Free Association Thread 5

[JKendallDane]

Really? 30 minutes later and you skip a post that was obviously there?

Yes, because you keep changing the previous person's words.

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[Handley_Page]

Whistling in the dark

Dancing in the Dark

 

[AnAngelReally]

Dancing in the Dark

Brain Damage / Eclipse
We all told our children NOT to look directly at the sun.
What did Donald Trump do? Yep! The moron looked at the eclipse.
Talk about brain damaged.

 

[JKendallDane]

Brain Damage / Eclipse
We all told our children NOT to look directly at the sun.
What did Donald Trump do? Yep! The moron looked at the eclipse.
Talk about brain damaged.

Some people are like Icarus and have to learn the hard way.

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[Handley_Page]

Some people are like Icarus and have to learn the hard way.

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You know how that, on occasions, there will be someone who has simplt not heard about a thing?
Well, when we last enjoyed a proper eclipse, a young lady in England was admitted to hospital complaining of headaches and an inability to see.
She'd watched the eclipse, in complete ignorance of the problems of the light.
Silly Girl.

 

[Emmeline]

You know how that, on occasions, there will be someone who has simplt not heard about a thing?
Well, when we last enjoyed a proper eclipse, a young lady in England was admitted to hospital complaining of headaches and an inability to see.
She'd watched the eclipse, in complete ignorance of the problems of the light.
Silly Girl.

Blinded by the Light

 

[MagicaPractica]

Blinded by the Light

"I have seen the light!"

 

[Tio_Narratore]

"I have seen the light!"

Maybe there's a god above
All I ever learned from love
Was how to shoot at someone who outdrew you
And it's not a cry you can hear at night
Not somebody who's seen the light
It's a cold and it's a broken hallelujah

-Leonard Cohen

 

[latecomer91364]

Maybe there's a god above
All I ever learned from love
Was how to shoot at someone who outdrew you
And it's not a cry you can hear at night
Not somebody who's seen the light
It's a cold and it's a broken hallelujah

-Leonard Cohen

His best work. From the same man who later admitted that his line from Chelsea Hotel#2: "Giving me head on the unmade bed", was in reference to Janis Joplin.

 

[Trumpire]

His best work. From the same man who later admitted that his line from Chelsea Hotel#2: "Giving me head on the unmade bed", was in reference to Janis Joplin.

I think I've heard/read some Chelsea stories by Steve Tyler, Elvis Costello, or both. But whenever I read about it, one of the first things to come to my head is "Chelsea Walls".

 

[SamScribble]

I think I've heard/read some Chelsea stories by Steve Tyler, Elvis Costello, or both. But whenever I read about it, one of the first things to come to my head is "Chelsea Walls".

'Chelsea Girls' (1966)

 

[JKendallDane]

'Chelsea Girls' (1966)

Georgy Girl

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[AnAngelReally]

Dickens Dublin - Loreena McKennitt

 

[latecomer91364]

Dickens Dublin - Loreena McKennitt

Wow! I seriously was just thinking about that little punk orphan simpering up to his master, whining for 'more'. Got what was coming to him, that one did, yeah.

 

[SamScribble]

Wow! I seriously was just thinking about that little punk orphan simpering up to his master, whining for 'more'. Got what was coming to him, that one did, yeah.

If you don't ask ...

 

[JKendallDane]

If you don't ask ...

Ask me no questions and I'll tell you no lies.

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[Tio_Narratore]

Ask me no questions and I'll tell you no lies.

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Alternative Facts

 

[latecomer91364]

Alternative Facts

Is that the same as Fake News?

 

[Handley_Page]

Is that the same as Fake News?

That's a slur on the language !

 

[latecomer91364]

That's a slur on the language !

Okay, I'll bite: WHAT is a slur on the language (stated with an exclamation point, no less)?

 

[Tio_Narratore]

Okay, I'll bite: WHAT is a slur on the language (stated with an exclamation point, no less)?

Fairly clear, I'd say, latecomer. "News" refers to information; if it's fake, it's not news. The slur is abusing the word "news" for something that is mis-information rather than information. I presume you've read 1984 and are familiar with "double-plus-good duck-speak;" that is a slur on the language. "Fake news" can be considered an example of it, though some might consider it a useful new phrase.

As far as the exclamation mark goes, I presume it simply underscores HP's negative reaction to the term.

Need more than just this bite?

 

[latecomer91364]

Fairly clear, I'd say, latecomer. "News" refers to information; if it's fake, it's not news. The slur is abusing the word "news" for something that is mis-information rather than information. I presume you've read 1984 and are familiar with "double-plus-good duck-speak;" that is a slur on the language. "Fake news" can be considered an example of it, though some might consider it a useful new phrase.

As far as the exclamation mark goes, I presume it simply underscores HP's negative reaction to the term.

Need more than just this bite?

Semantics. If a person tries to pass off a cubic zirconium as a real diamond, it can be referred to as a 'fake diamond', based on that which it is pretending to be. Misleading stories espousing perhaps a debunked 'fact' or claiming something as fact which turns out to be a lie, are in essence, attempting to pass something that is not factual as news.

Like this:

http://www.snopes.com/cnn-same-refugee-girl/

You can argue all day about what it should be called, but 'fake news' is what has made its way into common parlance.

 

[JKendallDane]

Semantics. If a person tries to pass off a cubic zirconium as a real diamond, it can be referred to as a 'fake diamond', based on that which it is pretending to be. Misleading stories espousing perhaps a debunked 'fact' or claiming something as fact which turns out to be a lie, are in essence, attempting to pass something that is not factual as news.

Like this:

http://www.snopes.com/cnn-same-refugee-girl/

You can argue all day about what it should be called, but 'fake news' is what has made its way into common parlance.

And unfortunately, the term has become heavily misused for what some people want to be seen as "fake news" instead of what actually is fake news.

Which leads me to wonder: When "fake news" gets debunked, does that make it fake "fake news" or what?

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[SamScribble]

And unfortunately, the term has become heavily misused for what some people want to be seen as "fake news" instead of what actually is fake news.

Which leads me to wonder: When "fake news" gets debunked, does that make it fake "fake news" or what?

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Although ... don't two negatives make a positive, JKD?

 

[Tio_Narratore]

Semantics. If a person tries to pass off a cubic zirconium as a real diamond, it can be referred to as a 'fake diamond', based on that which it is pretending to be. Misleading stories espousing perhaps a debunked 'fact' or claiming something as fact which turns out to be a lie, are in essence, attempting to pass something that is not factual as news.

Like this:

http://www.snopes.com/cnn-same-refugee-girl/

You can argue all day about what it should be called, but 'fake news' is what has made its way into common parlance.

For some, it's not a "fake diamond," to them, it's an "imitation diamond." I did note that some consider "fake news" to be a useful term. Others would consider it an insult to the language. I wouldn't argue it myself, since language is what the speakers make of it, not the academicians. I was merely trying to answer your query, not about "fake news," but about what HP meant by calling it "a slur on the language!"

"Semantics," you say? So casually used to dismiss an interpretation, but give it some thought. "Semantics" refers to the meaning of what we write or utter; to dismiss things as being "semantics" is, perhaps, to declare that meaning is meaningless. Some would consider this use of the term "semantics" as an abuse, a slur on the language.

You're welcome, latecomer.