Freedom Care

[Ramone45]

This doesn't seem right You get paid for taking care of your elderly parent through medicaid. Where does it stop? Mothers should get paid too then , right. To me, cut taxes DRASTICALLY and put the money back in people's pockets where it belongs. I trust people WAY more than he government.

 

[BotanyBoy]

Where does it stop?

The same place it always stops, when it runs out of other peoples money to spend.

 

[EternalFantasies]

This doesn't seem right You get paid for taking care of your elderly parent through medicaid. Where does it stop? Mothers should get paid too then , right. To me, cut taxes DRASTICALLY and put the money back in people's pockets where it belongs. I trust people WAY more than he government.

Wait plz explain this to me.

Coz it seems to me it goes through medicaid so as that makes sure there is a need to be spent on maybe?

 

[Hypoxia]

Get your medical work done at McDonald's.

Fast, cheap, and consistent.

Private enterprise will cure all ailments.

 

[pointless]

you have no idea what you're fucking talking about.

 

[Ramone45]

you have no idea what you're fucking talking about.

Don't be so nasty, you fuck face. As far as I can figure out, if you have a family member who is eligible for long term care under Medicaid, instead of paying a care giver, a family member can get the dough. So, in other words, you now get paid by your fellow citizens to do stuff you should be doing anyways.

 

[phrodeau]

Don't be so nasty, you fuck face. As far as I can figure out, if you have a family member who is eligible for long term care under Medicaid, instead of paying a care giver, a family member can get the dough. So, in other words, you now get paid by your fellow citizens to do stuff you should be doing anyways.

So people should be caring for their indigent relatives for free instead of being employed? That would be a neat trick if it could be done.

 

[Hypoxia]

So medically untrained people should be caring for their indigent relatives (needing urgent care) for free instead of being gainfully employed taxpayers? That would be a neat trick if it could be done.

Fixed. Sure. And put their kids to work tending the meth cookers.

 

[WoundedKnee]

Don't be so nasty, you fuck face. As far as I can figure out, if you have a family member who is eligible for long term care under Medicaid, instead of paying a care giver, a family member can get the dough. So, in other words, you now get paid by your fellow citizens to do stuff you should be doing anyways.

Does it really matter that much who delivers the care when care in needed? My only objection is that I can see it opening up the patient's home to state inspection and the possible grief that they could render upon the caregiver.

 

[Ramone45]

So people should be caring for their indigent relatives for free instead of being employed? That would be a neat trick if it could be done.

why don't we pay parents for taking care of their kids then?

 

[WoundedKnee]

why don't we pay parents for taking care of their kids then?

Because we want to punish them for their sins of the past.

 

[Que]

why don't we pay parents for taking care of their kids then?

We do. That's why people get "back" more in taxes than they actually pay in. Earned income credit.

 

[phrodeau]

Yeah, you get to reduce your taxes by about $1,800 per child per year. So if you spend twenty hours a week caring for your kid, that comes to $1.80 an hour.

 

[Ramone45]

Yeah, you get to reduce your taxes by about $1,800 per child per year. So if you spend twenty hours a week caring for your kid, that comes to $1.80 an hour.

They're saying $11-$13 with $16.50-$19.50OT in my state. This can't all be paid by Medicaid, can it?

 

[JohnnySavage]

They're saying $11-$13 with $16.50-$19.50OT in my state. This can't all be paid by Medicaid, can it?

It would cost a lot more than that if the care was provided by an outside agency, or if the elderly/disabled person had to be put in a nursing home.

 

[Ramone45]

It would cost a lot more than that if the care was provided by an outside agency, or if the elderly/disabled person had to be put in a nursing home.

Yes. I'm trying to balance this. The way I look at it, my parents gave up everything to care for me when I was most vulnerable. Part of the family contract is that I would have an obligation to help them as much as possible. This is a sacrifice families have made since the dawn of time. It feels like "society" is interfering too much in our personal lives.

 

[phrodeau]

Yes. I'm trying to balance this. The way I look at it, my parents gave up everything to care for me when I was most vulnerable. Part of the family contract is that I would have an obligation to help them as much as possible. This is a sacrifice families have made since the dawn of time. It feels like "society" is interfering too much in our personal lives.

You don’t have to cash the checks.

 

[Ramone45]

It seems funny that people in my state were losing their minds because we just started paid family leave for babies and such, but I hadn't heard a peep about this until they started advertising it. I wonder if I'm misreading it. It says it's a Medicaid Program.

 

[richard_daily]

Yeah, you get to reduce your taxes by about $1,800 per child per year. So if you spend twenty hours a week caring for your kid, that comes to $1.80 an hour.

People like the OP and AJ had their parents spend about 30 minutes on them a week.

That works out to about $72 an hour. A decent union-level wage.

 

[WoundedKnee]

Yes. I'm trying to balance this. The way I look at it, my parents gave up everything to care for me when I was most vulnerable. Part of the family contract is that I would have an obligation to help them as much as possible. This is a sacrifice families have made since the dawn of time. It feels like "society" is interfering too much in our personal lives.

However, for the most pert, the nuclear family began dying in the 60s with increased mobility and other cultural factors. I think, imho, that anything that we can do to keep families together and the elderly in the home that they have become accustomed to is a value that cannot be measured in dollars.

 

[WoundedKnee]

Yeah, you get to reduce your taxes by about $1,800 per child per year. So if you spend twenty hours a week caring for your kid, that comes to $1.80 an hour.

It's about $.21 an hour $1800/365.25/24. Parenting is 24/7, especially for a stay-at-home mom. Thank you Dr. Nye.

 

[Ramone45]

However, for the most pert, the nuclear family began dying in the 60s with increased mobility and other cultural factors. I think, imho, that anything that we can do to keep families together and the elderly in the home that they have become accustomed to is a value that cannot be measured in dollars.

I'm not trying to be offensive, just pointing out a different point of view. "anything WE can do..." Who's we? "A value that cannot be measured in dollars..." No limits?

 

[WoundedKnee]

I'm not trying to be offensive, just pointing out a different point of view. "anything WE can do..." Who's we? "A value that cannot be measured in dollars..." No limits?

I'm not offended. It's an interesting topic compared to most of the bilge here. I need a few more words in order to answer your question though (unless, of course, it is rhetorical).

 

[Ramone45]

I understand what you mean about the shift away from the traditional nuclear family.

 

[WoundedKnee]

I am a family of one. There should be a tax break for that. I take care of me 24/7.