's not a failed policy, it's a mandatory policy.

 

[JawnKarTurr]

Says the man who eats from the hands of illegal immigrants more than likely, DAILY.


So yea I'm with sean, it's not a failed policy, it's a mandatory policy.

Yes the difference is I don't like exploiting people, and you're enjoying the situation. For those on the left Brown is the new Black.

You don't even give a damn about the woman who was murdered she's just collateral damage while building a new voting base. It's not like a third of the federal prisoners are illegals, and they're not there for immigration issues but for murder rape and drugs.

You're on the wrong side of this, but everyone knows why.

 

[BotanyBoy]

Yes the difference is I don't like exploiting people, and you're enjoying the situation.

You don't like to eat??

For those on the left Brown is the new Black.

Clarify exactly what you mean by this.

I'm also pretty sure Orange, not brown is the new Black.

You don't even give a damn about the woman who was murdered she's just collateral damage while building a new voting base.

No she's collateral damage for not destabilizing the American economy. Besides far more US citizens kill each other than illegal immigrants kill US citizens.

It's not like a third of the federal prisoners are illegals, and they're not there for immigration issues but for murder rape and drugs.

If they have been convicted of crimes then prison is where they belong. But reality is without illegal immigrants you couldn't afford the life you live.

You're on the wrong side of this, but everyone knows why.

How am I on the wrong side of this?

 

[JawnKarTurr]

Such wonderful mean spiritedness from the left....but that's to be expected it's different when they do it. Policies fail, plans don't work it's all just water under the bridge and once everyone forgets we'll make it happen with more of other people's money.

https://s-media-cache-ak0.pinimg.com/736x/0d/af/84/0daf842a60a5dc8e5512e97f73199787.jpg

 

[Diplomats]

biased reporting

The mere fact that the news in the United States has such a political bias to its reporting means by its very nature it is not news. It is opinion pieces. Fox News is a great source of information if you want to hear what you already agree with.
Obama Bad
Republican Good
National Healthcare = Communism
Private Healthcare = Democracy
Guns good
Gun Control bad

and so on.

For "Liberal media" just reverse the above and off you go.

 

[BotanyBoy]

Really?

Got some bad news for you and the cold war era crew bub.....America has been socialist for quite some time now, America loves socialism and you benefit largely from it.
http://i.imgur.com/2MTQrQf.gif

 

[Sean Renaud]

Yes the difference is I don't like exploiting people, and you're enjoying the situation. For those on the left Brown is the new Black.

You don't even give a damn about the woman who was murdered she's just collateral damage while building a new voting base. It's not like a third of the federal prisoners are illegals, and they're not there for immigration issues but for murder rape and drugs.

You're on the wrong side of this, but everyone knows why.

Oh come off not liking to exploit people. We all do and if we didn't we change our policies. We wouldn't buy products that aren't made in America (or at least Europe) and companies making shit in China and Taiwan would be unable to make any money because nobody would buy their products. We would be willing to pay a few more cents for our food to pay actual Americans do it.

She is collateral damage, and even that's not an accurate term. She's really just an unfortunate statistic. Shit happens and it's as simple as that. Nobody is building a new voting base, for starters these people cannot vote and statistics suggest that even if they could they probably wouldn't. I'd love for you to pull up the stats on how many illegals are in prison for murder and rape. Nobody should be in jail over drugs, that's just our system being broken.

Nope,you're on the wrong side of this. The reality is that the damage done in the opposite direction would be and in fact is far greater. Nobody wants illegals in the country. However we do need the labor, and when you have communities that are afraid to call the police they start policing themselves and that's no good for anybody.

Such wonderful mean spiritedness from the left....but that's to be expected it's different when they do it. Policies fail, plans don't work it's all just water under the bridge and once everyone forgets we'll make it happen with more of other people's money.

https://s-media-cache-ak0.pinimg.com/736x/0d/af/84/0daf842a60a5dc8e5512e97f73199787.jpg

Oh quit pretending you're a delicate little flower. First anybody with a brain knows that in general the Right is much more mean spirited than the left. It doesn't really matter what level you'r looking at. Sure we're capable of douche baggery but we seem to do it less.

Yes there are failed policies, this however is not one of them. Plans do fail, but this particular one is working about as well as could be hoped for. Oh and other people's money? Sorry it's stops being your money when you get taxed. At that point it our money.

 

[JawnKarTurr]

Really?

Got some bad news for you and the cold war era crew bub.....America has been socialist for quite some time now, America loves socialism and you benefit largely from it.
http://i.imgur.com/2MTQrQf.gif

Yes if we had a bottomless pit of money some of the socialist programs might actually work too. It's more like fascism light in this country. Don't like it you're an enemy of the state and quislings like you are happy to call people Nazis or racists or whatever.

 

[JawnKarTurr]

Glad to hear you want to change our policies. We shouldn't important anything into the country if the exporter doesn't meet our standards for wages and work place safety. I've noticed so many people like you will rail against conditions at home, but long as they don't see it it's perfectly fine.


One of many sites and even liberal ones have a hard time denying it.
http://www.citizensforlaws.org/index.php?option=com_content&view=article&id=76&Itemid=101


Wow....I'll have to remember that during the next gun control debate when the victims families are trotted out. She's just a statistic really...lol Now as to the voting you're probably the only person on the left believing that line of BS. You made us Citizen we vote for you to the end of time....regardless of how bad of a job you do. Well until the law changes they're in jail for drug crimes which often in my experience include a host of other things. Live in a bubble much? Violence comes with the drug trade it isn't all just friendly people getting along. Your nativity isn't surprising.

Sorry no...we'll get along without them, but you might actually have to pay contractors and food providers a little more. I mean you might actually have to cut your own grass. We'll survive and I think legal immigrants will only prosper when they don't have to compete with those breaking the rules. Yes yes it's a shame criminals can't call the police.



Really now every time a liberal opens their mouths I listen for the idiotic or comedic thing that will be said next. It could be a serious issue, but without fail more times then not it's the wrong way to handle the situation.


Wow you're not ever a good leftist. It's the people money being spent on their behalf for their needs. We elect people to represent us and they're supposed to follow the people's direction. If they see a better route they have to sell it to the people. I guess your more of a hardcore communist where the government says they're for the people, but their thoughts don't matter.

Your a special kind of stupid, and that I don't care for.

 

[BotanyBoy]

Yes if we had a bottomless pit of money some of the socialist programs might actually work too.

Most of them do work and don't need a bottomless pit of money.

It's more like fascism light in this country.

Why because you have to pay taxes? Awwwwww booo fuckin' hooo....if you don't like it you're free to move to any 3rd world shit hole you want at any time.

But you wont, you will stay in the US and love all the socialism you enjoy every day.

Don't like it you're an enemy of the state and quislings like you are happy to call people Nazis or racists or whatever.

I pay taxes, served my country and abide by the law.....how am I an enemy of the state?

No I call people nazis and racist when they are acting like racist nazis.

Glad to hear you want to change our policies. We shouldn't important anything into the country if the exporter doesn't meet our standards for wages and work place safety. I've noticed so many people like you will rail against conditions at home, but long as they don't see it it's perfectly fine.

Wait you want safe work place conditions and standard wages? LOL careful you sound like a liburhul!!

Wow....I'll have to remember that during the next gun control debate when the victims families are trotted out. She's just a statistic really...lol

You should, it's the only honest argument you have..... and it would garner far more respect than "It's to keep the government at bay!!" bullshit.

 

[Sean Renaud]

Yes if we had a bottomless pit of money some of the socialist programs might actually work too. It's more like fascism light in this country. Don't like it you're an enemy of the state and quislings like you are happy to call people Nazis or racists or whatever.

You understand that in reality we do have what amounts to a bottomless pit of money, and plenty of socialist programs work just fine both here and abroad. Yes, there are racists and 'Nazis' but I fail to see how that applies to this conversation.

Glad to hear you want to change our policies. We shouldn't important anything into the country if the exporter doesn't meet our standards for wages and work place safety. I've noticed so many people like you will rail against conditions at home, but long as they don't see it it's perfectly fine.

No, you've never noticed that. While yes I do want to gradually shift the harm done by dropping trade with those countries would easily outweigh any potential good. And no it's not about ignoring it when you don't see it, it's about me being American means I look out for Americans first.

One of many sites and even liberal ones have a hard time denying it.
http://www.citizensforlaws.org/index.php?option=com_content&view=article&id=76&Itemid=101

Interesting, of course they don't source it but lets pretend I believe it. Oh teh well.

Wow....I'll have to remember that during the next gun control debate when the victims families are trotted out. She's just a statistic really...lol Now as to the voting you're probably the only person on the left believing that line of BS. You made us Citizen we vote for you to the end of time....regardless of how bad of a job you do. Well until the law changes they're in jail for drug crimes which often in my experience include a host of other things. Live in a bubble much? Violence comes with the drug trade it isn't all just friendly people getting along. Your nativity isn't surprising.

She is a statistic shit happens, the gun debate is an entirely different debate.

No, I'm not the only person left who knows these people can't vote, and even if they could most of them wouldn't. The ones who do vote are not voting because they were made citizens anyway. It's a matter of economic policies and the fact that the right can't stop saying racist shit.

Yes, violence comes with the drug trade because it's illegal. Notice how much violence comes with the tobacco and alcohol trade? Oh, very little in the grand scheme of things? Exactly. And yes until we change our unjust laws they are in jail for breaking the law. That doesn't make the law just nor does it absolve us from the costs of having such a bad policy.

Sorry no...we'll get along without them, but you might actually have to pay contractors and food providers a little more. I mean you might actually have to cut your own grass. We'll survive and I think legal immigrants will only prosper when they don't have to compete with those breaking the rules. Yes yes it's a shame criminals can't call the police.

We'd have one hell of a time getting by without them. Most of us have never even lived in a world where we didn't have them to lean on. Which is actually beside the point.

Really now every time a liberal opens their mouths I listen for the idiotic or comedic thing that will be said next. It could be a serious issue, but without fail more times then not it's the wrong way to handle the situation.

Yeah, you've got liberals and conservatives flipped there friend. Almost without fail I have to wonder how someone gets to be an adult and still believes most of their bullshit.

Wow you're not ever a good leftist. It's the people money being spent on their behalf for their needs. We elect people to represent us and they're supposed to follow the people's direction. If they see a better route they have to sell it to the people. I guess your more of a hardcore communist where the government says they're for the people, but their thoughts don't matter.

Your a special kind of stupid, and that I don't care for.

No, they are not supposed to follow the people's direction. They are supposed to lead. That's why they are called leaders. We get to choose new ones at regular intervals but against history shows that we generally speaking do not for any number of reasons but it really boils down to if it ain't broke don't fuck with it.

But they sold you on the better route for the duration of their term by virtue of being elected. If that makes me a commie by all means I'm a commie. I don't really care especially since in America commie and socialist don't even have real meanings. It's just a slur.

 

[about_average]

It's not like a third of the federal prisoners are illegals, and they're not there for immigration issues but for murder rape and drugs.

Exactly, it's not like that.

At the end of 2013 there were 215,866 federal prisoners. 25,800 were non-citizens. That number includes legal aliens arrested and illegal aliens arrested for immigration violations.

But even if 100% of them were in prison for rape, murder and drugs you're still using Fox math to think 25,800 is 33.3% of 215,866

http://www.bjs.gov/content/pub/pdf/p13.pdf

 

[about_average]

One of many sites and even liberal ones have a hard time denying it.
http://www.citizensforlaws.org/index.php?option=com_content&view=article&id=76&Itemid=101

It's interesting they don't cite sources for any of their "facts".

 

[JawnKarTurr]

Exactly, it's not like that.

At the end of 2013 there were 215,866 federal prisoners. 25,800 were non-citizens. That number includes legal aliens arrested and illegal aliens arrested for immigration violations.

But even if 100% of them were in prison for rape, murder and drugs you're still using Fox math to think 25,800 is 33.3% of 215,866

http://www.bjs.gov/content/pub/pdf/p13.pdf

Actually the source wasn't Fox, but you'd know that if you actually did research. Anyway I was looking over the document you posted and I find it to be interesting where was it they mention immigration status in it exactly?

Yes I know Fox News Bad....lol

http://www.factcheck.org/2009/04/cost-of-illegal-immigrants/

 

[JawnKarTurr]

@ Sean Renaud

I have a life and you don't, but it's pretty clear to me people's observations that you're out of your mind are pretty much spot on. Whatever the sky is in your world I hope you enjoy it. People like you are responsible or ignoring so many of our countries problems I won't waste any more of my time on convincing you otherwise. Not sure if you're a clown or a dangerous fool.

 

[Sean Renaud]

Actually the source wasn't Fox, but you'd know that if you actually did research. Anyway I was looking over the document you posted and I find it to be interesting where was it they mention immigration status in it exactly?

Yes I know Fox News Bad....lol

http://www.factcheck.org/2009/04/cost-of-illegal-immigrants/

The accusation was about using Fox Math, or Conservative math since we've used that around here on several occasions.

@ Sean Renaud

I have a life and you don't, but it's pretty clear to me people's observations that you're out of your mind are pretty much spot on. Whatever the sky is in your world I hope you enjoy it. People like you are responsible or ignoring so many of our countries problems I won't waste any more of my time on convincing you otherwise. Not sure if you're a clown or a dangerous fool.

A dangerous fool, well actually someone who is concerned with the facts and truth rather than being a histrionic bitch. I'm not ignoring any problem, I simply don't think your plans for how to solve them or even your understanding of what the real problems are is remotely accurate.

 

[JawnKarTurr]

Sure sean whatever....you're being over emotional I simply have better things to do.


Oh and don't lie about being a veteran. I find it to be offensive and pathetic.

 

[Sean Renaud]

I'm not emotional at all, nor am I lying about being a Marine. You're free to think that mind you it's not like I can hope in your head and set your shit straight.

 

[about_average]

Actually the source wasn't Fox, but you'd know that if you actually did research.

You mean research like you did before spouting bullshit?
I never said you got it from fox, I merely said you're using Fox math.

Thanks for admitting you were wrong, at least you have the integrity and...oh, ummm, never mind..

 

[JawnKarTurr]

You mean research like you did before spouting bullshit?
I never said you got it from fox, I merely said you're using Fox math.

Thanks for admitting you were wrong, at least you have the integrity and...oh, ummm, never mind..

Facts you don't like are bullshit I got it. Understanding people like you really isn't very hard.

 

[JawnKarTurr]

I'm not emotional at all, nor am I lying about being a Marine. You're free to think that mind you it's not like I can hope in your head and set your shit straight.

Imbalanced would be a better way to classify you, but that's for someone else. You're easier to laugh at....I think you're referring to brainwashing, no but thanks I think you've drank enough cool aid for everyone.


https://youtu.be/lCis1U1nFR0

 

[Sean Renaud]

It's only brainwashing if you disagree with it. That said who doesn't love Kool-Ade, you really need to bring your A game if you're going to try and get under my skin Comrade Jackass.

No, facts that people don't like are not by definition bullshit. Made up facts that don't reflect reality are bullshit. Like your fairies and love economic and immigration plan.