Gary Johnson

[4est_4est_Gump]

You cannot, to paraphrase Machiavelli (very loosely), pretend to inclusion by openly practicing exclusion which is why Trump was in Mexico and Detroit.

 

[Que]

The goal of maintaining the political duopoly would seem to be paramount to both sides of the duopoly. Much more important than deciding which of its two figurehead candidates wins a particular election. Even a presidential election.

The Whigs wholeheartedly agree. Keep those damned upstarts in their place.

 

[BotanyBoy]

If third party candidates really and truly cannot be elected, then what's the harm in including them in debates?

The mantra of "third party can't win!! Pick D or R!!" would be broken and that would be bad for someone.

 

[patient1]

Well, if it was a trial balloon from the campaign, Trump isn't having any of it.
Or maybe it was just a leak to set this up....


http://www.politico.com/story/2016/09/trump-will-debate-clinton-2016-227739


Trump: Only natural disasters will keep me from debating Clinton


By Hanna Trudo

09/05/16 02:16 PM EDT
Republican presidential nominee Donald Trump said Monday that he has an “obligation” to go head-to-head with his rival Hillary Clinton in all three upcoming general election debates.

“I think you have an obligation to do the debates. I did them with the other, you know, the other cases. We had, I guess 11 debates,” Trump said about the Republican primary debates that helped elevate his bid for the nomination against 16 Republican opponents.


Read more: http://www.politico.com/story/2016/09/trump-will-debate-clinton-2016-227739#ixzz4JQ4B8QSx
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I thought that yesterday's approach was the smart one for Trump, the tough guy outsider populist challenging the status quo, and not afraid to stand his ground against all challengers. Besides, it helps better position him for Trump TV or the Trump News Network after this.

 

[4est_4est_Gump]

That's what he said yesterday...

 

[patient1]

Back to the topic of the polls sanctioned by the CPD as qualifying, NBC/WSJ and ABC/Washington post are two of the official ones, but instead of doing those we get NBC/Survey Monkey and Washington Post/Survey Monkey state by state poll. NBC puts him at 12%, and the WP wasn't the same sampling everywhere, but my averaging of the ten most populous states puts it at 11.3% That's a big improvement over the 8% in the official poll a month ago. So they can afford to take polls, just not the official ones.

Meanwhile CNN came out with an official poll which has him down at 7%. The trouble is that the age break down of Millennials has N/A . Margins of error in the 8-8.5% range. Well, that and the two PACS supporting him have been spending on media and ads targeting Millennials. Other polls suggest that the recent trends are late deciders breaking towards Trump, and Millennials towards Johnson.

Well, this CNN poll sets up a "Johnson fading, won't make debates narrative".

 

[renard_ruse]

Johnson is a turd.

And I would say that even if he wasn't being pushed by the media to supposedly take votes from Trump (its questionable whether he really would take more votes from Trump than Clinton, or take equally from both).

I don't like that guy or his "wing" of the Libertarian Party. He's not a real libertarian, he's corrupt, and he's a career politician. He's definitely no Ron or Rand Paul, not in terms of beliefs, not in terms of honesty and integrity, and not in terms of being a decent human being.

Beyond that the Libertarian Party itself is a kooky fringe party if there ever was one. Not that I have a problem with "kooky fringe" parties, I can rather partial toward such parties in general, but the average person seems to hate those sorts of parties. Once they find out how fringe and wacky the Libertarian Party is (even though Johnson is a phony libertarian) I think they will revert back to the low single digits as usual.

 

[renard_ruse]

Vote Clinton, Trump, Stein, or Castle.

NEVER JOHNSON! FLUSH THE TURD!

 

[BotanyBoy]

Renard hates freedom again.

Would rather support a democrat.

That's shocking.

 

[thør]

Vote Clinton, Trump, Stein, or Castle.

NEVER JOHNSON! FLUSH THE TURD!

What's the order?

Your order?

From worst to best?

 

[patient1]

Vote Clinton, Trump, Stein, or Castle.

NEVER JOHNSON! FLUSH THE TURD!

As a newbie, you probably don't realize that Litizens have something in common with Libertarians- we don't like being told what to do.

 

[4est_4est_Gump]

Back to the topic of the polls sanctioned by the CPD as qualifying, NBC/WSJ and ABC/Washington post are two of the official ones, but instead of doing those we get NBC/Survey Monkey and Washington Post/Survey Monkey state by state poll. NBC puts him at 12%, and the WP wasn't the same sampling everywhere, but my averaging of the ten most populous states puts it at 11.3% That's a big improvement over the 8% in the official poll a month ago. So they can afford to take polls, just not the official ones.

Meanwhile CNN came out with an official poll which has him down at 7%. The trouble is that the age break down of Millennials has N/A . Margins of error in the 8-8.5% range. Well, that and the two PACS supporting him have been spending on media and ads targeting Millennials. Other polls suggest that the recent trends are late deciders breaking towards Trump, and Millennials towards Johnson.

Well, this CNN poll sets up a "Johnson fading, won't make debates narrative".

PurplePac is doing his TV buys, but I heard his radio spot yesterday and I thought I might bring this up in the appropriate venue...



What exactly do you think a Johnson weld would be?

 

[Adre]

Just saw Johnson and Weld on CBS morning show, they're a likable pair. It's too bad that the Republican Party has no place for a Weld.

 

[imhere_4fun]

http://s2.quickmeme.com/img/8a/8a7b8c5dfe06a6a747bdd49997c3a0bb248e1d3282f5ffaf5ecf96c6fd5ce528.jpg

Haha!

 

[patient1]

PurplePac is doing his TV buys, but I heard his radio spot yesterday and I thought I might bring this up in the appropriate venue...



What exactly do you think a Johnson weld would be?

I would assume that it's something patented by Johnson Controls for circuits and capillary tubes.

 

[patient1]

Americans Deserve Better SuerPAC found that it could double support for Johnson by running these TV ads for 2 weeks in a test congressional district.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=o2Y9NOXhZyg

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1JlBByr0ISg

 

[4est_4est_Gump]

I was thinking more like something that sticks your shorts to your pubes...

 

[PeteHulbert37]

Johnson is a turd.

And I would say that even if he wasn't being pushed by the media to supposedly take votes from Trump (its questionable whether he really would take more votes from Trump than Clinton, or take equally from both).

I don't like that guy or his "wing" of the Libertarian Party. He's not a real libertarian, he's corrupt, and he's a career politician. He's definitely no Ron or Rand Paul, not in terms of beliefs, not in terms of honesty and integrity, and not in terms of being a decent human being.

Beyond that the Libertarian Party itself is a kooky fringe party if there ever was one. Not that I have a problem with "kooky fringe" parties, I can rather partial toward such parties in general, but the average person seems to hate those sorts of parties. Once they find out how fringe and wacky the Libertarian Party is (even though Johnson is a phony libertarian) I think they will revert back to the low single digits as usual.

Aren't you a cute little Lib!

Do you listen to talk radio and talk back to it?

 

[Adre]

Johnson did not know what Aleppo is. Should a candidate for leader of the free world be better informed?

 

[xbb]

Johnson did not know what Aleppo is. Should a candidate for leader of the free world be better informed?

considering that CoffinClinton created THAT as well as LIBYA


she is disqualified

 

[Adre]

considering that CoffinClinton created THAT as well as LIBYA


she is disqualified

She's been President this whole time? Nice deflection though.

 

[patient1]

Johnson did not know what Aleppo is. Should a candidate for leader of the free world be better informed?

Sure, and he has said as much.
What I like is that he is honest enough, responsible enough and confident enough to admit it. The beginning of wisdom is knowing what it is that you don't know.

Trump would simply restate the question in his own words in such a situation.

Hillary would obfuscate.

What I find more interesting is that the New York Times is confused on the subject, as evidenced by the fact that they had to correct the story twice today.-
http://www.nytimes.com/2016/09/09/us/politics/gary-johnson-aleppo.html?_r=0

"Correction: September 8, 2016

An earlier version of this article misidentified the de facto capital of the Islamic State. It is Raqqa, in northern Syria, not Aleppo.

Correction: September 8, 2016

An earlier version of the above correction misidentified the Syrian capital as Aleppo. It is Damascus."


Come to think of it, I want both my newspapers and presidents to admit their mistakes so that they can correct them.

"#2 Always be honest and tell the truth."
"#6 Acknowledge mistakes immediately."
- Gary Johnson, SEVEN principles of GOOD government.

 

[Wrong Element]

Johnson did not know what Aleppo is. Should a candidate for leader of the free world be better informed?

The most charitable interpretation of this is that, because the run-up hadn't referenced Syria in any way, Johnson heard the question as "What should we do about a leppo?" I've made worse mistakes when asked to use my brain early in the morning.

Johnson's problem is that the whole thing can be reduced to a 10-second soundbite, which guarantees it a long life. Trump's complete ignorance of all public policy typically results in a word salad that can't be boiled down in the same way.

 

[BotanyBoy]

Johnson did not know what Aleppo is. Should a candidate for leader of the free world be better informed?

Clinton didn't know what Classified means.........should a candidate for leader of the free world be better informed?

"What is 'Aleppo'?" - Gary Johnson







DONE! LOL

Hey it could be worse, he could be a war junkie, consistent outright liar who whores his office out to the rich, unable to secure his communications and completely above any and all laws that might hold him accountable for gross negligence and corruption while holding those offices.

Oh wait that's your neoLib superhero Hillary.